Former Director Of Business Square Enix Jacob Navok: “Let's be clear- I am not suggesting Xbox sales by themselves can radically change the numbers.”

[Eternal_Wings]

Former Director Of Business Square Enix Jacob Navok:

"PlayStation has a huge line-up of titles. And many upcoming, highly anticipated first party titles. They are great titles, of which the FF series is now one of many high quality titles that Sony promotes."

"This is why Kiryu's first decision was to bring back Xbox support. Let's be clear- I am not suggesting Xbox sales by themselves can radically change the numbers. We know how the series has sold on Xbox traditionally."

"Rather, the point is that you need multiple platforms promoting, pushing your product and incentivized toward its success."

"An FF title having its latest gameplay revealed in another State of Play doesn't expand the audience. But Xbox putting out billboards for your title in Times Square can drive more awareness (even if it probably leads to sales on PlayStation rather than Xbox, this is still good for SQEX.)"

 

[AshHunter216]

Using Microsoft to help sell more copies on Playstation, interesting. He also said what we've all known. Jrpgs don't sell on Xbox.

 

[anonpuffs]

What's in it for Playstation to keep paying square then?

 

[Eternal_Wings]

This just strengthens my thinking that Sony will acquire them in 2024.
That’s a no brainer for Sony.

 

[AshHunter216]

What's in it for Playstation to keep paying square then?

Having first dibs on final fantasy makes your platform more appealing.

 

[Puff]

That doesn’t sound good news for PlayStation fans at all

 

[Eternal_Wings]

That doesn’t sound good news for PlayStation fans at all

How come so?
Did you give the text a read?
It’s devastating what he said about Xbox.

 

[anonpuffs]

Having first dibs on final fantasy makes your platform more appealing.

Sure, but having final fantasy on gamepass later makes it less appealing, and I guarantee you that PoS Spencer will require it as a precondition for advertising.

I'm already not buying future Persona games day one because of the gamepass thing - after all, why would I? Don't make me rethink my day one purchases of final fantasy too.

 

[AshHunter216]

That doesn’t sound good news for PlayStation fans at all

How is it bad for Playstation? He's basically saying their games don't sell well on Xbox and that they rely on Playstation for the bulk of console sales.

 

[AshHunter216]

Sure, but having final fantasy on gamepass later makes it less appealing, and I guarantee you that PoS Spencer will require it as a precondition for advertising.

I'm already not buying future Persona games day one because of the gamepass thing - after all, why would I? Don't make me rethink my day one purchases of final fantasy too.

I'm not convinced Gamepass will be enough to make the majority of people leave the PlayStation ecosystem.

 

[Entropi]

That sounds like one of them pick-up artist techniques. Date multiple women to make them all jealous. I’m not sure what’s supposed to come next, though.

 

[Puff]

"Rather, the point is that you need multiple platforms promoting, pushing your product and incentivized toward its success."

"An FF title having its latest gameplay revealed in another State of Play doesn't expand the audience. But Xbox putting out billboards for your title in Times Square can drive more awareness (even if it probably leads to sales on PlayStation rather than Xbox, this is still good for SQEX.)"

it means that Sony wont get exclusive games for square

 

[anonpuffs]

it means that Sony wont get exclusive games for square

It's interesting that they think xbox advertising will do anything for them. If they want more eyes they need to partner with twitch or apple.

 

[AshHunter216]

it means that Sony wont get exclusive games for square

Not necessarily, nowhere in that statement does it say that they won't ever do deals with PlayStation again. It does imply that they likely won't sell to Microsoft though which I care about more. Take a break from the doomposting and depression posting for a day.

 

[Nimrota]

How is it bad for Playstation? He's basically saying their games don't sell well on Xbox and that they rely on Playstation for the bulk of console sales.

Seems bad because PS fans might realise "Hey I'm the one actually paying for these games and supporting the developers with sales, while Xbox players get the game for free and it's marketed at Xbox." At the end of the day you're a nice little chump stumping up your money to Square Enix while they nickle and dime Xbox for their own profit. This is how I feel about being a Yakuza fan for over a decade and having them do an about turn to slobber all over Xbox. Why should I buy their product if they're going to focus on Xbox? What do I get out of this at all?

 

[AshHunter216]

Seems bad because PS fans might realise "Hey I'm the one actually paying for these games and supporting the developers with sales, while Xbox players get the game for free and it's marketed at Xbox." At the end of the day you're a nice little chump stumping up your money to Square Enix while they nickle and dime Xbox for their own profit. This is how I feel about being a Yakuza fan for over a decade and having them do an about turn to slobber all over Xbox. Why should I buy their product if they're going to focus on Xbox? What do I get out of this at all?

There's a lot of downsides to Gamepass versus actually owning the game. DRM and the fact that it can be removed from the service for one. I guess it just depends on perspective. This news also implies to me that they aren't likely to sell to MS and become exclusive to them.

 

[Would_you_kindly]

Former Director Of Business Square Enix Jacob Navok:

"PlayStation has a huge line-up of titles. And many upcoming, highly anticipated first party titles. They are great titles, of which the FF series is now one of many high quality titles that Sony promotes."

"This is why Kiryu's first decision was to bring back Xbox support. Let's be clear- I am not suggesting Xbox sales by themselves can radically change the numbers. We know how the series has sold on Xbox traditionally."

"Rather, the point is that you need multiple platforms promoting, pushing your product and incentivized toward its success."

"An FF title having its latest gameplay revealed in another State of Play doesn't expand the audience. But Xbox putting out billboards for your title in Times Square can drive more awareness (even if it probably leads to sales on PlayStation rather than Xbox, this is still good for SQEX.)"

You mean like Sony was heavily investing in promoting the series since ps1 hence why it's still a popular franchise today where as Xbox Microsoft have contributed sweet FA to the franchise yet crys that big bad Sony gets exclusives from it

 

[Nimrota]

There's a lot of downsides to Gamepass versus actually owning the game. DRM and the fact that it can be removed from the service for one. I guess it just depends on perspective. This news also implies to me that they aren't likely to sell to MS and become exclusive to them.

It simply cheapens your experience to know someone else got it for free. You buy a nice pair of shoes for $100 and your neighbour says "Oh yeah I got the same pair for $20." There is a psychological element at play here. If Sony fans had any dignity they wouldn't stump up to be some Square paypig, hence why Sony should buy Square so their fans aren't mistreated.

 

[AshHunter216]

It simply cheapens your experience to know someone else got it for free. You buy a nice pair of shoes for $100 and your neighbour says "Oh yeah I got the same pair for $20." There is a psychological element at play here. If Sony fans had any dignity they wouldn't stump up to be some Square paypig, hence why Sony should buy Square so their fans aren't mistreated.

That's not a really good comparison imo. The other guy has to keep paying monthly or he loses his shoes. He also can't trade or sell his shoes. I think you guys may be overselling the impact Gamepass will have on PlayStation.

That's just me personally though. I couldn't care less what that service gets as long as I still get the games I want on my preferred platform. I'm not interested in interpreting everything as a devastating catastrophe.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

we all know this.(except the xbox fanbase of course)