That claim is false because you just not got into the items to see what they are (the MS requests).
Sony requests where most granted and have some minor denied.
Most of MS requests where denied.
FTC Orders Sony to Present All Third Party Agreements From 2019 - Today.
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Sony requests where most granted and have some minor denied.
Most of MS requests where denied.
Can’t you read your own pic.I literally just posted the result sheet showing that the majority of their quashing requests were denied, who the fuck cares what some plebs on twitter are saying
There are 10 GRANTED and 4 DENIED.
About the topic that was exactly what Sony wanted.
Most exclusives from 2019 to now have no issue like for example FFXVI where Sony is helping Square Enix develop the game.
Most exclusives from 2019 to now have no issue like for example FFXVI where Sony is helping Square Enix develop the game.
Wonder how much slice of the 3rd party revenue does land from COD/ Activision/Bliz.
In a wholistic sense no doubt 3rd party funds the company ventures - that’s the whole business model of having an eco system, otherwise you’re just selling your own games like a 3rd party. For a platform holder 1st party should in essence allow for a loss leader in 1st party - a marketing strategy representing hardware, quality and a point of difference to attract users and 3rd party devs. Taking risks on innovation and high spend. See PSVR as most recent example.
Actual footage of adamsapple unsuccessfully reaching for a win.
In Bizarro World, descending means bigger, and ascending smaller.
So 4 > 10. Too bad for Bizarros, we don't live on that planet.
Exactly; Sony could argue that market ventures like PSVR2 are not possible without the revenue of key 3P titles such as COD helping PlayStation operate of its own merit.
And the impact that losing access to marketing terms for COD current as they are currently able to do (with ABK as an independent 3P publisher) could result in a drop of revenue off COD sales for their platform which could impact ventures like PSVR2, among other initiatives of the platform holder.
I dont really see how this is a win that some xbox fans are giddy about online. So what, you’ll find out sooner what games aren’t releasing on xbox?
You mean it will show how with much less than 70B you can compete?
That success can be achieved with partnerships instead of buyouts?
The same deals/partnerships Xbox has been making?
They are trying to frame it as the villain Sony is blocking games from Game Pass but MS have the same kind of marketing deals and third-party exclusives too.
Outriders was Day 1 on GP, did they pay to block it from PS+? The Medium was blocked too? High on Life was blocked from PS+?
You don't see us crying about it.
How many movies is Netflix blocking from Disney+? HBO?
I mean ARK 2 is full on exclusive and the original was on playstation first
They are hoping their some kinda illuminati running ps
Enjoy finding out what you aren't playing on the near future
Better pray this deal goes through. Or else xbox is packing
So it seems like the party line this time is to say omg Sony in trouble. As if them having to provide information on exclusive deals was never going to happen.
Yes, like you are in court and it is just acting like your mouth was ever enough.
Of course court will ask supply reasonable documentations.
In this case majority was denied because it was nothing more than fishing expedition.
Other reasonable were granted.
Trouble in paradise
Sony now has to provide:
-All licensing agreements with 3rd parties since 2019
-Info on Jim Ryan's ABK declaration from Dec 22
-Their lawyer's external comms
-Docs from execs of Finance and Global Strategy
If you think this is terrible news, wait until Sony requests the Billing information for Phil and Greenburgs eating-out receipts.
Now that you mention it, saw some pics with Greenburger and Kojima... Let's hope Kojima isn't eaten....If you think this is terrible news, wait until Sony requests the Billing information for Phil and Greenburgs eating-out receipts.
I don't know if this decision is all that beneficial for Microsoft. I honestly think they shot themselves in the foot with their requests and that Sony prepared themselves quite well. From looking at it, it seems like they threw in arguments, such as SIE’s request to quash document request 3, and SIE’s request to quash document request 35, so that they can use them against Microsoft.
Request 3 is interesting since there would be no need to try and quash Jim Ryan's drafts for communications unless you're trying to get something in return. This makes me believe that Sony can, if they want to (and haven't done so), request any and all official communications from Phil Spencer requiring Bethesda's acquisition, including but not limited to, internal statements that could confirm theories that they lied about Bethesda.
