Concord Registers Only 1100 players during first Day of Closed Beta (Steam) | 2210 Players at Open Beta

[quest4441]

The people saying PS has higher player numbers- ofc the player numbers will be higher because it is basically f2p for the 45 million people on ps+. The steam numbers are from people who actually paid for the game and represent hard sales as steam players cannot get into this beta without pre-ordering.

So it begets that the sales on Steam currently are very poor and even the most ardent of the defenders can agree that there is nothing mind blowing about this game that will see an explosion of pre-orders post both the betas. So we can write this off as a flop on at least one platform, It remains to be seen if it will gain traction on PSN but the deck is stacked against that too

 

[Neversummer]

Yeah, this thing's dead. Next, so we can finally get this GaaS crap out of our system and focus on great SP games.

Just cause 1 PS multiplayer game fail don’t mean PS is gonna stop. PS shouldn’t stop live service if they did they would have to go day n date on PC & Nintendo to extract more $ + expand ip to other players. In ways PS fan should hope PS live service succeed since it will slow franchise to expand to a new audience on PS, PC & Mobile.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

We were told every game needs to be on PC for guaranteed success or you're DOA. When will Sony learn PC people don't matter? Focus on your platform.

The game should have been a PS+ exclusive for 6 months. Build a foundation.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

Just cause 1 PS multiplayer game fail don’t mean PS is gonna stop. PS shouldn’t stop live service if they did they would have to go day n date on PC & Nintendo to extract more $ + expand ip to other players. In ways PS fan should hope PS live service succeed since it will slow franchise to expand to a new audience on PS, PC & Mobile.

They don’t understand that single player games aren’t keeping the lights on at SIE

Before you know it they are gonna be forced to either cut back on production, port to other platforms, or fill their single player games with MTX like ubisoft does.

And no one wants any of the above. You should all pray that the multiplayer gamers do well enough to continue to fund 300m dollar naughty dog and god of war games

 

[quest4441]

Sony wont stop making GaaS even if this flops, The counter point to this failing is what unholy abomination they will cook up next to trump concord and frankly I am more scared of that.

 

[Neversummer]

All that talent wasted such a shame. I doubt even with cool character designs it would’ve been a break out hit but those characters are genuinely atrocious.

Character design play a major part in games. Would Metroid be such an icon with out her armor or if the girl itself was a pink hair blue lipstick bigger slob character?

 

[anonpuffs]

They don’t understand that single player games aren’t keeping the lights on at SIE

Before you know it they are gonna be forced to either cut back on production, port to other platforms, or fill their single player games with MTX like ubisoft does.

And no one wants any of the above. You should all pray that the multiplayer gamers do well enough to continue to fund 300m dollar naughty dog and god of war games

They are though. 60% of game time is spent on single player games and the multiplayer games impose significant additional costs for hosting servers etc.
That's not to say that PS would succeed without any multiplayer titles but people buy PS for the single player titles and the 3rd party multiplats are enough to satisfy the MP market. What's happening now is that the shareholder appeasers at the top of Sony aren't satisfied with taking 30% and want the whole thing.

 

[JAHGamer]

Just cause 1 PS multiplayer game fail don’t mean PS is gonna stop. PS shouldn’t stop live service if they did they would have to go day n date on PC & Nintendo to extract more $ + expand ip to other players. In ways PS fan should hope PS live service succeed since it will slow franchise to expand to a new audience on PS, PC & Mobile.

Bro, you been reading too many posts from Yurinka and Mibu. their awful takes are starting to rub off on you. This post makes no sense

They don’t understand that single player games aren’t keeping the lights on at SIE

Before you know it they are gonna be forced to either cut back on production, port to other platforms, or fill their single player games with MTX like ubisoft does.

And no one wants any of the above. You should all pray that the multiplayer gamers do well enough to continue to fund 300m dollar naughty dog and god of war games

Another post that makes no sense....

 

[Yurinka]

Concord Registers Only 1100 players of Beta (Steam)​

The thread title is a lie.

Steam CCU is not the same than registered players for the beta. Steam CCU is the subset of the Steam players who are playing at the same time, not the ones who got the beta.

The PC beta in Steam is limited to people who preordered it, the PS beta instead is limited to the PS+ subscribers.

 

[Neversummer]

They don’t understand that single player games aren’t keeping the lights on at SIE

Before you know it they are gonna be forced to either cut back on production, port to other platforms, or fill their single player games with MTX like ubisoft does.

