God of War Ragnarok with Neutral reviews on Steam because the game can't run on PCs with less than 6 GB of VRAM (Update: Also because of forced PSN)

[Systemshock2023]

I see this brought up a lot lately. That there will still be this push of cringe down our throats indefinitely. This may be indeed be the case for many institutions sure.

But… they’re making less money and in 2024 the flops flopped bigger than ever. There will be a course correction especially considering how massively a Wukong or Helldivers popped off.

“Top scars” is kinda where I draw the line in the industry. Especially when the series also takes a more cartoony visually art direction making it look more like child friendly and Fortnite at the same time. I was going to buy it and am now not going to… problem solved. No crusade necessary.

The thing is that game development cycles are so long... these games we are seeing now we're on the drawing board when woke and DEI were peaking in the late 10s. Or at least when people didn't understand yet that it was a scam. The pendulum has swung the other way now. Folks are tired of being told they are terrible people for having common sense,specially by celebrities or the media the consume.

Hopefully I am wrong but a significant casualty would be GTA VI. Specially a series famous for its satire. What will they reference now? Will it be neutered by political correctness? Have a strong woman and an eunuch of a man as main characters? Thats extremely predictable these days.

Will it have humour about COVID 19? That's old news. And a woke game in 2025 or 2026 when released for PC is going to feel extremely passe.

 

[Landiri]

I am honestly surprised, that gamers out of all audiences, are so strong at resisting DEI/Woke with their wallet!

 

[Plextorage]

So, about review bombing.... But looks like people are review bombing it deliberately. Buying a game, playing for 10 minutes and give it a bad score and ask for a refund. That kind of review is counting as legit user score in overall score, but, review is labeled as "product refunded" later. And "refunded" bad score isn't different in any way like who gave a bad score but played it for hours. But anyway, translated to English. You will see it here in posts

God of War Ragnarök je još jedna žrtva bombardiranja recenzijama na Steamu

I dok su svojevremeno slovile za sjajan dodatak preko kojeg ste često najzornije mogli dobiti predodžbu (ne)kvalitete neke igre, skupine igrača nastavljaju u...

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[Landiri]

So, about review bombing.... But looks like people are review bombing it deliberately. Buying a game, playing for 10 minutes and give it a bad score and ask for a refund. That kind of review is counting as legit user score in overall score, but, review is labeled as "product refunded" later. And "refunded" bad score isn't different in any way like who gave a bad score but played it for hours. But anyway, translated to English. You will see it here in posts

God of War Ragnarök je još jedna žrtva bombardiranja recenzijama na Steamu

I dok su svojevremeno slovile za sjajan dodatak preko kojeg ste često najzornije mogli dobiti predodžbu (ne)kvalitete neke igre, skupine igrača nastavljaju u...

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Steam refund system is massively flawed.

They should do it like PS, where you have to go through customer support, and checked on a case by case basis everytime, preventing abuse!

 

[FatKaz]

So, about review bombing.... But looks like people are review bombing it deliberately. Buying a game, playing for 10 minutes and give it a bad score and ask for a refund. That kind of review is counting as legit user score in overall score, but, review is labeled as "product refunded" later. And "refunded" bad score isn't different in any way like who gave a bad score but played it for hours. But anyway, translated to English. You will see it here in posts

God of War Ragnarök je još jedna žrtva bombardiranja recenzijama na Steamu

I dok su svojevremeno slovile za sjajan dodatak preko kojeg ste često najzornije mogli dobiti predodžbu (ne)kvalitete neke igre, skupine igrača nastavljaju u...

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It's what Sony deserves.

 

[Exicide]

That kind of review is counting as legit user score in overall score,

Steam refund system is massively flawed.

Why do you both feel the need to outright lie? It has been known for years now that refunded reviews do NOT count to the overall score, both positive and negative don't count if the reviewer refunds the copy, the review will remain to be read but it will be labeled as refunded.

Steam's refund system is actually sensible and consumer friendly compared to PS and Xbox's outrageous terms.

PSN:​

• Content has not been downloaded or streamed.
• Refund request has been made within 14 days of the purchase.
  
  Xbox:

• Refunds are typically issued for requests made within 14 days of the purchase date for games in which you haven’t accumulated a significant amount of play time.
• For single-use items (like consumables and in-game currency), your request is likely eligible only if the consumable was not redeemed or used.
• There are often limits on the number and type of refunds allowed and the monetary compensation that we can provide to each purchaser in a given year.
• If you don’t have access to the account that made the purchase, you’ll need to contact your financial institution for a refund.
• We provide digital game product refunds as part of a consistent and reliable buying experience. However, if it appears refunds are being abused, we reserve the right to stop offering refunds except where legally required.
  
  Steam:
  
  
• Valve will, upon request via help.steampowered.com, issue a refund for any title that is requested within 14 days of purchase and has been played for less than 2 hours (this includes online, offline and shared library playtime). Even if you fall outside of the refund rules we've described, you can submit a request and we'll take a look at it.

 

[Systemshock2023]

Sony customer service is utter trash and the worst in gaming by a country mile. That is one of the reasons PC gamers don't want much to do with Sony. We have heard enough horror stories from PS owning friends and the internet how they go the extra mile to avoid you of you aren't an "elite" customer.

