Sony Bend made syphon filter that at its best sold a couple of million. Lets not make Sony Bend a better studio than it actually is, Splinter cell and Metal Gear are the better espionage games. Their best game to date has been days gone and you know how the discourse regarding that was at launch, A great game brought down by "gaming journalism" , representation politics and technical issues. It took 2 years after release for the game to gain traction and actual fans. In case of Days Gone the consumers are as much to blame as the gaming media pundits. Oh what could have been !
Bend Studio’s Next Game, linkedin job advertisement. Definitely looks to be "Live Service".
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Awww and here's the resident psychoanalyzer adding yet again nothing of substance to a topic.
More like the resident cuckold that has different needs than those we can provide via the internet.
I think it's a crime it hasn't had a ps5 native upgrade when they've released it on pc
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Yeah the graphics are already top notch load times are abysmal though so instant loading with SSD & dualsense features would be great
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I'm one trophy away from a platinum think I'll finish it off soon.
Syphon Filter would effectively be a reboot. But I agree with Syphon Filter absolutely never having been a big deal. Not a slight tho. It’s so many years since it might as well be a new IP.
I mean… I wouldn’t hate it if they tried making it or something similar. We don’t really have splinter cell and metal gear anymore… snake eater remake don’t count.
PlayStation now has the bulk of their workforce working on GaaS at this point, there is no going back and for every Helldivers 2 (a game that was already happening regardless of their recent pivot) there are going to be 10 fops and canceled projects.
Their gaming pipeline is now completely different from what it was during the PS4 generation and if not for the Insomniac acquisition/productivity and the Final Fantasy deals everyone would've realized at this point that it has been a complete disaster.
Their gaming pipeline is now completely different from what it was during the PS4 generation and if not for the Insomniac acquisition/productivity and the Final Fantasy deals everyone would've realized at this point that it has been a complete disaster.
And a canceled project in this case would be better news. Imagine thinking a canceled game is good news. 5 years ago you wouldn't even think about it.
The biggest issue is that it will take them over 5 years to correct course IF they decide to do so. That's a lot of time to screw around.
These bean counters aren't going to correct anything, when all these failures start impact their profits they are going to get desperate and completely ruin PlayStation as has already happened to most other big publishers.
It's pretty clear that they are all about short term decisions at the expense of the long term health of their platform. Right now PS4 momentum is creating an illusion of competence and success.
I dont think they are.
-ND making new IP.
-Santa Monic, new single player IP
-Guerilla. Horizon 3 and Horizon onine
-Insomniac: Wolverine, Venom and Spiderman 3, Xmen in the future etc
(Even though the online spiderman game looked good)
-Sucker Punch: GOT2 - I hope they make a multiplayermode because the last one was surprising good.
-MediaMolecule: No1 knows lol
-Asobi - Probably Astrobot
-Bend- New Gaas game
Its most the news studios like making stuff like Concord, Marathon Etc and Bend. And that average looking Heist game
If they manage to make something like FF14, Helldivers 2, Destiny, Rocketleague etc, it will be good. They are well received games, have a single player element and make money.
If they can give me a single player experience that keeps going, why not.
Why I was excited about Factions 2, ND would of done a great job, Sony just didnt give them the resources needed to make it and make some other single player games, stupid of them not to give them what they needed in 2019/2020 when they decided to make it a solo game. ND would of cooked something awesome
Well, we'll find out. Must be considered good if it changed to live service.
So far Gran Turismo & Hell Divers only 2 successes.
Bungie awful, an awful purchase that wasted money. (Only saving grace they have the talent to do another studio & hire them for other studios)
Concord - ???
Fair Games - ???
Bend - ??
I don't know based on probability some of these gotta flop right. Unless They have nailed the gaps in the market. But there's a flop somewhere.
Bungee is massive L. They are not fixing that. Based on Bungie's track record.
So far Gran Turismo & Hell Divers only 2 successes.
