I'd bet that the reason is this combined with the recently too expensive prices.Is that not due the mining hype ending?
I'd bet that the reason is this combined with the recently too expensive prices.Is that not due the mining hype ending?
Oh, if you say that in some places, people will come with pitchforks for you.
It's really bizarre how some pc players really like to pretend you can get a console like experience on PC that will last the whole generation for the price of a console.
During the ps4/xbo generation it was easy to do that. If we had dennard scaling in pc parts still we would be at the point where we could do it today, but again amd and nvidia are greedy as fuck.You could never get an experience that is comparable to that of consoles on a similar budget if you consider the whole rig, even before all the mining stuff.
When the gen was 4 or 5 years old? Sure.During the ps4/xbo generation it was easy to do that. If we had dennard scaling in pc parts still we would be at the point where we could do it today, but again amd and nvidia are greedy as fuck.
Right, time goes forward...When the gen was 4 or 5 years old? Sure.
I always say this: PCs at console specs are not worth it. You go higher or buy a console. When a game is demanding on console, the PC with same specs will eat a brown shit.Right, time goes forward...
*edit* 6700xt is $300 on ebay right now, a 3700x is $100. You can build a comparable system specwise right now for about 6-700 from used parts.
Right, time goes forward...
*edit* 6700xt is $300 on ebay right now, a 3700x is $100. You can build a comparable system specwise right now for about 6-700 from used parts.
I would not buy a used SSD, but to each his own.Right, time goes forward...
*edit* 6700xt is $300 on ebay right now, a 3700x is $100. You can build a comparable system specwise right now for about 6-700 from used parts.
I just thought about it. He assumes that Ram+PSU+MB+case +Windows= $200600 or 700 is not 500
Easily.I just thought about it. He assumes that Ram+PSU+MB+case +Windows= $200
600 or 700 is not 500
Problem?The problem is that the people who are willing to put $1000s+ per year into their hobby is a small minority and the ecosystem can't sustain itself off just those people. So we need low end and budget pc parts to get people who are willing to spend $600-1000 to buy an experience that is comparable to or slightly better than a console specwise just so they can stream their fortnite matches to their 5 follower twitch streams.
And HDD or SsdI just thought about it. He assumes that Ram+PSU+MB+case +Windows= $200
1tb gen 3 m.2 ssd $50 on amazon. This is just with 1 minute of searching. If I really wanted to go hardcore I could go looking on alibaba and get even better deals. I mean it's not that serious... pc parts get cheaper with time. It's inevitable.And HDD or Ssd
1tb gen 3 m.2 ssd $50 on amazon. This is just with 1 minute of searching. If I really wanted to go hardcore I could go looking on alibaba and get even better deals. I mean it's not that serious... pc parts get cheaper with time. It's inevitable.
No games even use the full power of the ps5 ssd. And I'd argue that "comparable" does not mean exactly equal. Windows/directx in itself will mean the pc will need ~10% better specs to match performance in equally optimized games. The point is, people aren't really going to notice a 3-4s load time vs 1-2s in ps5, and the stuff that truly leverages p5 i/o will be exclusive to ps5 anyway.Used or slow speed SSD compared to the one in the PS5. A comparable M2 SSD from not knock off brands starts at 70 to 80.
Edit: dollars is not my currency
No games even use the full power of the ps5 ssd. And I'd argue that "comparable" does not mean exactly equal. Windows/directx in itself will mean the pc will need ~10% better specs to match performance in equally optimized games. The point is, people aren't really going to notice a 3-4s load time vs 1-2s in ps5, and the stuff that truly leverages p5 i/o will be exclusive to ps5 anyway.
The point isn't to say "haha my $600-700 pc can beat your $500 console" the point is to say "how much would a person need to spend to get a pc with roughly equivalent specs/performance to a ps5". Because idk if you've noticed but a lot of kids want pcs so they can have their own little youtube/twitch streams.
Wait, people say that? That's ridiculous, unless the games stagnate and don't need higher/better components by gen's end. But I think we're past that era, if some of the latest games PC requirements are to go by.Oh, if you say that in some places, people will come with pitchforks for you.
It's really bizarre how some pc players really like to pretend you can get a console like experience on PC that will last the whole generation for the price of a console.
not at all, I even bolded and highlighted my previous post for you. ICYMI:Yes, comparable doesn't mean equal. But the argument was that you can get a comparable PC to a console for a similar price, no? Well, you can't. That's the crux of the problem. From a value standpoint, the PS5 and Series X are better than any PC you can build.
There is no need to continue arguing against a PCMR strawman when I didn't even bring it up.So we need low end and budget pc parts to get people who are willing to spend $600-1000 to buy an experience that is comparable to or slightly better than a console specwise
During the ps4/xbo generation it was easy to do that. If we had dennard scaling in pc parts still we would be at the point where we could do it today, but again amd and nvidia are greedy as fuck.
When the gen was 4 or 5 years old? Sure.
There is no need to continue arguing against a PCMR strawman when I didn't even bring it up.