CD Projekt Red is ripe for that taking

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Gediminas

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I have already explained to you production started in 2016, with sources, straight from the horse's mouth, the Quest Director.
Research and pre-production are not production. The game was in production from 2016 to 2020, that is, 4 years.




The 2018 45-minute demo didn't have Ray Tracing enabled.
That alone settles the point.

Au revoir.
stop goal post moving. you talked about developing, ended up about production.
research and pre-production is developing time.
i put a link, there is a video, where the guy speaks how CD Project have a second team, experience team which is developing new triple AAA game for few years already.
and this conference was in 2012.
 
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They have like 1000 employees. Waste of money, and even worse - adding bloat.

I also have no idea why people want so much consolidation.

And since I own a PS5, I can already play their games. Sony buying them adds nothing for me.

preemptive strike before MS gets their stinking hands on them

i have np if they stay 3rd party and no one buys them
 

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You don't want a studio that takes so long to develop a game, you don't want a studio that never releases on it's promises both graphically and it's gameplay features, you don't want a studio that has never developed a polished game at release, ever....They just don't meet PS studios quality level and it will be too much work for Sony to get them to that level. Their only successful game was Witcher 3, the third game in the series. It's very clear that TW3 got lots of media fellation since it was a mess at launch and had many glaring gameplay flaws for an open WRPG in the modern era, bad controls and cameras. I personally think XBOX marketing helped them out.

Yet that studio is no FROM Software, they are not consistent or a trendsetter of high scoring games, they are like the Milli Vanilli of devs, one hit wonders, just that I caught the lip synching from their lone hit Witcher 3. Sometimes I just think the media wants to will certain devs into greatness, the marketing and money makes the round and that is the result. W3 is their best game, don't get me wrong, but I think other studios who had more polished games and nicer visuals, who had better gameplay systems were not received as well. Days Gone was such a great game to play and so was Tsushima. How could Witcher 3 get GOTY and not Tsushima? Both of these games deserve better, especially Tsushima, because the gameplay loop and depth there is sublime.
 
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stop goal post moving. you talked about developing, ended up about production.

This is not to diminish the obvious problems with its development.

research and pre-production is developing time.

You're free to do that. Just make sure you do the same to any other game whose development you're trying to compare it with.

i put a link, there is a video, where the guy speaks how CD Project have a second team, experience team which is developing new triple AAA game for few years already.
and this conference was in 2012.

1. CDPR announced recently they would be moving to AAA parallel development.

2. This means that before they weren't.

3. This means in 2013 they most definitely weren't doing parallel AAA [heavy-lifting] development. They were working on TW3 at the time.


4. Let's look at CDPR's Tweet:


Quote: "Parallel AAA Development to start in 2022"

Development.

So, according to CD Projekt RED, prior to 2022, there was no AAA parallel development. It's a 2022 innovation. And since in 2013 they were developing TW3, this means they themselves are not counting CP2077 Research and Pre-production as development propper.

I rest my case.
 
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how many more ‘dark souls’ games does Miyazaki have in him at this point
From Software have more in them than just Souls Games. They can do traditional RPG, They make the best mech games like armored core which played great, they can do Action slashers like Sekiro/Otogi/Ninja Blade. I remembered Evergrace and Eternal Ring were pretty good games on PS2. I also know they can do some really solid survival horror games. I think From can do pretty much anything. All they need is some PS studios graphical and framerate polish. I think Demon Souls Remake is a good indicator of what a From game can look and play like under a Sony umbrella. They are a very talented studio and would be an asset, unlike CDPR. Just look how long CDPR is taking to patch Witcher 3 on PS5/XSX. They won't be a good buy.
 

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At this point, nothing surprises me and I'd be ok with Sony making that move.

CDPR is just a horrible company by itself, but I'd be ok with a better publisher overseeing those IP. If thats Sony's answer to Bethesda, it wouldn't be the worst move imho.

I still think they should buy that Kingdome Come developer
 

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stop goal post moving. you talked about developing, ended up about production.
research and pre-production is developing time.
i put a link, there is a video, where the guy speaks how CD Project have a second team, experience team which is developing new triple AAA game for few years already.
and this conference was in 2012.

Agreed 1000%

All that is relevant and all that is still development time. The way I see it, if your ass started making a story, concept art and have a team on it....it started lol idgaf about no "we started doing this part during this year " or "this phase started at this time".....if the game has a team, has a concept ready...it started development. I don't get this idea that we can all agree that Red Dead 2 was in development for like 8 or 9 years, but ohhhhh CP2077 was now only in development for 4 years, dis, dis and dat don't count lol We've NEVER counted development like that where we just disregard some massive portion, using this logic FFXV didn't have a 10 year development. So I think many of us count when it started REGARDLESS of what was changed, revised, fixed, altered etc ALL of that is part of developing something. I'm sure how they got to what was finally that game was a few years ago, but we can't disregard when that game started and all its fuck ups to move goalpost.

The game had a long ass development and managed to fuck up some of the most basic features we've known in game for like 2 decades. At some point CP2077 was struggling to match GTAIII features lol

Even for arguments sake, if someone wanted to say they only had 4 years, Ubisoft only had 4 years with Watchdogs 3 and managed to have functional game with AI that could drive cars, come after you, react to you existing lol
 
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