I really hope Pro has a good upgrade for Space Marines 2
It's a game I want to play but in a better state.
It's a game I want to play but in a better state.
European Sales September 2024 | PS5 240K, NSW 66K, XBS 26K
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Nice to see software up 20% YoY and Astro up there. PS5 had an understandable decrease after having passed its sales peak year as normal in the sales cycle of any console, but still keeps a huge distance compared to the other ones, specially Xbox.
Astro Bot bundled for free in any new console = no
They already threw a lot of money to the garbage bin with the team before with games that were money pits, games that didn't sell a shit, games that got cancelled and games they gave away.
This time they should let the studio make money. It they make money will be more likely that Sony will want to grow the studio. If they keep giving away for free their stuff Sony may end wanting to shut it down.
As of now, Astro Bot seems to be on track to become the best selling internally developed Team Asobi/Japan Studio/Sony Computer Entertainment Japan ever. So it would be good for them to allow them to do so, and to don't include it too early in PS+ or free with the console.
They have many big sellers coming soon like GTA6, plus soon some other top sellers will be next gen only. Next year we may end seeing MS putting some of their key games like Gears or Halo on PS, which I assume will further kill the Xbox hardware. All these things combined will help them continue having great sales.
They have to be careful with their profitability to make sure they can continue having some big game tanking or getting cancelled from time to time without causing any issue, plus also "saving money" for when late next year they sell their banks division and pretty likely then they go back to continue with acquisitions, maybe early 2026.
Sure, a price cut would help, in different areas, but their priority as of now is to improve profitability in the short term and control in some way the loses generated per hardware unit sold.
PS5 + Astro Bot optional bundle, having the option of buying the console alone = yes
Astro Bot bundled for free in any new console = no
They already threw a lot of money to the garbage bin with the team before with games that were money pits, games that didn't sell a shit, games that got cancelled and games they gave away.
This time they should let the studio make money. It they make money will be more likely that Sony will want to grow the studio. If they keep giving away for free their stuff Sony may end wanting to shut it down.
As of now, Astro Bot seems to be on track to become the best selling internally developed Team Asobi/Japan Studio/Sony Computer Entertainment Japan ever. So it would be good for them to allow them to do so, and to don't include it too early in PS+ or free with the console.
This is not true at all. Valve released many games since 1995, including multiple Half-Life and Counter-Strike games https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Valve_games
Hardware isn't sitting on shelves, they are market leaders outselling Xbox almost 10:1.
They have many big sellers coming soon like GTA6, plus soon some other top sellers will be next gen only. Next year we may end seeing MS putting some of their key games like Gears or Halo on PS, which I assume will further kill the Xbox hardware. All these things combined will help them continue having great sales.
They have to be careful with their profitability to make sure they can continue having some big game tanking or getting cancelled from time to time without causing any issue, plus also "saving money" for when late next year they sell their banks division and pretty likely then they go back to continue with acquisitions, maybe early 2026.
Sure, a price cut would help, in different areas, but their priority as of now is to improve profitability in the short term and control in some way the loses generated per hardware unit sold.
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Again not bad tbh... As long as the numbers are decent so is that better than nothing until it starts hopefully getting better in 2025 etc.!European GSD September 2024 Top 10 (Digital + Physical)
Position Title 1 EA Sports FC 25 (EA) 2 The Crew 2 (Ubisoft) 3 Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 (Pullup Entertainment) 4 Astro Bot (Sony) 5 Hogwarts Legacy (Warner Bros) 6 NBA 2K25 (2K Games) 7 Grand Theft Auto 5 (Rockstar) 8 The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom (Nintendo)* 9 The Crew Motorfest (Ubisoft) 10 Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown (Big Ben) 
Video game sales jump 20% in Europe during September | European Monthly Report
17.6 million PC and console games were sold across Europe last month, according to the latest GSD figures.www.gamesindustry.biz
You say that like it's a bad thing. This is a high-polished AA game, but still a AA game all the same. It has a budget under $100 million, including marketing. We can infer that much. It's also a new IP to the vast majority, as they probably didn't play the PSVR game and might've even skipped Astro's Playroom since they had other games to play around launch or whatever.
