What is the deal with Phil Spencer?
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Yea after closing lion head and not giving them a second chance with better leadership, was a bad look. If we dont see anything next year for Perfect Dark, Fable, Everwild, State of decay 3 and the highlights are all games Microsoft don't internally manage like Bethesda titles. Then I'm just going to be interested in Bethesda titles, and whatever Coalition make.
VF5 came out for PS3 exclusively first, and then was ported to 360 as VF5: online with added online play later. i think it was 6 months. i remember VF5 being one of the first 'big' ps3 exclusives, and no one expected a 360 version to be announced.
And after that i'm pretty sure all the versions were multiplat up until the recent VF5: E-Sports which is PS4 only.
Right; I said the same in my post.
That is certainly not the intent of claiming he has bad taste because he once said he loved working on Voodoo Vince because it was the first game he played through with his daughters, or acting like people know other stuff about him because of one deleted Mike Ybarra tweet lol
Execs are best ignored outside of their output, and from a gamer perspective Phil is pretty poor unless you are a big Gamepass fan.
Definitely this. It's the main reason why I roll my eyes when I see some people say MS should buy yet another publisher. Zenimax and ABK aren't enough? We haven't even seen consistent results and indicators of growth from most of the studios they've purchased so far. We still haven't gotten a chance to play Avowed, Starfield looks like it's struggling as if nothing changed (for the better) post-acquisition, RedFall doesn't seem that much a step up from stuff like Deathloop, most of what Psychonauts 2 became was done before the acquisition, we still don't have Hellblade 2 (or Project Mara), still nothing from State of Decay 3, etc.
I don't think just having money to throw around to buy a company means it's the best idea to buy or the target's best choice to sell. I want to see how being owned by MS actually elevates Bethesda, Ninja Theory, Obsidian etc. with final products, before feeling comfortable as a gamer with them going into another massive acquisition. Or even a medium-sized one. A small studio here or there I would probably be comfortable with, though. I think the only acquisitions we've seen so far that have bore some real fruit are Playground Games and Mojang, but I wouldn't say games like Forza Horizon 5 are well beyond in ambition, scope etc. to the games Playground were already making for MS pre-acquisition.
Fable should be in good hands, since Playground Games are on it. Tho, the rumors of dev trouble and them struggling to make the transition to that style of game have me worried. It's not like Guerrilla when they switched from KillZone to Horizon, there were still many design similarities in those two even with their different genres.
Modeling cars and designing open worlds for racing is WAAAAYYYYY different from modeling (and animating) human characters and making open world environment for mostly foot-based travel. Yes the Forza Horizon games have human NPCs and a create-a-character mode but the models there (and their animations) are crude compared to majority of actual open-world games on the market, let alone stuff like HFW.
I kind of worry sometimes why Obsidian didn't take up an interest in working with Fable, I think they could've done a lot with the IP. And instead, let Playground try their hands at a different type of racing game with maybe more storytelling going on. Something like a Wipeout/F-Zero type of game in their engine but open-world and story emphasis would've gotten A LOT of attention and hype, been a lot easier for them to transition to, and cause a lot less dev complications.
But I'm still hopeful Fable will be pretty good under their wings.
Went and did a little look-up and you're right, VF5's first console port was for PS3. It was just based on an older version tho, for some odd reason, while the 360 one was based on a more recent build that allowed online play. I guess it goes to show how dominant 360 coverage was here in the US at that time, that I remember VF5 on console as coming first to 360 when in reality that wasn't the case.
And yeah, outside of Ultimate Showdown all other VF5 versions were on both systems, just with some versions arriving on one system sooner than the other. Doesn't seem like any of them had launch parity in timing between PS and Xbox platforms.
Psychonauts 2 is not on PlayStation 5.
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Biggest con-man in gaming. Nothing but respect for the hustle. I also have mad respect for Xbox Marketing Dept under Aaron and crew. They eat Sony's lunch in the anglo speaking markets everyday despite having a much, much inferior product offering. It's what it's. They put in the work, they play the media cycle well, they execute the influencer strat to the t.... and it pays dividends. All else being equal, they take laps around the Sony boys when it comes to running the mouth grift.
You gotta respect having millions of ardent followers and paying consumers hooked on broken promises for a decade. If the man had a second life he would have made for a great evangelical preacher. Got the talent for the essence of the grift. Would be driving a lambo to his workplace everyday, owned private jet for cross-country flight.
I wouldn't have a problem with none of these guys except they want to destroy the traditional model to establish a subscription centric model that they wish and feel they can ultimately monopolize. That's were mad respect for the hustle turns into - fuck off bitch!
Not personal.
When Jim Ryan says: "We let the games do the talking"...
All I hear is; "I can't keep up with these boys... here we got the best shit see"
You gotta respect having millions of ardent followers and paying consumers hooked on broken promises for a decade. If the man had a second life he would have made for a great evangelical preacher. Got the talent for the essence of the grift. Would be driving a lambo to his workplace everyday, owned private jet for cross-country flight.
I wouldn't have a problem with none of these guys except they want to destroy the traditional model to establish a subscription centric model that they wish and feel they can ultimately monopolize. That's were mad respect for the hustle turns into - fuck off bitch!
Not personal.
When Jim Ryan says: "We let the games do the talking"...
All I hear is; "I can't keep up with these boys... here we got the best shit see"
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This is exactly what I've been saying. The company that could not manage 5 studios is now supposed to manage 30+ studios!
Such leadership. Much wow.
Ah, but it IS on PlayStation 4, and PS5 is BC with PS4, so it can in fact play Psychonauts 2, so in a way it IS on PlayStation 5!
Jokes aside, I'm actually more curious about Pentiment; in the blog post they said it's a console launch exclusive but MS only uses that for games that'll release on other (non-MS) consoles sometime afterwards. So, are they basically saying Pentiment is coming out for Switch and/or even PS, or are they going to start designating games that are for Xbox at launch and then go to PC later? Or was it a mistake?
Because they definitely didn't have a problem listing Forza Motorsport, etc. as console exclusive (as we'd expect).
It's either Switch or PC. Microsoft seems friendly with porting easy to run games to Switch.Ah, but it IS on PlayStation 4, and PS5 is BC with PS4, so it can in fact play Psychonauts 2, so in a way it IS on PlayStation 5!
Jokes aside, I'm actually more curious about Pentiment; in the blog post they said it's a console launch exclusive but MS only uses that for games that'll release on other (non-MS) consoles sometime afterwards. So, are they basically saying Pentiment is coming out for Switch and/or even PS, or are they going to start designating games that are for Xbox at launch and then go to PC later? Or was it a mistake?
Because they definitely didn't have a problem listing Forza Motorsport, etc. as console exclusive (as we'd expect).
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Why are you lying? You can play it on PS5. I was unaware that there is no native version but who cares? It's a cartoony looking AA game no some high budget prodction. The reason I didn't know there was no PS5 version is because I didn't buy it (like everyone else) nor will I ever since I didn't even finish the first game after all these years anyway. I'm not like Xbox fans that get excited of Hellblade 2 without ever having bothered to play the original game.
Also, pathetic that MS was that petty, depriving people that funded it on Kickstarter from a proper PS5 version. Well, so much for all that "when we all play, everybody wins" bullshit.
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You're arguing semantics. The game is available on PS5. What a stupid deviation of topic.
It's available on PlayStation 4. If we're doing list wars it needs to be accurate. There is no PlayStation 5 build of this game, not a thing.
Oh you guys most definitely care which is exactly why you're pressing it. Who do you think you're fooling lol?
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