Circana (NPD) November 2023: #1 COD MWIII #2 Spider-Man 2 #3 Hogwarts Legacy; PS5 #1 Units + Revenue, XBS #2 Units + Revenue
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For as much grief as the xbone gets in terms of being a failure it looks like it held its own for awhile, at least in the US. The series sales S/X are disastrous.
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Not good for PlayStation hardware.
Sony gonna have to do a lot of leg work outside the U.S if this trend keeps up. We're in prime years.
Reaching more or less lifetime parity with the PS4 should be seen for what it's - a failure, specially when Xbox is declining at a rapid pace. Should be gunning for PS2 install base numbers, and this is not the pace to reach it. Someone's gobbling up a slice of the shrinking Xbox base and largely unaccounted.... guess who? "Nintendo!" "Nintendo!".... well yeah, a slice that should be accounted for but PC as well, and that is the one not being accounted for. You got a proper three way split of the Xbox base (Switch, PlayStation, PC), instead of simply a defacto 2 way split (PlayStation heavy and Nintendo). Since Valve keeps a lid on financials, it's going to be tough judging just how much of the Xbox loss, is a PC gain.
Kill PC porting, and soon. The monster is already here. Jim and company can't bounce soon enough. There are also macro economic trends at play but still - excuses are cheap.
Sony gonna have to do a lot of leg work outside the U.S if this trend keeps up. We're in prime years.
Reaching more or less lifetime parity with the PS4 should be seen for what it's - a failure, specially when Xbox is declining at a rapid pace. Should be gunning for PS2 install base numbers, and this is not the pace to reach it. Someone's gobbling up a slice of the shrinking Xbox base and largely unaccounted.... guess who? "Nintendo!" "Nintendo!".... well yeah, a slice that should be accounted for but PC as well, and that is the one not being accounted for. You got a proper three way split of the Xbox base (Switch, PlayStation, PC), instead of simply a defacto 2 way split (PlayStation heavy and Nintendo). Since Valve keeps a lid on financials, it's going to be tough judging just how much of the Xbox loss, is a PC gain.
Kill PC porting, and soon. The monster is already here. Jim and company can't bounce soon enough. There are also macro economic trends at play but still - excuses are cheap.
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It’s cause they haven’t done any significant sales on their current hardware
in 2016 You forget we had the PS4 Pro and the $299 PS4.
Discount Season Soon imo
They sold over a million units at mostly 499 and outsold their competition 2:1. PS5 has been 499 for almost 3 years, they need to lower the price.
I'm not sad at all since they decided not to release a physical copy for the game on consoles. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Microsoft ‘clear winner’ in video game space this Black Friday with X Box Series X most in-demand hardware. Prepare for mental gymnastics 😂
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Oh, I just assumed that it was a global discount. So, it was mainly EU?
ERA Xbox OT claims that PS are wrong to rely on sales and that their whole business would fall apart if the console stops selling well.
Yeh and it was sporadic as well. Most deals involved a game being included rather then a price drop
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I posted it for laughs. We knew how this would go, it happens every year.Microsoft ‘clear winner’ in video game space this Black Friday with X Box Series X most in-demand hardware. Prepare for mental gymnastics 😂
https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/1034374/microsoft-clear-winner-in-video-game-space-this-black-friday-with-x-box-series-x-most-in-demand-hardware-1034374.html Black Friday 2023 in the video game space differed from previous years as there was ample inventory of high-end...
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How can I put it in the simplest of terms for you and others to work it out:
The unit sales pace is not poised to surpass PS4 lifetime by a significant margin, despite its main direct competitor seeing a significant decline. Hence there lies a problem. Stands to reason, as a direct PlayStation competitor, an Xbox decline in unit sales should more or less be reflected by a relative increase of PlayStation unit sales. It's never going to be 1:1, but it's going to be a significantly higher ratio than the Nintendo Switch ratio, and the PC ratio. Conventional wisdom goes that way more or less. Well turns out, the PlayStation ratio is way lower than what it should be, clearly. That means PC is eating at a higher ratio than what some may have thought, on top of the Switch phenomenon continuing to show legs, absent with the Wii U - which I welcome and got no beef with.
Have to laugh at some forumners still posting around the idiocy that PC is an indirect competitor. Numbers don't lie.
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PS4 was 399 for most of its life compared to 499, widely avavailbale, and was 299 its third holiday plus the pro just came out. IDK if sony will reach 25 million sold but they just over 1 million at mostly 499, spiderman 2 had good legs, older software picked up in sales if you look passed the top 10, and outsold xbox 2:1 in its strongest market. Look im usually a debbie downer but this is a good month for PS no matter how people want to spin it.
PS5 also sells far better in other markets then the PS4 did
What seems to have happened is the PS5 took mindshare away from Xbox in the USA whilst not growing mindshare whilst elsewhere in the world it’s growing mindshare
The concern trolling about PS5 hardware sales and Alan Wake 2 sales is hilarious when Sony is doing a record year sales wise, and Alan Wake 2 sales are not even tracked because Epic doesn't share the data.
But you will see more actual hardware declines thanks to Jim Ryan's first party drought in 2024.
But you will see more actual hardware declines thanks to Jim Ryan's first party drought in 2024.
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They also argued that ABK pulls in so much money that it can just subsidize hardware and it doesn't matter how poorly the console sells.