Apple Vision Pro Review Thread and |OT|. Releases in the US on 2/2. Has sold 200,000. |UP| Has cut sales forecasts.

[JAHGamer]

Maybe this is true! I even kinda hope it's true. But I think Apple should either be doing pre-release grade devkits like a console to build out some ecosystem of software support, or coming in more like $1500, prosumer level cost to reach a bigger audience early. Going with a $3500 "Pro" model for XR professionals that don't exist yet kinda tells the tale. It's not that dissimilar from how Google rolled out the insanely overpriced, Google Glass. The main differences having to do with Apple's established niche in premium consumer electronics.

Another thing I saw today is that LG has achieved a breakthrough in transparent OLED displays. So Apple's bizarre 'solution' of displaying an externally-facing 3D scan of your face to other people might be a big miscalculation.

I’ve looked through LG’s new transparent OLED TV and seen something special

How quickly would you get bored of the see-through novelty?

www.theverge.com

Google doesn't have anywhere near the consumer pull that Apple does, the Pixel is great but niche and Chromebooks are only used by schools and businesses. Apple can pivot to the new transparent OLEDs with the next model if need be, and for something as simple as seeing eyes better, it's really not a big deal and definitely not a "miscalculation". I agree that they could've rolled it out better, but let's just wait and see, it's way too soon to speculate about a product that doesn't exist yet and that is the first of it's kind. Like when Steve Ballmer said the iPhone was DOA because it didn't have a physical keyboard. No one knows how things will pan out.

I don't own a Windows laptop, but there's no way an iMac is worth the ridiculous premium over a desktop PC. And a M3 chip MacBook Pro with 8GB RAM is £1,700. I'm not sure how that's taking you further than a £1,700 laptop in real- life use.

You're obviously a big apple fan, but surely you don't think apple tax is a myth?

Has a stand been announced or this thing? I'm betting on $500 for a non-rechargeable stand, maybe $1200 if it charges lol.

Umm...the M2 Mac Mini is regularly $500-$600 and will perform 1000x better than any $1,000 "workstation" PC from HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc. HP, Dell, Lenovo and other OEM manufacturers are literally selling $1,000 "workstation" PCs with no GPU, that stuff is junk e-waste compared to a Mac Mini, they're all weaker and will also age much worse in the long term.

The Apple tax definitely does exist, it's BS that you have to pay $200 just to upgrade to 1tb of memory, but my main point was that their base model computers are 1000x better value than anything else in their price range and will be more than sufficient for 90% of consumers, that's simply an objective fact.

I'm not a big Apple fan, I'm just a fair and objective tech enthusiast

 

[ethomaz]

If apple think their brand is so strong they can drop a 35 hundred reality glasses they smoking some crazy ass cali kush. This is gonna be their biggest failure. Steve Jobs is spinning in his grave, this is not what Apple is about.

Nah.
It will sell pretty well for devices at that price range.

Something maybe some don’t understand (not sure if this case) is that Apple product works…

I was trying to test alternatives for tag devices to help to find keys because my wife lost the car keys for the second time in a year and now I had to buy a new key that costed me around $200.

The point is I brought the AirTag, the Samsung similar, and a Google one that works with all Androids.

Imagine which one worked flawless?

When I opened the pack and removed the seal my IPhone already asked me to register the AirTag… like 5 seconds and it was everything working.

The Samsung was more simple than Google compatible to setup if you have a Samsung phone but neither was like the Apple one.

But what matter is the performance of it attend what we want…

My wife gone with the 3 to a public park… the Apple one showed the tracking the whole route like in real time, when I hit alarm it ring there near instantly, everything worked flawless.

The Samsung one has gaps… some places I could not find it or use the alert to ring it… it works wince you lose it in some place that works.

Google was the worst… I know it works in all Android with the Google Find My Device fails more than works… it really worst than Samsung or Apple solution.

I know you guys have more options in US… but all of them use 3rd-parties tracking or apps… and from the reviewed I saw it is crap outside US because there is not enough devices using the app to get reliable.

Apple works for me… I already expected it work but working so well was way above my already positive expectations.

I’m buying AirTags to all things now… even my cat

So I expect nothing less from that new Apple device.
You pay more for convenience... and I love convenience.... it is the same reason I don't play games on PC.

 

[Hezekiah]

Google doesn't have anywhere near the consumer pull that Apple does, the Pixel is great but niche and Chromebooks are only used by schools and businesses. Apple can pivot to the new transparent OLEDs with the next model if need be, and for something as simple as seeing eyes better, it's really not a big deal and definitely not a "miscalculation". I agree that they could've rolled it out better, but let's just wait and see, it's way too soon to speculate about a product that doesn't exist yet and that is the first of it's kind. Like when Steve Ballmer said the iPhone was DOA because it didn't have a physical keyboard. No one knows how things will pan out.


Umm...the M2 Mac Mini is regularly $500-$600 and will perform 1000x better than any $1,000 "workstation" PC from HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc. HP, Dell, Lenovo and other OEM manufacturers are literally selling $1,000 "workstation" PCs with no GPU, that stuff is junk e-waste compared to a Mac Mini, they're all weaker and will also age much worse in the long term.

