Famitsu] Interview with Jim Ryan: Importance of Japanese market and games, Spider-Man 2 on PS5, PSVR2, PC ports 2-3 years after release

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That tracks.
Joke is on them, I hate Xbox because it's a terrible product.

I'm not going to lie tho, these Xbots are detestable but I guess it comes from the fact that only deranged people like that would still hang on to the Xbox. There is hardly any excuse for someone to be a fan of Xbox, hating PlayStation is all they have left to unite them at this point.
 

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That tracks.

What I find interesting is the word "detest". They hate a fanbase simply because they actually have standards and great games to play, which is what gaming should be all about. Their mentality is akin to that of Chimpanzees and Bonobos, which are super territorial and protective of their own, with the main difference being that Chimpanzees and Bonobos have a functional brain.
 

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Delaying PC ports by up to 3 years(!) only limits the sales potential of the port. The best quality PC ports will be developed in-house by the teams themselves as much as possible. Dropping a finished game on a port team like Nixxes will never get the best results. So if Playstation is going to get good at PC ports, they will be developed in tandem with the console version, and finished around the same time. Why at that point would Sony sit on product ready to sell?
 

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Delaying PC ports by up to 3 years(!) only limits the sales potential of the port. The best quality PC ports will be developed in-house by the teams themselves as much as possible. Dropping a finished game on a port team like Nixxes will never get the best results. So if Playstation is going to get good at PC ports, they will be developed in tandem with the console version, and finished around the same time. Why at that point would Sony sit on product ready to sell?
Because they're not complete idiots. Selling day one on PC would reduce the desirability of their console ecosystem on which they get a 30% cut of all 3rd party sales, and 100% of their own titles sales. On PC they have to lose out on 30% of those first party sales and they get nothing for 3rd party sales.
 

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Because they're not complete idiots. Selling day one on PC would reduce the desirability of their console ecosystem on which they get a 30% cut of all 3rd party sales, and 100% of their own titles sales. On PC they have to lose out on 30% of those first party sales and they get nothing for 3rd party sales.
There's no reason to believe this.
 

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Delaying PC ports by up to 3 years(!) only limits the sales potential of the port. The best quality PC ports will be developed in-house by the teams themselves as much as possible. Dropping a finished game on a port team like Nixxes will never get the best results. So if Playstation is going to get good at PC ports, they will be developed in tandem with the console version, and finished around the same time. Why at that point would Sony sit on product ready to sell?
Weird, considering the ports from Nixxes have been great and the in-house ports have had more issues.

EDIT: On top of this, Nixxes is a team of people who SPECIALIZE in PC ports. Lots of experience with PC hardware. A lot of the devs in First Party don't really have that experience and are used to developing for fixed hardware. That also allows them to get insanely good performance out of the system they're using since they cater to it and plan for it exclusively.

Staggering their PC ports is going to allow for the best game for both user bases; the PS5 gamers will get a game made to cater solely to their hardware and its specific strengths, while the team at Nixxes has time to find ways to best translate those titles to the PC, get them running on a wide range of hardware, and make sure they launch as clean as possible.
 
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That day 1 PC ports reduce the desirability of Playstation. It doesn't at all.
lol ok, believe what you want. All I know is I'm a PC gamer that bought a playstation because it had a timed exclusive for FF7 Remake, but what do I know.
 

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This isn't true at all. The difference between a PC and a Playstation has never been smaller.
Which PC?
What build specifically?
Are there any differences between a GTX 1080 and a 6900XT? Between an Intel I9 and a Ryzen 3?
How about Mechanical HDDs, SATA SSDs, and M.2s, are there any differences there that would need to be accounted for?
"PC" is a very nebulous term, man. The differences between two PCs alone can be quite hefty. There's less difference in overall formatting and architecture, but in terms of performance variables that they'd have to try to account for and design around?
Yeah, huge differences.
 
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I believe they should only work with previous generation games on PC near the release of sequel/spin-off on PS5.
That is what makes more business sense.

For exemple.

Let's say they announce TLOU3 exclusive to PS5 to release in Holiday 2024.
PC TLOU2 port should release around mid of year in 2024 to hype up people before TLOU3 on PS5.
It is really good marketing and they did with some games already... Horizon, GoW, Niche-man, etc.

When I said previous generation I mean work with PC ports of PS4 games for now and after some years or even when we are near PS6 start to work on PC ports of PS5 games.

PCMR won't bother because they build top end PC to play old games anyway.

This is what I've been saying as well. Console > intermittent timed subscription availability > PC for previous installment > Console for next installment. The last two being within a year of each other.

And when they do the PC version, of course add the expected new features, any expansion content that was released on console prior, and let console owners upgrade to any of the QoL features the PC version adds (or those that can be done on console; if the PC version has a 120 FPS mode with 8K resolution obviously the console won't be able to do that) for a small upgrade fee.

Some of the live-service/GaaS titles though will likely be Day 1 between console & PC. TLOU Factions 2, for example, might end up being one of those titles. Just make sure cross-play is an option (not forced) and there are still leaderboards for console & PC separately. I dunno what they'll be able to do about cheaters on PC but they'll have to do something.

the era post on this is hilarious. he truly is the devil to them bc he is a businessman first and foremost. This is a man who gets the job done

Good. They have such an irrational hate for Jim Ryan but an equally irrational love for Phil Spencer, when the former is clearly doing their job magnitudes better than the latter.

MS's 2015 decision to do Day 1 for all 1P games on PC is one of the biggest reasons console sales (and even subscription rates on console) declined over the years and the Xbox brand having an identity crisis that'll take years for Microsoft to course-correct. Sony has no reason to follow a strategy that ultimately doesn't work for a console gaming division that actually needs to be self-sufficient in earning its own keep through revenue, something Xbox has never needed to justify because of the massive revenue Microsoft's actual money makers bring in.

Notice the same people complaining on Reset are always quiet when the question of Nintendo being "pro-consumer" and bringing their games to PC comes up. All of the sudden the excuses against such a decision come flying out, as if most of them aren't applicable to Sony for some weird reason.
 
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People buy Playstation (and consoles in general) because PCs are a pain in the ass. Playstation is the best, easiest, and most cost effective way to get into AAA gaming.
You aren't wrong. But there are too many pc players out there
 

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Joke is on them, I hate Xbox because it's a terrible product.

I'm not going to lie tho, these Xbots are detestable but I guess it comes from the fact that only deranged people like that would still hang on to the Xbox. There is hardly any excuse for someone to be a fan of Xbox, hating PlayStation is all they have left to unite them at this point.
Ok, so which one of you's sock account is this to make xbox fans look insane?