And no one wants any of the above. You should all pray that the multiplayer gamers do well enough to continue to fund 300m dollar naughty dog and god of war games

Exactly, it’s almost a necessity. You want to expand the GOW franchise to a new audience? Make a live service Diablo competitor using the GOW ip & release it on PS, PC & mobile you can reach a new audience on other platforms outside PS without needing to release the ten pole franchise on direct competitor platform (which there doing already) you can see live service or the demise of the PS platform which you can say they’re already doing with releasing on PC & Nintendo

 

[Neversummer]

Bro, you been reading too many posts from Yurinka and Mibu. their awful takes are starting to rub off on you. This post makes no sense


Another post that makes no sense....

Not really awful take. It’s reality of capitalism & the search for more profit/growth. People thinking if PS live service fails they’ll go back to making only singleplayer is dead wrong. If anything if that where ever to happen PS as a brand would be dead because they would be catering to the same older crowd that will eventually die or move one with no new blood to replace. Even Nintendo who people think only does singleplayer games have multiple massive live service games such as Mario Kart, Mario party, Splatoon, Mario kart mobile, Pokemon GO, Pokemon Unite, Pokemon EX master, Pikmin mobile, Fire Emblem Mobile etc all massive live service that expands the ip to a new audience + brings massive amount of profit/growth

PS live service fails expect MTX on PS singleplayer games, day n date on PC/Nintendo, increase price to $80+ or scale back budget on games.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

Single player adult AAA action games aren’t expanding sonys audience either.

Which is why they are trying to make tv shows,movies, lego games, and all sorts of other stuff to bring people in. I’m not surer why some people here think every game needs to cater to their specific taste? If you don’t like something find something else to do with your life instead of sitting around all sunny weekend tweeting and retweeting CCU numbers

 

[Neversummer]

They are though. 60% of game time is spent on single player games and the multiplayer games impose significant additional costs for hosting servers etc.
That's not to say that PS would succeed without any multiplayer titles but people buy PS for the single player titles and the 3rd party multiplats are enough to satisfy the MP market. What's happening now is that the shareholder appeasers at the top of Sony aren't satisfied with taking 30% and want the whole thing.

I disagree if anything from Sony shareholder meeting shareholders are more worried of possible cannibalism towards its PS console business because of the PC port.

I think Sony is trying to expand to PC & Mobile aswell as live service but imo there not doing it properly resulting in a lot of time, money & potential wasted. Its not the wrong direction for PS every publisher is pivoting to live service & in some cases the studios who hasn’t or have taken significantly longer then other publisher/studio like in the case of Square Enix is in a hard position because younger people aren’t getting into there games nor franchises.

 

[Neversummer]

Single player adult AAA action games aren’t expanding sonys audience either.

Which is why they are trying to make tv shows,movies, lego games, and all sorts of other stuff to bring people in. I’m not surer why some people here think every game needs to cater to their specific taste? If you don’t like something find something else to do with your life instead of sitting around all sunny weekend tweeting and retweeting CCU numbers

Yup, PS should look at some of there smaller ip with massive potential. Ratchet & Clank, Sly, Jak & Daxter, Ape Escape, Gravity Rush, Wild Arms, Parrapatherapper. These franchise can widen & bring a new audience aswell as digers PS supported franchise. For so long PS is looked as the adualt console which isn’t bad but they can be seen as both & do something Nintendo nor Xbox does.

Hell maybe in the future Nintendo makes mature rated M games. They announce that horror game that seems to be some sort of silent hill type game as the esrb rated the game to have some serious aspect not known to come from Nintendo

 

[anonpuffs]

The thread title is a lie.

Steam CCU is not the same than registered players for the beta. Steam CCU is the subset of the Steam players who are playing at the same time, not the ones who got the beta.

The PC beta in Steam is limited to people who preordered it, the PS beta instead is limited to the PS+ subscribers.

Regardless 1100 peak is very bad

 

[anonpuffs]

I disagree if anything from Sony shareholder meeting shareholders are more worried of possible cannibalism towards its PS console business because of the PC port.

I think Sony is trying to expand to PC & Mobile aswell as live service but imo there not doing it properly resulting in a lot of time, money & potential wasted. Its not the wrong direction for PS every publisher is pivoting to live service & in some cases the studios who hasn’t or have taken significantly longer then other publisher/studio like in the case of Square Enix is in a hard position because younger people aren’t getting into there games nor franchises.

One shareholder question doesn't negate the fact that shareholders only care about profit and growth.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Regardless 1100 peak is very bad

If that peak is representative of the number of pre-orders on Steam, I can't see that as anything other than grim.