The Apple tax definitely does exist, it's BS that you have to pay $200 just to upgrade to 1tb of memory, but my main point was that their base model computers are 1000x better value than anything else in their price range and will be more than sufficient for 90% of consumers, that's simply an objective fact.

I'm not a big Apple fan, I'm just a fair and objective tech enthusiast

Mac Mini's are shite though, that's why they are cheap lol. No upgradeablity of course which I guess is a common theme with Apple products.

 

[JAHGamer]

Mac Mini's are shite though, that's why they are cheap lol. No upgradeablity of course which I guess is a common theme with Apple products.

Shite? When it wipes the floor in benchmarks with PCs that cost 2x-3x as much? At $600 it's an absolute steal. Bro you are really an Apple hater , that's fine though, to each their own.

 

[ethomaz]

I'm a professional software developer. My company gave me a Macbook Pro to do my professional work on. What kind of professional is addressed in the "Vision Pro" tag?

There are a lot of uses...

For example for immersive meetings and teamwork even if everybody is remote.

BTW the ability to adjust the immersion level is just a killer feature that open many possibilities.

 

[Hezekiah]

Shite? When it wipes the floor in benchmarks with PCs that cost 2x-3x as much? At $600 it's an absolute steal. Bro you are really an Apple hater , that's fine though, to each their own.

Benchmarks ffs

Apple bros love to bring up benchmarks. 256GB SSD storage and 8GB RAM? No problem, it has thunderbolt and headphones jacks!

 

[JAHGamer]

Benchmarks ffs

Apple bros love to bring up benchmarks. 256GB SSD storage and 8GB RAM? No problem, it has thunderbolt and headphones jacks!

Trying to downplay benchmarks, an objective measurement, is crazy

 

[Hezekiah]

Trying to downplay benchmarks, an objective measurement, is crazy

Yeah I mean benchmarks definitely outrank real-world use

 

[Zzero]

The fact it looks like a normal glasses where you can see the eyes of the person is already a big plus in the good looking thing.
PSVR2 is probably more capable but it looks way off when you wear it.

Aesthetics and design matters a lot.

Its MR vs VR, they had to make it see-through vs entirely screen-based.

Anyways, that looks "okay" for work environments but still too bulky. Until it looks like regular glasses it will still be too bulky to break out.

 

[JAHGamer]

Yeah I mean benchmarks definitely outrank real-world use

Apple is objectively superior in both

 

[anonpuffs]

While the specs are very very impressive, i won't use apple products on principle. Also $3500 is a lot for something i wouldn't have that much use for.

 

[historia]

Can it play DCS and other Steam VR.

If I maybe interested.

 

[Hezekiah]

Apple is objectively superior in both

Apple tax, shit for gaming, no upgradeablity path

But it just works!

 

[Hezekiah]

While the specs are very very impressive, i won't use apple products on principle. Also $3500 is a lot for something i wouldn't have that much use for.

A lot of people will be suckered in by the hype, and be living in regret within about three months of use.

A bit like all the people who bought Pelotons during COVID I expect there'll be lots of these on sale second-hand not long after launch.

 

[Would_you_kindly]

The fact it looks like a normal glasses where you can see the eyes of the person is already a big plus in the good looking thing.
PSVR2 is probably more capable but it looks way off when you wear it.

Aesthetics and design matters a lot.

So does price you think anyone's going to buy a gaming headset that costs thousands that aren't stupid / rich or both

 

[Gamernyc78]

URL unfurl="true"]https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/29/apple-vision-pro-headset-sales/[/URL]

Apple has sold upwards of 200,000 Vision Pro headsets, MacRumors has learned from a source with knowledge of Apple's sales numbers. Apple began accepting pre-orders for the Vision Pro on January 19, so the headset has been available for purchase in the U.S. for 10 days.

Reviews:

Vision Pro – 8 reasons to buy Apple's next-gen mixed-reality headset – and some reasons to skip it

One tough decision

www.techradar.com

 

[Gamernyc78]

*Will update as reviews drop. Reviews are set to drop later today.

 

[John Elden Ring]

URL unfurl="true"]https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/29/apple-vision-pro-headset-sales/[/URL]

Apple has sold upwards of 200,000 Vision Pro headsets, MacRumors has learned from a source with knowledge of Apple's sales numbers. Apple began accepting pre-orders for the Vision Pro on January 19, so the headset has been available for purchase in the U.S. for 10 days.

Reviews:

Vision Pro – 8 reasons to buy Apple's next-gen mixed-reality headset – and some reasons to skip it

One tough decision

www.techradar.com

The pre orders for this sold out apparently https://www.kasada.io/are-bots-behind-the-apple-vision-pro-pre-orders/

 

[ethomaz]

The reviewer…

Apple device is the most comfortable on the market (that should be a pro) but wearing a 600g device will never be comfortable like using glasses (so he put it as a con).



He tried hard to find others cons for not buy it as the only reason to not buy it is PRICE.

The rest of his cons list is just made up things.

The price is really off to what most people can buy.

 

[Gamernyc78]

The reviewer…

Apple device is the most comfortable on the market (that should be a pro) but wearing a 600g device will never be comfortable like using glasses (so he put it as a con).



He tried hard to find others cons for not buy it as the only reason to not buy it is PRICE.

The rest of his cons list is just made up things.

The price is really off to what most people can buy.

We should get more reviews soon, I'll update.