Bungie awful, an awful purchase that wasted money. (Only saving grace they have the talent to do another studio & hire them for other studios)
Concord - ???
Fair Games - ???
Bend - ??
I don't know based on probability some of these gotta flop right. Unless They have nailed the gaps in the market. But there's a flop somewhere.
Bungee is massive L. They are not fixing that. Based on Bungie's track record.
Just waiting for people to remember that Sucker Punch is also working on what sounds like a live service game.
www.gamesradar.com
Ghost of Tsushima developer Sucker Punch is hiring for a “spectacular multiplayer game”
Hopefully Ghost of Tsushima isn't the last samurai game we see from them
I can see this, the investment vs. the return is going to make them greatly rethink the importance of what they create. Wouldn't surprise me if single player games are less prominent or at the very least will have service based aspects to them to prolong community and engagement.
So they did a PC release to leverage better load times but never patched it for their new console to leverage its SSD? Smells like a whiff of second-class citizenry to me.
Just waiting for people to remember that Sucker Punch is also working on what sounds like a live service game.
Ghost of Tsushima developer Sucker Punch is hiring for a “spectacular multiplayer game”
Hopefully Ghost of Tsushima isn't the last samurai game we see from them
As usual I'd wait for more details but the bits & pieces of circumstantial evidence all seem to be pointing towards a certain direction.
Not that I care too much anymore. I've said what I felt would be best for these companies so much that at this point just feels like I'd be repeating things over again. They're gonna do what they're gonna do. And I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do, what's best for me.
The only unfortunate part there is, that increasingly seems like it won't involve certain platforms nearly as much as I'd of preferred.
It's funny to bring up the FF deals because everyone would have you think Sony are locking up timed exclusives for every major 3P game under the sun when in reality it's "just" mainline Final Fantasy games. Ever Crisis? Day 1 multiplat. All of S-E's non-mainline FF games have been multiplats Day 1. SF6? Day 1 multiplat. Avatar? Hogwarts? Elden Ring? Alan Wake 2? Tekken 8? RE4 Remake? I could go on and on, all of them Day 1 remakes.
It makes Irman Khan's BS rumors from back in 2020 look even worst today because you'd THINK we'd of seen at least one or two of those games, especially Japanese ones, have skipped Xbox if that rumor were true. But outside of FF XVI and VII Rebirth, the only other "notable" 3P exclusives Sony've had this gen in terms of big well-known IP were just Bethesda games, and not even established IP, but new games like Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo. Both of which I'd classify as high-production AA games at most.
So yeah if you take away XVI and VII Rebirth, and Insomniac, exclusives-wise for PS5 you are left with cross-gen 1P AAA releases, a single 1P AAA that's a remake, a single 1P high-production AA new IP, a remake to a game that was already remastered on PS4, a remaster of a game that launched the same year of PS5's release, and a small handful 3P AA indie games.
For the first four years of a likely eight-year console generation....
It's not the content itself that's been an issue, but the balance of content. The balance and quantity issues are just exacerbated console-side with the PC ports, since there hasn't been nearly enough new coming in for the console to balance out once-exclusives now getting ported to other, increasingly competitive platforms.
I'm just observing the trend and I'd like to think it's being reversed but there is absolutely no way I'm going to say that with my chest until it's publicly stated and shown. When actions meet words.
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Bungie (massive studio).
Huge multiplayer project canceled inside ND (your of development down the drain)
Likely canceled project inside Insomniac
Multiple projects involving Guerrilla (Horizon MMO and some sort of multiplayer shooter).
To me it seem crazy that you assume Bend would be able to create something like FF14, Helldivers 2, Destiny, Rocketleague. To me they seem completelly unsuited for that.
If even Bend is now pivoting to GaaS how do we know other studios aren't doing it as well? Pretty much all we have officially announced from internal studios are GaaS (Farigame$, Concord and Marathon).
There is also the classic slide by Sony, that shows their projection for Traditional vs Live Service investments:
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But have you considered the record revenue?