Let's also notice that Sony got granted the request to limit document requests, including requests 14, 19, 22-25, 28, 29, 35, and 43, to the time period January 1, 2019, meaning that for Request 35, they will only have to provide data from that timeframe onwards. We all know they sign exclusive deals, but what they actually entail is still subject to plenty of speculation, however limiting the date to a timeframe where Microsoft themselves resumed the signing of exclusive deals, especially for Gamepass, doesn't seem very innocent to me.
IMO, if they haven't, they now have pretty much carte blanche to have Phil Spencer's communications related to both acquisitions, including any and all internal drafts, plus all the data from Gamepass deals if they so choose to. My gut tells me that while some Sony agreements may be more restrictive, Microsoft agreements provide devs with fewer perks. As we've learned from Final Fantasy, Sony not only gets the exclusive but also use their in-house studios to help elevate the quality of the offering, benefitting consumers.
Request 3 is interesting since there would be no need to try and quash Jim Ryan's drafts for communications unless you're trying to get something in return. This makes me believe that Sony can, if they want to (and haven't done so), request any and all official communications from Phil Spencer requiring Bethesda's acquisition, including but not limited to, internal statements that could confirm theories that they lied about Bethesda.
Let's also notice that Sony got granted the request to limit document requests, including requests 14, 19, 22-25, 28, 29, 35, and 43, to the time period January 1, 2019, meaning that for Request 35, they will only have to provide data from that timeframe onwards. We all know they sign exclusive deals, but what they actually entail is still subject to plenty of speculation, however limiting the date to a timeframe where Microsoft themselves resumed the signing of exclusive deals, especially for Gamepass, doesn't seem very innocent to me.
IMO, if they haven't, they now have pretty much carte blanche to have Phil Spencer's communications related to both acquisitions, including any and all internal drafts, plus all the data from Gamepass deals if they so choose to. My gut tells me that while some Sony agreements may be more restrictive, Microsoft agreements provide devs with fewer perks. As we've learned from Final Fantasy, Sony not only gets the exclusive but also use their in-house studios to help elevate the quality of the offering, benefitting consumers.
Imagine 2 trillion company crying they cant compete. And what these 3p deals have to do with AB deal? Ok, publisher ll get money for marketing, timed exclusivity and such. Technical support and help. MS s doing the same for other games. From pubg, stalker, tomb raider. Can they do more? Sure. Why dont they do it? They used to make deals with remedy, T2 etc. But they have problem cause of laziness of xbox management and smaller market share so publishers dont want to make timed exclusives with xbox so they dont tarnish or destroy IPs in future.
Xbox management:
- created 1 big ip in 20 years, Forza
- destroyed own biggest ip Halo along with studio
- obviously have huge problem with keeping talent, creativity, publishing ips majority of market dont care about
- little to none marketing worldwide
- no official support in bunch of EU countries, let alone WW
- iirc only have offices in Singapure for that part of Asia. Have to provide support for bunch of countries. Huge logistical problems
- dont have xbox store for bunch of countries, let alone localisation, support, retail help etc.
- created model with GP so retailers cant make money.
Everything can be fixed and improved if they actually care about market. Every1 knows they re in industry to stop sony or others from controling living room and they dont give damn about industry.
Xbox management:
- created 1 big ip in 20 years, Forza
- destroyed own biggest ip Halo along with studio
- obviously have huge problem with keeping talent, creativity, publishing ips majority of market dont care about
- little to none marketing worldwide
- no official support in bunch of EU countries, let alone WW
- iirc only have offices in Singapure for that part of Asia. Have to provide support for bunch of countries. Huge logistical problems
- dont have xbox store for bunch of countries, let alone localisation, support, retail help etc.
- created model with GP so retailers cant make money.
Everything can be fixed and improved if they actually care about market. Every1 knows they re in industry to stop sony or others from controling living room and they dont give damn about industry.