Xbox is on track to knock Sony PlayStation down to third place for the first time in history

Shmunter

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Read the thread. Jez is full of it about Xbox being ahead of Playstation here.
I don’t need to verify Jiz numbers. MS revenue should be exploding after the acquisition, common sense. But I’m happy to look at the supporting info proving otherwise if you can assist..
 

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I don’t need to verify Jiz numbers. MS revenue should be exploding after the acquisition, common sense. But I’m happy to look at the supporting info proving otherwise if you can assist..
I'll have to find them, but there were a lot of charts that came out in court showing that MS would still be behind PlayStation even with the deal. It'll go up for sure, but it isn't quite enough to leapfrog PlayStation like this shill is suggesting nor is it the doomsday scenario that he's trying to paint for PlayStation.
 

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It's also pretty funny how the Resetera thread for this just had blatant shilling for Xbox and people talking about how 'giddy' they were to hear this and how 'we all win' until it was debunked and the thread was locked. Such a shame you can't directly or even indirectly call out the shills on there without being banned.
 

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Profit is not the same as revenue.

They didn't just get Activision and all their revenue, they got all their expenses. MS is the one footing the bill for any of their next projects. That, coupled with GP day one releases, won't be profitable. Jezz, as always, is cooking numbers to make it look impressive.
This is revenue not profits.

What profits are there after throwing 70 billion for ABK?

I’d say a lot of money coming in as Stated in the article. To clarify this is across all platforms they put this on. They don’t care about Xbox the real money maker is the sales from the software across all supported platforms like windows ps5 etc. Despite backlash the recent cod also made a ton of money despite bad reviews and actibliz has Many different streams of revenue from f2p titles like overwatch Diablo etc. They’ve done well financially.
 
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Despite backlash the recent cod also made a ton of money despite bad reviews
25% lower year on year in the UK (boxed), with digital adoption effectively the same as last year i.e. it's not going to be made up by downloads. Still a lot of money coming off a high base, but now the remaining 75% of users are eating trash, and who knows if they'll come back for a second helping next year.

Next year's title will be the truest indicator of how far the franchise has declined.
 
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I'll have to find them, but there were a lot of charts that came out in court showing that MS would still be behind PlayStation even with the deal. It'll go up for sure, but it isn't quite enough to leapfrog PlayStation like this shill is suggesting nor is it the doomsday scenario that he's trying to paint for PlayStation.
That I’d like to see because it’s difficult to imagine Xbox + zenimax + Activision/Blizzrd to be smaller that Sony. But then I’m completely relying on assumption.
 

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That I’d like to see because it’s difficult to imagine Xbox + zenimax + Activision/Blizzrd to be smaller that Sony. But then I’m completely relying on assumption.

Jez has only shown software revenue. Even that has been double counted.

With Hardware revenue included Zenimax and ABK still don’t help dethrone Sony.
 
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25% lower year on year in the UK (boxed), with digital adoption effectively the same as last year i.e. it's not going to be made up by downloads. Still a lot of money coming off a high base, but now the remaining 75% of users are eating trash, and who knows if they'll come back for a second helping next year.

Next year's title will be the truest indicator of how far the franchise has declined.

Honestly good riddance lol. Maybe they’ll make an innovative idea.
 

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That I’d like to see because it’s difficult to imagine Xbox + zenimax + Activision/Blizzrd to be smaller that Sony. But then I’m completely relying on assumption.
This is the first website I could find that actually mentions the numbers and isn't biased towards MS. I'm not digging through all of the MS propaganda again, lol.

 
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With combined Activision and Xbox revenues, Sony PlayStation may be looking at a third-place spot behind Microsoft for the first time.



https://www.windowscentral.com/gami...-to-third-place-for-the-first-time-in-history



These numbers don't match with the real ones posted by the companies for H1 2023 in their fiscal reports. They are:
  • Sony: $13.75B (only SIE, not counting stuff in other divisions as Lasengle, Aniplex or Crunchyroll GameS)
  • Tencent $13.16B
  • MS + ABK: $11.69B
MS continues 3rd, now Sony became top 1

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At this point, we should mute anyone who is known as spreading misinformation once it gets debunked and they don't own up to it or make a correction. It's not worth anyone's time to give them a voice.
 

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I'm site it was pointed out but I'm not reading all the responses "they didn't include hardware revenue" tht would still have Sony owning all of them and making more revenue.
 

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A reminder that Microsoft is forecasting a DECLINE in the combined Xbox and ABK biz. They will do worse together than separately, with Xbox dragging down everyone else around them.


That'll decline even further when they add COD to GP or try to make games exclusive, and mismanage studios.
That is the norm do all merges.

They include duplicated revenue report too… for example if Activision reports direct revenue from the sale then it includes platform royalties that MS post int their results as revenue too… so that is just an example of revenue being posted in both and with the merge that won’t happen anymore.

The whole ideia merge A + B = A + B revenue is so flawed and dumb that I have no ideia why that guy wrote an article about it.

There are several factors in a merge that won’t allow these dumb takes.
 

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Whole thread is struggling to cop pleas.

So you like fake, false, made up bullshit to go along unchecked and not corrected?

If that’s the case then the problem is you and not that people are looking for real, accurate information.

The fuck.

we can't stand MS organic growth and success.

The same goes for you.

You people can’t be this robotic and not see the problem with the reporting.