Even if it "only" does 5 million, that's still great for a AA game that's basically a new IP in a genre completely dominated by Mario & Sonic.
When you hear things and assume that they're negative, you should re-evaluate how you consume information.
5 million is great for a game like this, but as GOTY it has potential to hit higher levels than that.
I think this game by itself suggests that Sony should release a new PS5 SKU based on 5nm and PSSR to shoot for an entry level PS5 at closer to 300 dollars. If they're going to keep the PS5 around for another 4 years, they need to look for cost cutting opportunities.
For Microsoft, not Xbox, and those are both declining markets, so not much of an opportunity
PC will grow, just like Consoles will grow. Its up to the Platforms to bing new players and old players to the platform
But its not like MS is gonna win Europe because of PC’s. This is just daft
Seen some worries about EU in general but these numbers shows Sony is not worried at all.
They do discounts for a limited time frame several times a year instead of a permanent one (obvious strategy change from the PS hits days)
If you think about it a Switch/Switch Oled is 290-330 and Series S at 350 vs a PS5 digital with these promotions at 399. No pressure at all.
From a business side they know they have Marathon, Monster Hunter and GTA6 coming next year. They can coast off these alone for another year despite competition of new hardware and that's discounting all other (1st party) titles.
Assuming Jim Ryan did what he does (for GTA6) they have the marketing, bundles and best version on console with the Pro for these titles.
On top of that in EU they know the moment FIFA/EA FC and CoD move to current gen only (2026?) that will shift another huge amount of (last-gen) users to PS5. When hardware of competitors show signals of threat, by that time they can easily drop (time windowed) the digital to 299 with a massive library, this is also for those that have the barrier of entry due to price.
It's basically a wrap this gen.
They do discounts for a limited time frame several times a year instead of a permanent one (obvious strategy change from the PS hits days)
If you think about it a Switch/Switch Oled is 290-330 and Series S at 350 vs a PS5 digital with these promotions at 399. No pressure at all.
From a business side they know they have Marathon, Monster Hunter and GTA6 coming next year. They can coast off these alone for another year despite competition of new hardware and that's discounting all other (1st party) titles.
Assuming Jim Ryan did what he does (for GTA6) they have the marketing, bundles and best version on console with the Pro for these titles.
On top of that in EU they know the moment FIFA/EA FC and CoD move to current gen only (2026?) that will shift another huge amount of (last-gen) users to PS5. When hardware of competitors show signals of threat, by that time they can easily drop (time windowed) the digital to 299 with a massive library, this is also for those that have the barrier of entry due to price.
It's basically a wrap this gen.
Check how this dweeb tries to frame it in percentages when the reality is PS5 sold 2.6 X the amount of Xbox and Switches combined
He talks about Starfield as if it was a big month but Starfield month was also 35% down. He knows most people won't know that so it's pure damage control to make it look better.
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Another reason why Sony should see the PC as a competitor.
Makes sense for Sony to team up with Apple and cut android and windows out of the loop.
Maybe a trifecta with steam offering PSN/iOS support
Well there needs to be some actual strategy. Not just.. "putting our games on steam will make money" without thinking of the long-term implications.
I believe they use PC as a way to fluff numbers for the investors. HD2 was/is hailed as a huge success for playstation, even though 50% of the numbers come from Steam. Would it be as big of a success without the steam numbers?
Not to the investors it wouldn't have been.
Line must go up.
If, they can use Apple to push numbers, then it helps both Apple and Sony. I'll standby my belief that by the end of this generation, a huge shake-up of the industry will occur.
> The opportunity for Xbox in Europe is really around PC and mobile
oh blimey, translated from British English to American English...
> Xbox is toast in the European console market
