Console wars are over. Microsoft ramping up 3rd party development. |UP| Chris Dring: Xbox flatlining in EU, Xbox games coming to PS & less focus on GP

Johnic

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Never even heard of that game. Such a minor title is no big deal. They did the same with ori. I can see xbox bringing minor titles to playstation.
Yeah, you're definitely leaning xbox heavily. Every single one of your post is some sort of copium about bad xbox news.

Guys, sorry to start shit in this thread but I can smell the shill bs from a mile away.
 

Zzero

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Sure lol

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Not talking about the system is not optimal for a portable.
I look at these two products and see two versions of the same thing. To claim that one is a "console" and the other a "PC" is lunacy. They're clearly two competing types of the same thing.
 

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Yeah, you're definitely leaning xbox heavily. Every single one of your post is some sort of copium about bad xbox news.

Guys, sorry to start shit in this thread but I can smell the shill bs from a mile away.
Keep me out of your console warrior rhetoric. I call it as i see it.
 

Johnic

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As Dusk falls isn't a bad game if you like David Cage stuff. Obviously not his game but plays somewhat the same, minus actually controlling your character. It's all choice based. Played it on Series X, got 2 playthroughs in. Enjoyed it.
 

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90% positive reviews on Steam - i.e. higher than the vast majority of Xbox exclusives.
barely anyone bought it on steam. 2k reviews in almost 2 years. Thats awful. Sales wise they did shit. But i dont know the budget. niche indie title.
 

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barely anyone bought it on steam. 2k reviews in almost 2 years. Thats awful. Sales wise they did shit. But i dont know the budget. niche indie title.
Neither did Forza Motorsport 8. Even Halo Infinite and Starfield sold nowhere near expectations.

I think we can expect more of this. They're starting with smaller AA titles, bigger games will come down the line as they can't accept low sales especially when GamePass is stagnant/declining,
 

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PC disguised as portables are not consoles.
Just look at their sales.
They are a PC device.

Consoles continue being consoles… and the only “hybrid” is Switch.

I mean consoles sells over 100 millions.
PC devices will be amazed happy if reach 5 million.

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Steamdeck is not the same thing as pc, it has its own custom hardware and runs its own dedicated OS. It can be considered a console (hell it runs windows games through a dedicated emulation layer). That said the line between consoles and pcs is getting blurrier.
 
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Dabaus

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So Gaz agrees and Speshal Nick doesn’t. Somewhat predictable. Nick is way more of a fanboy than Gaz is.

Ether way seems like this place is getting more 'negative' attention.
Gaz will 100 percent do a 180 and spin it like “anyone who actually believed that is a pony AND and idiot.” lol. I assume that he is trolling just for the attention.

Nick on the other hand runs the xboxera website so he might have a lot more to lose than gaz who could transition to just a regular gamer podcast, where as nicks identity is tied to the grifting Xbots out of donations to run their site.
 

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I was so pissed when they announced they were buying Bethesda. Fallout 3 and 4, and Oblivion and Skyrim are some of my favorite games, so the thought of a future without those games on my preferred platform was not a good one. Since then, I've realized I can live without them if that's what it takes, and seeing how Starfield turned out, I'm confident in that. Even if they release Starfield on PlayStation in the future, I won't be buying it unless I can get it on a deep sale and/or used. Fuck Microsoft, fuck Phil Spencer, and fuck Xbox.

I feel the same way, but for an additional reason too. Skyrim just released an update, a new version (with paid mods). I was playing (vanilla) earlier today on PS4 and my internet went down. The game froze in the pause menu. So, I restarted it and it just kept loading the title screen but wouldn't start. I had to go into settings and manually disconnect from the internet and then the game immediately started. The technical issues with their games are just frustrating at this point and negatively impact the whole experience. I don't see this improving with being MS first party either. For example, Starfield has an extensive list of bugs and I expect any future releases to continue this pattern.
 

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Feels like the quote is a bunch of nothing. They will probably try and force gamepass onto other platforms
 

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After the NPD and Europe sales results and the rumored Next-Gen Xbox console, it seems like Xbox fans are now waiting for the next generation to start.
 
