FF XVI Demo is out

Shmunter

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Nah, that’s a silly remark. It could have diversity, it’s a fantasy gaming, it doesn’t need to be geographically or historically accurate, there are monsters and fire birds.
THAT SAID:
Devs should have the freedom to include whatever characters they want to include.
The mistake these people ALWAYS make is expecting American, Japanese and European white and male developers to put diverse characters on their games. They’re not doing it. And what’s worse, if they do it, it’s in a stereotypical way. The solution to this problem is not forcing develoeprs to put these characters but to the people that fall into the diverse categories to start developing games. That’s the main reason you have lots of these in movies and shows now, these people are the creators now.
It’s the only viable solution.
I guarantee it that the game would have diverse characters if the developers were diverse, but alas, they’re Japanese. It is what it is.
That said, I’m there day two because I’m paying for swift concert tickets this month 😂
Fantasy is no excuse for not grounding a setting in appropriate geography or time period. Cohesion is all important in selling a story or impact is lessened. The premise of fantasy so anything goes is as ridiculous as it gets and pushed by idiots with an agenda. This applies to ethnicity, architecture, technology, character behaviours, etc etc.

If I’m playing AC origins, I’m not expecting Mexicans eating tacos, or kids playing on basketball courts.


Here we go, going to have to stop visiting this site….

 

KiryuRealty

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Where it’s at.
Fantasy is no excuse for not grounding a setting in appropriate geography or time period. Cohesion is all important in selling a story or impact is lessened. The premise of fantasy so anything goes is as ridiculous as it gets and pushed by idiots with an agenda. This applies to ethnicity, architecture, technology, character behaviours, etc etc.

If I’m playing AC origins, I’m not expecting Mexicans eating tacos, or kids playing on basketball courts.


Here we go, going to have to stop visiting this site….

"Diversity" in modern terms is NOT a pursuit of reflecting the real world, it is about straight white male erasure in media. Casting quotas, voice acting "Authenticity" rules, race and gender-swapping existing characters, it is all culture war bullshit.
 
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Fantasy is no excuse for not grounding a setting in appropriate geography or time period. Cohesion is all important in selling a story or impact is lessened. The premise of fantasy so anything goes is as ridiculous as it gets and pushed by idiots with an agenda. This applies to ethnicity, architecture, technology, character behaviours, etc etc.

If I’m playing AC origins, I’m not expecting Mexicans eating tacos, or kids playing on basketball courts.


Here we go, going to have to stop visiting this site….

It's getting ridiculous that people are throwing fits because a game they obviously have an interest in don't have characters of a certain race in it. Plus the quoted comment that someone compared this with Starfield, Dragons Dogma 2 that the narrative is driven around a no name character with a character creator. I mean it's tge devs choice or not to include them. Eurogamer has gotten pretty bad lately.
 
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It's getting ridiculous that people are throwing fits because a game they obviously have an interest in don't have characters of a certain race in it. Plus the quoted comment that someone compared this with Starfield, Dragons Dogma 2 that the narrative is driven around a no name character with a character creator. I mean it's tge devs choice or not to include them. Eurogamer has gotten pretty bad lately.
Lately? It has been shit since 2008 at least. The online equivalent of Edge magazine.
 

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Fantasy is no excuse for not grounding a setting in appropriate geography or time period. Cohesion is all important in selling a story or impact is lessened. The premise of fantasy so anything goes is as ridiculous as it gets and pushed by idiots with an agenda. This applies to ethnicity, architecture, technology, character behaviours, etc etc.

If I’m playing AC origins, I’m not expecting Mexicans eating tacos, or kids playing on basketball courts.


Here we go, going to have to stop visiting this site….

Some players aka xbots disguised as white knights. White people are weird
 
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Fantasy is no excuse for not grounding a setting in appropriate geography or time period. Cohesion is all important in selling a story or impact is lessened. The premise of fantasy so anything goes is as ridiculous as it gets and pushed by idiots with an agenda. This applies to ethnicity, architecture, technology, character behaviours, etc etc.

If I’m playing AC origins, I’m not expecting Mexicans eating tacos, or kids playing on basketball courts.


Here we go, going to have to stop visiting this site….

They took that thread that was locked from Resetera and create a whole article about it just to manufacture more outrage? Eurogamer is trash. Digital Foundry is clearly biased so that whole site should go down.
 

Shmunter

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"Diversity" in modern terms is NOT a pursuit of reflecting the real world, it is about straight white male erasure in media. Casting quotas, voice acting "Authenticity" rules, race and gender-swapping existing characters, it is all culture war bullshit.
Yes, it all about taking down the dominant culture for equality at all costs. These idiots have no idea that their freedom to be insufferable narcissists is a result of the tolerance that very culture affords them. Unlike all the other alternatives on the planet,
 
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Are some people trying to boycott this game too? Yeah, that worked wonders for Hogwarts Legacy.
 

KiryuRealty

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Where it’s at.
Era has a problem with every game that's Playstation exclusive.This is just the latest reason they've invented.
They’re fighting White and Asian privilege by hating Sony!

And only MS pays as much for astroturfing as they are willing to accept. Lattes ain’t cheap, fam!

Also, they live in a twisted fantasy world where somehow Sony has done all the things only MS has done, and only they, the knights of Social Justice have seen the truth!
 
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Older Clive looks fine

Somebody at Square Enix always seems to tell producers that the main character needs to be pretty. It's the only reason Vaan exists

They probably compromised by giving the young Clive section more of that traditional boyband look

Older Clive just looks cool
All of the characters have a strong anime look, including older Clive.
 

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Fantasy is no excuse for not grounding a setting in appropriate geography or time period. Cohesion is all important in selling a story or impact is lessened. The premise of fantasy so anything goes is as ridiculous as it gets and pushed by idiots with an agenda. This applies to ethnicity, architecture, technology, character behaviours, etc etc.

If I’m playing AC origins, I’m not expecting Mexicans eating tacos, or kids playing on basketball courts.


Here we go, going to have to stop visiting this site….

Like I said, lame excuse, nobody would care. It’s not a real setting, nor a real historical place, there are flame birds. You can parrot this as long as you want, nothing changes.
Regardless, devs are free to do whatever they want.
 

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I just have one question. The second part of the demo is from the main game right?
Because i don't want to play that