Circana (NPD) November 2023: #1 COD MWIII #2 Spider-Man 2 #3 Hogwarts Legacy; PS5 #1 Units + Revenue, XBS #2 Units + Revenue

Loy310

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Their hardware situation is so bad that not even major retailers want to help them. Cant help that the folks that run these vendors sees and knows that ms got money to fucking burn after buying 2 big ass pubs but expect the part of the business that really only make their money off resales to sacrifice a portion of their cut of hw, in the holidays, and make that pledge to a company that pretty much wants the GS business model to go belly up.
I hope gs told them Merry Christmas and to fuck right off.
 
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The comprehension ability for some of you is at dangerous levels if you think pointing out the biggest gaming retailer not dropping the Series X down to $349 like everyone else is going to impact how much it sells overall is actually an excuse for when the Circana report comes out.
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The comprehension ability for some of you is at dangerous levels if you think pointing out the biggest gaming retailer not dropping the Series X down to $349 like everyone else is going to impact how much it sells overall is actually an excuse for when the Circana report comes out.
That would be true for a product with no stock, since consumers would not have an option to buy elsewhere. With plenty of stock everywhere, even 1 retailer refusing to lower the price should have no impact on sales.
 

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That would be true for a product with no stock, since consumers would not have an option to buy elsewhere. With plenty of stock everywhere, even 1 retailer refusing to lower the price should have no impact on sales.
You don't know how retail works then. Most purchases are bought at the moment, in the store. Especially in the week leading up to Christmas as that is when last minute panic shopping is at its highest.

A good chunk of the total video game retail market only buy at GameStop and people that casually buy video game content from GameStop aren't going to know about the $349 deals at other retailers. I think the biggest evidence for this would be how the Series X didn't completely crater at GameStop's rankings while being cheaper everywhere else, and maintained a similar ranking relative to PS5 and Switch as it had for weeks prior.

Microsoft was still advertising only a $399 price on Twitter last week even after all the retailers dropped it to $349, so the only people who'd even know about the $349 prices are those that are online enough to know who Wario64 is, or were already shopping at Best Buy, Amazon, Walmart, and Target to see the new $349 price.

Your thinking also falls apart when Walmart was selling the Series X at $349 for weeks all on its own, yet Series X sales went up at Best Buy and Target when made available at $349. If everyone knew about the $349 deals, everyone interested would've just bought them at Walmart and not wait for other retailers to drop the price.

Walmart sold a certain amount of $349 Series X by itself for 3 weeks. Best Buy and Target then lower Series X to $349 and saw sales increase, ergo, GameStop would also see an increase in sales if it went down to $349.
 
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The only shame is that Xbox wasn't put out of its misery at the beginning of this gen, and is allowed to continue to hobble on one leg. Wasn't meant to be I guess. We now have to watch the fire-sale strategy of MS on repeat as they did last gen for Xbox One.
 
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Darth Vader

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You don't know how retail works then. Most purchases are bought at the moment, in the store. Especially in the week leading up to Christmas as that is when last minute panic shopping is at its highest.

A good chunk of the total video game retail market only buy at GameStop and people that casually buy video game content from GameStop aren't going to know about the $349 deals at other retailers. I think the biggest evidence for this would be how the Series X didn't completely crater at GameStop's rankings while being cheaper everywhere else, and maintained a similar ranking relative to PS5 and Switch as it had for weeks prior.

Microsoft was still advertising only a $399 price on Twitter last week even after all the retailers dropped it to $349, so the only people who'd even know about the $349 prices are those that are online enough to know who Wario64 is, or were already shopping at Best Buy, Amazon, Walmart, and Target to see the new $349 price.

Your thinking also falls apart when Walmart was selling the Series X at $349 for weeks all on its own, yet Series X sales went up at Best Buy and Target when made available at $349. If everyone knew about the $349 deals, everyone interested would've just bought them at Walmart and not wait for other retailers to drop the price.

Walmart sold a certain amount of $349 Series X by itself for 3 weeks. Best Buy and Target then lower Series X to $349 and saw sales increase, ergo, GameStop would also see an increase in sales if it went down to $349.

Where's the data showing that most purchases are there and there in store, especially with no planning as you imply? Let's not forget that we're not talking groceries here, we're talking consoles.

Even if we ignore that, your theory is very pretty and all, but is substantiated by fuck all arguments, but nothing unexpected from the guy that has been trying to rewrite the law of supply and demand when it concerns to Xbox sales.
 

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Where's the data showing that most purchases are there and there in store, especially with no planning as you imply? Let's not forget that we're not talking groceries here, we're talking consoles.

Even if we ignore that, your theory is very pretty and all, but is substantiated by fuck all arguments, but nothing unexpected from the guy that has been trying to rewrite the law of supply and demand when it concerns to Xbox sales.
Years of talking to retail workers. Even with games, the average consumer walking into a store isn't very aware of what is going on.

This is a survey conducted by Slickdeals in 2022 that showed 73% of Americans make impulse purchases at an average of $314 a month


Here's another about retail vs online but it isn't video game focused https://chainstoreage.com/survey-ph... impulse purchasing,from the survey are below

The above is more general and not focused on holiday shopping, but we also have years and years of data that shows there is a reason why Sony and Microsoft have been cutting their prices in December over the past generation, in the lead up to Christmas. Before, consoles were price cut before the holidays and retailers would just bundle items at most for Black Friday. Then the consoles started seeing official bundles/price discounts for Black Friday, then it became price cuts for both Black Friday and then the few weeks up to Christmas. The idea is to get an impulsive purchase made for your product over the competition.

Even then, my "theory" isn't one, but reality. How would you explain all the Series X that were purchased from the time of December 1 to, what, the 16th, outside of Walmart, when Walmart had the best deal of $349 while other stores were at $499? Or that every retailer saw sales increase at $349 even though Walmart had already been selling the X at $349 for weeks? Sales didn't dry up anywhere because one retailer had a great deal, and sales went up everywhere that dropped to $349.

Also this forum will never accept basic information that Series X was supply constrained in the US up to June 2023 and will never understand what supply/demand actually looks like in practice. It's ignored or outright dismissed every piece of evidence that isn't even from me as well.