once again, didn't even remember that this game was releasing, they have literally zero advertisement in my spaces apparently. I actually completely forgot when it was coming out, not that I was too keen on getting it, but I may sometime later.
Another PC port that'll flop? Final Fantasy 16 debuts on Steam with 1470 player count
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gotta say, its definitely Sony/Square's fault, I didn't see a singular peep about release date, trailers, or anything for it, all I remember is hearing it would be coming to PC, but I never saw ANYTHING related to the actual release, and others seem to echo my words.
there was a fucking what
this is what I mean! I didn't even know this either and I'm usually pretty on top of releases!
We have to look much deeper into that, it only took that much time bc square enix made tetsuya nomura left the project to direct kh3 and ff7r, so hajime tabata reworked the game into ff15 instead of ff versus 13... by comparing the footage of versus XIII with XV we can see how much it was reworked.
It doesnt mean that they need to waste 10 years to make an action game, so in order to keep the series alive they just need to keep the real time action and focus on having a smoother development, if anything, just go back at having more sci-fi themes, seeing that those usually sell more than the classic medieval ones like IX and XVI
TBF it literally just came out. I just checked and it's up to 12.2K. Hasn't hit peak hours yet either, and probably won't hit its peak until late Thursday/Friday I guess?
Even so, I'm not expecting it to do ER, BG3 or BMW numbers. I think it'll probably peak around 40K-50K. But as BMW's shown, different regions have their peaks at different times of the day, so even peak CCU won't be fully indicative of XVI's PC performance.
For that we'll have to rely on sales figures or at least solid sales estimates.
Well, Xbox sure as shit won't help. But I think the actual answer is pretty simple.
1: Prioritize Nintendo for more FF games; the more Day 1, the better. This is particularly important for Japan & parts of Asia, where Switch is as big if not bigger (much bigger in case of Japan) player than PlayStation is.
However, this will probably necessitate a dual-pronged approach from SE with FF games, where some will be the massive ambitious VII Rebirth-type releases (probably not prioritizing Switch 2 for Day 1), and others the more technically tamer installments (prioritizing Switch 2 Day 1).
2: Centralize a set of core gameplay mechanics shared across entries. I think the days of totally reinventing game systems from top to bottom has worn out its welcome for IP like Final Fantasy. Characters and stories can still be relatively self-contained (perhaps with stronger tie-in links to other entries tho wouldn't hurt), but SE need to decide on what core design principals and game systems will define mainline FF games as a whole, and stick with them from entry to entry.
I feel this is one thing that has benefited IP like Persona, and Final Fantasy needs to take a cue on that note.
3: Prioritize PC for more Day 1 support. While it sucks to say, chances are sticking with PlayStation launch exclusivity may not be worth it as much in the long run for either SE or SIE. So if that means ensuring PC gets Day 1 support for new mainline releases, and SE feels that's for the best, then it's their call to make ultimately.
Even so, I'm not expecting it to do ER, BG3 or BMW numbers. I think it'll probably peak around 40K-50K. But as BMW's shown, different regions have their peaks at different times of the day, so even peak CCU won't be fully indicative of XVI's PC performance.
For that we'll have to rely on sales figures or at least solid sales estimates.
Well, Xbox sure as shit won't help. But I think the actual answer is pretty simple.
1: Prioritize Nintendo for more FF games; the more Day 1, the better. This is particularly important for Japan & parts of Asia, where Switch is as big if not bigger (much bigger in case of Japan) player than PlayStation is.
However, this will probably necessitate a dual-pronged approach from SE with FF games, where some will be the massive ambitious VII Rebirth-type releases (probably not prioritizing Switch 2 for Day 1), and others the more technically tamer installments (prioritizing Switch 2 Day 1).
2: Centralize a set of core gameplay mechanics shared across entries. I think the days of totally reinventing game systems from top to bottom has worn out its welcome for IP like Final Fantasy. Characters and stories can still be relatively self-contained (perhaps with stronger tie-in links to other entries tho wouldn't hurt), but SE need to decide on what core design principals and game systems will define mainline FF games as a whole, and stick with them from entry to entry.
I feel this is one thing that has benefited IP like Persona, and Final Fantasy needs to take a cue on that note.
3: Prioritize PC for more Day 1 support. While it sucks to say, chances are sticking with PlayStation launch exclusivity may not be worth it as much in the long run for either SE or SIE. So if that means ensuring PC gets Day 1 support for new mainline releases, and SE feels that's for the best, then it's their call to make ultimately.
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I think persona and Yakuza are more popular on PC than FF. FF really lost its mojo and the only thing people have expectations is their VII trilogy. They should stop releasing new games and just dedicate to remakes.
VI should be next. One episode for world of ruin and other for world of balance.
VI should be next. One episode for world of ruin and other for world of balance.
Replicant sold very well aswell. It will probably sell even more when the switch port drops eventually. (TGS?
)The now airing anime probably boosted Automatas sales aswell.
Kinda funny, that we are living in a reality, where NieR outsells newly released final fantasy games, which are actively trying to copy It for some reason.
It's already beaten FF7R in CCU, so I think this thread was posted a bit hastily.
on top of a hastily-made post, there was no pre-load for the game on Steam. (publisher's fault)
It's already beaten FF7R in CCU, so I think this thread was posted a bit hastily.
Yeah it took me 20 minutes to download it on a Gigabit connection, not to mention it dropped earlier than usual (12PM EST) and like you said no preload. It's running pretty well too, I'm just glad I don't have to deal with that horrendous upscaling on PS5 anymore, game looked terrible in Performance mode
150 gb download means that people needs some hours to download the game.
Seems like OP just wanted to create some chaos and didn't care about anything else.
They have 3 choices:
-They either go all in on being completely multiplatfrom on all platforms day 1 forgoing all support and financing from Sony, who apparently has helped them quite a bit this gen. That means longer dev time which means higher budget and could spread their teams too thin with a lack of quality control.
-Double Down on being a Sony exclusive company for AAA projects. Take advantage of the fact that sony is the defacto high end market leader and ask for more funding or support for projects. One platform allows the team to focus more on the gameplay rather than different specs. Budget might be cheaper too.
-Keep doing what they are doing. Sign exclusivity deals with Sony and Nintendo because it guarantees a certain degree of stability for project budgets. Port to steam/xbox later for additional revenue/gamepass bag.
I think whats realistically best for them is a combination of the last Two points. Go to Sony and Nintendo ask for more funding for exclusivity and focus on quality over quantity. Sony is too established as the market leader and are willing to help fund your projects? Why would you change that? Then Nintendo is also willing to do the same? Just stay the course but ask for more funding IMO.
Yeah, that's actually higher than FFVII Remake Intergrade... But still quite low overall considering the production standard of the game.
Most FF games on Steam have not sold over 1 million according to Steamspy.
The only ones that have broken 1 million are:
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIV
Final Fantasy XV
And the only one to break 2 million is XIV
I truly hope this forum doesn't take this to mean Square is foolish for porting FF games to Steam, as if they'd put I, II, III, III (3D), IV, IV (3D), IV: The After Years, V, VI, VII, VII Remake, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XI, XII, XIII, XIII-2, LR: XIII, XIV, XV, XVI, World of FF, Type-0, and Crisis Core on the platform over the course of over 10 years if they weren't satisfied with these numbers on the platform
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It's already beaten FF7R in CCU, so I think this thread was posted a bit hastily.
Lots of threads here are posted hastily. It's mainly wishful thinking. All part of the war.