 

[JAHGamer]

Not really awful take. It’s reality of capitalism & the search for more profit/growth. People thinking if PS live service fails they’ll go back to making only singleplayer is dead wrong. If anything if that where ever to happen PS as a brand would be dead because they would be catering to the same older crowd that will eventually die or move one with no new blood to replace. Even Nintendo who people think only does singleplayer games have multiple massive live service games such as Mario Kart, Mario party, Splatoon, Mario kart mobile, Pokemon GO, Pokemon Unite, Pokemon EX master, Pikmin mobile, Fire Emblem Mobile etc all massive live service that expands the ip to a new audience + brings massive amount of profit/growth

PS live service fails expect MTX on PS singleplayer games, day n date on PC/Nintendo, increase price to $80+ or scale back budget on games.

They don’t understand that single player games aren’t keeping the lights on at SIE

Before you know it they are gonna be forced to either cut back on production, port to other platforms, or fill their single player games with MTX like ubisoft does.

And no one wants any of the above. You should all pray that the multiplayer gamers do well enough to continue to fund 300m dollar naughty dog and god of war games

wtf am I reading??

Sony is apparently struggling to keep the lights on....? They need a gaas hit to save them?? But during the PS5 gen, they've already made more profit than the entirety of PS4/PS3/PS2/PS1 gen combined? And that was BEFORE the release of Helldivers 2??

I've come to expect this kind of dumb shortsighted thinking from Sony themselves, but not you @Neversummer , it seems like you've been brainwashed You guys are smoking crack if you think Sony needs some gaas hit to stay in business.

They make more money just from their 30% CoD cut than they do from 12+ million sales of Helldivers 2, their biggest gaas ever. And that's without doing any work. But yeah, keep investing billions and billions into more slop like Concord, that's the way to grow and expand Making exclusive single player games is far more sustainable for growth in the long term than GAAS ever could be. Not only do they have a much higher chance of success, they actually grow the install base. HD2 was the fastest selling 1st party game, but it didn't move more consoles than God of War or Spider-Man did. Larger install base = more revenue from 3rd party. Literally everyone understands this basic concept except Sony, Xbox, and a few forum idiots that hang on Sony's every word. And chasing this imaginary infinite growth is the reason why Sony is at their worst ever when it comes to optics and enthusiasm amongst fans.

Btw @Neversummer Nintendo needs live service games more than Sony because they don't have anywhere close to the 3rd party offerings that Sony does...Nintendo has always relied on 1st party and Sony has always relied on 3rd party. This is nothing new and there's nothing wrong with it. You guys can bring up acquisition scares if you want but CoD is still on PlayStation PlayStation carries the entire gaming industry on their back, its too big to be ignored, they're not under any threat from losing big games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex, Fifa, 2K, Madden, etc. The ABK acquisition has proved this. The only thing that can hurt Sony is Sony, which they've been working really hard at....They've been able to coast off the success of the PS4, but that won't last much longer. They'll wish they stuck with their original strategy instead of chasing gaas

 

[anonpuffs]

wtf am I reading??

Sony is apparently struggling to keep the lights on....? They need a gaas hit to save them?? But during the PS5 gen, they've already made more profit than the entirety of PS4/PS3/PS2/PS1 gen combined? And that was BEFORE the release of Helldivers 2??

I've come to expect this kind of dumb shortsighted thinking from Sony themselves, but not you @Neversummer , it seems like you've been brainwashed You guys are smoking crack if you think Sony needs some gaas hit to stay in business.

They make more money just from their 30% CoD cut than they do from 12+ million sales of Helldivers 2, their biggest gaas ever. And that's without doing any work. But yeah, keep investing billions and billions into more slop like Concord, that's the way to grow and expand Making exclusive single player games is far more sustainable for growth in the long term than GAAS ever could be. Not only do they have a much higher chance of success, they actually grow the install base. HD2 was the fastest selling 1st party game, but it didn't move more consoles than God of War or Spider-Man did. Larger install base = more revenue from 3rd party. Literally everyone understands this basic concept except Sony, Xbox, and a few forum idiots that hang on Sony's every word. And chasing this imaginary infinite growth is the reason why Sony is at their worst ever when it comes to optics and enthusiasm amongst fans.

Btw @Neversummer Nintendo needs live service games more than Sony because they don't have anywhere close to the 3rd party offerings that Sony does...Nintendo has always relied on 1st party and Sony has always relied on 3rd party. This is nothing new and there's nothing wrong with it. You guys can bring up acquisition scares if you want but CoD is still on PlayStation PlayStation carries the entire gaming industry on their back, its too big to be ignored, they're not under any threat from losing big games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex, Fifa, 2K, Madden, etc. The ABK acquisition has proved this. The only thing that can hurt Sony is Sony, which they've been working really hard at....They've been able to coast off the success of the PS4, but that won't last much longer. They'll wish they stuck with their original strategy instead of chasing gaas

 

[AllBizness]

PlayStation gaas dont need PC, im enjoying Concord beta right now.