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I look at these two products and see two versions of the same thing. To claim that one is a "console" and the other a "PC" is lunacy. They're clearly two competing types of the same thing.
You see it as a console… consumers not.
Sales tells a lot about that.

If it was a console it sales are below what is considered a big failure.

PS5 is a console.
Switch is a portable/handheld console.
Steam Deck is a portable/handheld PC.

And it is not even the first… GPS Win 3 and others existed before Steam Deck.
 
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I got roasted in my gaming group text for calling bethesda games overrated before starfield came out. No one's roasting that take anymore lel

I've been feeling this since Fallout 3, I couldn't fathom how people were able to take that game seriously, from its simplistic take on what an RPG is supposed to be, from the way it looked, and even the fact that it was so unbelievably buggy.

I doubled down on it when I saw Dragon's Dogma be swept under the pop-culture rug due to Skyrim's popularity. I felt like I was taking crazy pills then. I figured that I must be thinking about this the wrong way, that maybe Bethesda's games were fulfilling some niche that I just didn't understand.

It's kinda vindicating that people finally see what I was seeing then lol.

Jez is a major fanboy himself. One of the ones hoping for Xbox to eliminate Playstation.

Yeah, you could tell how his narratives, and those of his followers, have shifted since the ABK acquisition lawsuit.

First, it was about how the acquisition would save ABK's poor employees from exploitation. Now, any mention of exploitation occurring within ABK or anywhere else is considered FUD about Xbox, with a nice side dish of calling people SJWs when they point out how fucked up it was for Zenimax to fire a transgender employee for having the audacity to ask if she could take PTO for her surgery.

Then, it was about freedom, so that more players could play games anywhere and for cheaper -- no more Sony moneyhats! Exclusivity is bad for the consumer! Remember that? Now, they say that talks of Xbox's first party outings being multiplatform is "hopium" by fanboys of the other competitors.

It went from, "Sony is monopolistic and must be held in check!", to, "any attempt at scrutinizing this acquisition is just a waste of taxpayer money!" That is until it was Sony being scrutinized for having the audacity to price things the same as every other store. Then it suddenly is good that government agencies get involved in the industry.

It's all so exhausting to keep up with, and almost seems carefully designed by some marketing team to train their audience to deflect from the reality of the insane market moves this trillion-dollar company is making.
 

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I've been feeling this since Fallout 3, I couldn't fathom how people were able to take that game seriously, from its simplistic take on what an RPG is supposed to be, from the way it looked, and even the fact that it was so unbelievably buggy.

I doubled down on it when I saw Dragon's Dogma be swept under the pop-culture rug due to Skyrim's popularity. I felt like I was taking crazy pills then. I figured that I must be thinking about this the wrong way, that maybe Bethesda's games were fulfilling some niche that I just didn't understand.

It's kinda vindicating that people finally see what I was seeing then lol.



Yeah, you could tell how his narratives, and those of his followers, have shifted since the ABK acquisition lawsuit.

First, it was about how the acquisition would save ABK's poor employees from exploitation. Now, any mention of exploitation occurring within ABK or anywhere else is considered FUD about Xbox, with a nice side dish of calling people SJWs when they point out how fucked up it was for Zenimax to fire a transgender employee for having the audacity to ask if she could take PTO for her surgery.

Then, it was about freedom, so that more players could play games anywhere and for cheaper -- no more Sony moneyhats! Exclusivity is bad for the consumer! Remember that? Now, they say that talks of Xbox's first party outings being multiplatform is "hopium" by fanboys of the other competitors.

It went from, "Sony is monopolistic and must be held in check!", to, "any attempt at scrutinizing this acquisition is just a waste of taxpayer money!" That is until it was Sony being scrutinized for having the audacity to price things the same as every other store. Then it suddenly is good that government agencies get involved in the industry.

It's all so exhausting to keep up with, and almost seems carefully designed by some marketing team to train their audience to deflect from the reality of the insane market moves this trillion-dollar company is making.
The most insane thing is the recent spate of "turns out there was no widespread knowledge of or coverup of sexual assault at ABK after all!" PR pieces in the media recently... sure sure big corporations settle for $54 million over fake allegations all the time. It's so eye roll inducing when you have lawyers like Hoeg cheering on how good things are going for ABK. It's all so fucking transparent and disgusting.