Do you feel Ocarina of time is basically a new IP If you remove Link since it has very little references to the 2D Zelda's?
Do you feel Super Mario 64 is basically a new IP if you remove Mario since it has very little references to the 2D Mario games?
how come RE4 and even RE7 gets all this it should of been a new IP but other games franchises that had huge changes to them don't?
I don't see anybody saying Metroid Prime was basically a new IP and that wasn't made by the original creator of the series (RIP Gunpei Yokoi)
Yes maybe you can say RE4 was a shift to open up the audience Resident Evil could sell too by ditching fixed camera and focusing less on puzzles but it still very much feels in many ways a natural evolution of Resident Evil just in a different perspective.
Still has tank controls and Limits player abilities by not allowing you to aim while moving or move while shooting so you have to make tactical choices on when you need to stop and make your attacks!
Now one point you guys who say RE4 isn't Resident Evil is that it's story is very clearly set as a side story (Even tho it originally wasn't at first.) to the rest of the games but that could be attributed to Mikami deciding to write the story on his own which was a first for the Resident Evil series (This was also the first story he wrote for a video game ever, and Killer 7 is the only other one I know of.) and even criticized it himself looking back at it. The development hell RE4 went thru with all it's scrapped versions probably didn't help as well!
Besides that I don't really get where all this RE4 isn't Resident Evil when it followed a lot of trends previous games setup.
Salazar wouldn't be out of place with all the other characters in code veronica, Saddler wouldn't be out of place with that leech dude in RE0.
oh I greatly, greatly disagree.
The changes from RE4 are enough that I feel its valid it should have probably been a subtitle, like new entry that isn't a continuation. Resident Evil Redemption, Resident Evil DEAD Series, Resident Evil Kiwami lol Enough was changed that is simply needed that as its waaaay to far removed from the original concept.
At some point, the only thing that was from the past Resident Evil titles was the fucking name and that you saw someone's back called Leon, everything else was gone.
Less puzzles, you buy weapons and ammo, no more back tracking, no more zombies lol If you called this a new IP, no one in 2004 was going to fucking argue this was coping Resident Evil. Thats like saying Max Payne 3 is a ripe off of Resident Evil, of course thats funny..but its funny because THEY HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON...until RE4, 5 and 6 annnnd now we can say they are in common and can be compared.
So RE4 starts all of that. Its great action game, but enough was lacking that I feel that it maybe should have never been a mainline entry and let it be its own thing. They already did with Outbreak mind you, Revelations, its clear they fucking understand if its different enough, to subtitle it, so we can't even pretend that wasn't a thing at Capcom. They did that with Mega Man. waaaay too different then the last? Ok...its now Mega Man X. Ohhh waaay too different then the 2D ones? Ok...its now Mega Man Legends.
I'm not sure how one can pretend that can't apply to RE4,5 and 6 that are simply to far removed from the core concepts.
As for Super Mario or Zelda, their changes are not so extreme they damn near change genres lol
" natural evolution of Resident Evil just in a different perspective." lol Just stop buddy. I'd 100% agree with you IF THAT was the only thing changed.
None of us give a shit that its over the shoulder, we care that its removed the core elements of Resident evil and slapped its name on it.
Its not like we all hate RE2 remake or something. We like that its actually about zombies, limited ammo, health, puzzles, back tracking etc. Perspective had nothing to do with the issues people had with RE4,5 and 6