Another PC port that'll flop? Final Fantasy 16 debuts on Steam with 1470 player count
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This is exactly why i am getting away from PC Gaming.
It is a complete sensual overload! Everyone always wants to multi-task anything, like a social media or Internet addict!
I rather sit down on my PlayStation when i want to play, or just don't, instead of using a game as weird background noise.
Yep said it for years. PC gamers love niche genres like RTS, sims, survival, and also live service games. But AAA dont tend to do that well outside of Soulslike, CD Projekt Red, and certain RPG franchises. AFAIK even sports games generally don't sell that well.
On top of that PC gamers are more patient than console gamers and love a sale.
“But it didn’t release day 1 on PC”
Neither did Final Fantasy 15, it came out 2 years later….
Yeah, let's just forget about all the games that does well on PC. Persona, Yakuza, Granblue Fantasy, fighting games like Street Fighter, Dragon Ball, Resident Evil, Dragon Quest, FPS games, all the different indie games that blows up on PC.
But sure, a delayed port of a polarizing Final Fantasy games negates all the other successes.
How much are the sales for Yakuza and Persona, dragon quest etc sales? Ive never seen official numbers.
Final Fantasy 15 was ported to PC after 2 years. Scored worse than Final Fantasy 16 and doesnt have traditional combat.
Why did that sell better than this? Price point? Sales? Lack of PS exclusive hate spreading to make it seem like a worse game?
Some games sell well, some games dont. Same as consoles.
One thing is for certain, the narration that games have to be Multiplatform to survive and PS needs PC ports to keep its studios going is absolute nonsense made up by non console fans and xbox fans.
Neither need each other. Sometimes ports helps. And for Sony for sure, it doesnt help much, especially with the fanbase. Nintendo fans would be acting the same
You have to interview the companies like Sega, Square, Bandai etc. about why they are pushing for more PC day 1 support if PC is so unneccssary for them.
No1 is saying its so unnecessary. Its just the whole console or platform exclusives cant survive talk is overblown clearly.
Theres a reason Nintendo, Rockstar, Playstation and other studios like even Valve have timed or complete exclusives. And why some of the biggest sellers have been exclusive or timed exclusives
You are right but just a point here.
Rockstar does the best business to sell games in the market.
They release first on consoles, after a long period do a enhancement and release on PC, after another long period they do another enhancement to new consoles, after another longer period they do portable / mobile ports, etc.
They are master class to make consumers double, triple and why not quad dip.
But they need all platforms to make it works.
Consoles, new consoles, PC, Portables, mobiles, etc are all needed to reach their goals.
Ohhhh I almost forget… they added streaming services in the pack… GTA up to IV were launched to Netflix
They basically maximize all sales in all platforms.
Anything Rockstar show us is that all platforms see important but PC (or others platforms) and Subscriptions day one are really bad business.
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You are right but just a point here.
Rockstar does the best business to sell games in the market.
They release first on consoles, after a long period do a enhancement and release on PC, after another long period they do another enhancement to new consoles, after another longer period they do portable / mobile ports, etc.
They are master class to make consumers double, triple and why not quad dip.
But they need all platforms to make it works.
Consoles, new consoles, PC, Portables, mobiles, etc are all needed to reach their goals.
Ohhhh I almost forget… they added streaming services in the pack… GTA up to IV were launched to Netflix
They basically maximize all sales in all platforms.
Anything Rockstar show us is that all platforms see important but PC (or others platforms) and Subscriptions day one are really bad business.
Yes they are the best at doing that it seems. Theres remasters might not be the best quality though, just like Nintendo at times or fair prices. But yeah sales wise and tactics, there possibly the best at it
I'm looking for news sources for specific game sales on PC only and it's a little difficult, but I found these:
Persona 4
Persona 4 Golden for PC Sells Over 1 Million Copies on Steam - Persona Central
Atlus West has announced that Persona 4 Golden has sold over 1 million copies on Steam since its release last year in June 2020.
personacentral.com
Steamspy stats:
Persona 4 Golden: 1,000,000...2,000,000
Persona 5 Royal: 1,000,000...2,000,000
Persona 3 Portable: 100,000...200,000
Persona 3 Reload: 500,000...1,000,000
Persona 4 Arena: 200,000...500,000
Persona 5 Strikers: 500,000...1,000,000
Persona 5 Tactica: 50,000...100,000
Yakuza 0: 1,000,000...2,000,000
Yakuza Kiwami: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza Kiwami 2: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza 3: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza 4: 200,000...500,000
Yakuza 5: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza 6: 200,000...500,000
Yakuza: Like A Dragon: 500,000...1,000,000
Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth: 500,000...1,000,000
Like A Dragon: Gaiden: 200,000...500,000
Like A Dragon: Ishin: 100,000...200,000
Note that this is for Steam only, and most of these are also on GoG
I'm looking for news sources for specific game sales on PC only and it's a little difficult, but I found these:
Persona 4
Yakuza:Persona 4 Golden for PC Sells Over 1 Million Copies on Steam - Persona Central
Atlus West has announced that Persona 4 Golden has sold over 1 million copies on Steam since its release last year in June 2020.
Steamspy stats:
Persona 4 Golden: 1,000,000...2,000,000
Persona 5 Royal: 1,000,000...2,000,000
Persona 3 Portable: 100,000...200,000
Persona 3 Reload: 500,000...1,000,000
Persona 4 Arena: 200,000...500,000
Persona 5 Strikers: 500,000...1,000,000
Persona 5 Tactica: 50,000...100,000
Yakuza 0: 1,000,000...2,000,000
Yakuza Kiwami: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza Kiwami 2: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza 3: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza 4: 200,000...500,000
Yakuza 5: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza 6: 200,000...500,000
Yakuza: Like A Dragon: 500,000...1,000,000
Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth: 500,000...1,000,000
Like A Dragon: Gaiden: 200,000...500,000
Like A Dragon: Ishin: 100,000...200,000
Note that this is for Steam only, and most of these are also on GoG
Decent numbers for them especially the older ones because so much cheaper to make.
Im guessing alot of those arent day 1 releases on PC and they are good enough numbers. Persona 4, Persona5, Yakuza’s 0-6 etc.
Alot arent even worldwide release for alot of those on Playstation. They were in Japan only.
That doesnt mean Persona 6 won’t sell more than all of those day 1, but just that games that are wanted by that audience will come for it. FF16 and some others just arent it for that particular fanbase.
Some games need Multiplatform to survive to start and alot don’t in my opinion. Platform or console exclusives, timed exclusives can survive more than ever if done right too.
I didnt, not buy Rise of the Tomb Raider, Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive, Disco Elysium. because they didnt come day 1 on PS. I double dipped in some of those, which is alot better for the studio and developers etc
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Yeahhhhhh i'm not gonna lie to you. I have no idea where you got the idea that a PC Gamer is someone who isn't a gamer and is lonely/depressed. That very idea doesn't make any sense, it can even apply to console players.
I don't know about you but when I play games on my PC, i'm playing the game, at the most I'm streaming it to a friend on discord, none of that weird multi-tasking you came up with. Someone only does that when they are grinding something monotonous or they're in queue. No one is gaming because it's "the cool thing to do," they would quit if they weren't having fun. The idea that someone is uncool if they don't play games is stupid and acting like many online PC players are practically forced to play games to be "cool" is also stupid.
PC Gamers are not strictly on GAAS and the weird statement of "Yeah i could play a online-videogame, because everyone does it, so i should too..." doesn't make any sense because what is the point of playing something you don't enjoy? Single-player games do wonders on PC, it's cope to act like they don't.
Also, in this very thread, there seems to be a lot of "exceptions" as to what does great on PC, GAAS do great on all platforms because they are typically free-to-play and are community driven.
Weird how y'all call Cyberpunk and Elden Ring "exceptions" when other games like them and others that aren't GAAS sell all the time.
Just a point here…I'm looking for news sources for specific game sales on PC only and it's a little difficult, but I found these:
Persona 4
Yakuza:Persona 4 Golden for PC Sells Over 1 Million Copies on Steam - Persona Central
Atlus West has announced that Persona 4 Golden has sold over 1 million copies on Steam since its release last year in June 2020.
Steamspy stats:
Persona 4 Golden: 1,000,000...2,000,000
Persona 5 Royal: 1,000,000...2,000,000
Persona 3 Portable: 100,000...200,000
Persona 3 Reload: 500,000...1,000,000
Persona 4 Arena: 200,000...500,000
Persona 5 Strikers: 500,000...1,000,000
Persona 5 Tactica: 50,000...100,000
Yakuza 0: 1,000,000...2,000,000
Yakuza Kiwami: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza Kiwami 2: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza 3: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza 4: 200,000...500,000
Yakuza 5: 500,000...1,000,000
Yakuza 6: 200,000...500,000
Yakuza: Like A Dragon: 500,000...1,000,000
Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth: 500,000...1,000,000
Like A Dragon: Gaiden: 200,000...500,000
Like A Dragon: Ishin: 100,000...200,000
Note that this is for Steam only, and most of these are also on GoG
Steamspy is very unreliable in terms of sales after 2018.
I doubt these titles sold these numbers.
PC police force is making a lot of excuses rn. I want to see how FF7 Rebirth performs on PC compared to the Ps5 after all the talk about Rebirth this year and it's "poor sales".
Remake had 13k top on steamdb. But it was on epic before that... doubt it had more players there.
Rebirth will flop
I'm not forgetting anything you plum, I'm talking in general.
And do you have the numbers for these colossal Granblue Fantasy and Street Fighter 6 PC sales?