The mindset with Sony is "leave your games at the door, send us your bank account to transfer and GTFO"

 

[Muddasar]

Sony customer service is utter trash and the worst in gaming by a country mile. That is one of the reasons PC gamers don't want much to do with Sony. We have heard enough horror stories from PS owning friends and the internet how they go the extra mile to avoid you of you aren't an "elite" customer.

The mindset with Sony is "leave your games at the door, send us your bank account to transfer and GTFO"

Another excuse.

 

[Landiri]

Steam's refund system is actually sensible and consumer friendly compared to PS and Xbox's outrageous terms.

It is just easy to abuse.

The reason they even have this, is because of the dozens of shovelware/scam games released on the platform every week, which would cause way too many support requests, if not handled automatically!

Steam has more cash-grab garbage than all other storefronts combined (except mobile).

 

[Plextorage]

Why do you both feel the need to outright lie? It has been known for years now that refunded reviews do NOT count to the overall score, both positive and negative don't count if the reviewer refunds the copy, the review will remain to be read but it will be labeled as refunded.

Steam's refund system is actually sensible and consumer friendly compared to PS and Xbox's outrageous terms.

PSN:​

• Content has not been downloaded or streamed.
• Refund request has been made within 14 days of the purchase.
  
  Xbox:
• Refunds are typically issued for requests made within 14 days of the purchase date for games in which you haven’t accumulated a significant amount of play time.
• For single-use items (like consumables and in-game currency), your request is likely eligible only if the consumable was not redeemed or used.
• There are often limits on the number and type of refunds allowed and the monetary compensation that we can provide to each purchaser in a given year.
• If you don’t have access to the account that made the purchase, you’ll need to contact your financial institution for a refund.
• We provide digital game product refunds as part of a consistent and reliable buying experience. However, if it appears refunds are being abused, we reserve the right to stop offering refunds except where legally required.
  
  Steam:
  
  
• Valve will, upon request via help.steampowered.com, issue a refund for any title that is requested within 14 days of purchase and has been played for less than 2 hours (this includes online, offline and shared library playtime). Even if you fall outside of the refund rules we've described, you can submit a request and we'll take a look at it.

Nope. A literally post from the link

Yes, the question was whether such reviews are included in the statistics. The answer according to the test is that they enter. Anyone can buy a game, run it for a second, give it a negative rating and get a refund. Such a review is valid and affects the steam rating. It will only have Product refunded written on it, which you will see if you open it in a targeted manner, but there is no indication in the group statistics that this review is in any way different from someone who played the game.

It DOES AFFECT review score despite review is labeled "refunded". Even if review stop being legit after some time ( few weeks), damage is already done.

 

[Deto]

Sony customer service is utter trash and the worst in gaming by a country mile. That is one of the reasons PC gamers don't want much to do with Sony. We have heard enough horror stories from PS owning friends and the internet how they go the extra mile to avoid you of you aren't an "elite" customer.

The mindset with Sony is "leave your games at the door, send us your bank account to transfer and GTFO"

The best refund policy is physical media.
It's incredible, you can play 500 hours for 5 years and resell it for the same price you paid when you bought it used

I sold my copy of Demon's Souls (PS3) for more than I paid for it

Don't come with this elitist and arrogant stance. Those who play on PC are idiots for having accepted the end of physical media.

PSN + Physical Media >>>>>>> Gabe Newell personally doing Refund with 1h of gameplay

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Sony customer service is utter trash and the worst in gaming by a country mile. That is one of the reasons PC gamers don't want much to do with Sony. We have heard enough horror stories from PS owning friends and the internet how they go the extra mile to avoid you of you aren't an "elite" customer.

The mindset with Sony is "leave your games at the door, send us your bank account to transfer and GTFO"

As if you have to deal with Sony customer service when you buy a game on Steam

I'm sure this doesn't even cross your mind when you buy a game from a random publisher in a foreign country or a defunct company that doesn't even exist anymore with zero support. There's always an excuse for big bad Sony. You guys are an embarrassment to the human species.

 

[Gediminas]

The best refund policy is physical media.
It's incredible, you can play 500 hours for 5 years and resell it for the same price you paid when you bought it used

I sold my copy of Demon's Souls (PS3) for more than I paid for it

Don't come with this elitist and arrogant stance. Those who play on PC are idiots for having accepted the end of physical media.

PSN + Physical Media >>>>>>> Gabe Newell personally doing Refund with 1h of gameplay

Don't make to much sense, otherwise they glitch

 

[Landiri]

Don't make to much sense, otherwise they glitch

 

[arvfab]

So, about review bombing.... But looks like people are review bombing it deliberately. Buying a game, playing for 10 minutes and give it a bad score and ask for a refund. That kind of review is counting as legit user score in overall score, but, review is labeled as "product refunded" later. And "refunded" bad score isn't different in any way like who gave a bad score but played it for hours. But anyway, translated to English. You will see it here in posts

God of War Ragnarök je još jedna žrtva bombardiranja recenzijama na Steamu

I dok su svojevremeno slovile za sjajan dodatak preko kojeg ste često najzornije mogli dobiti predodžbu (ne)kvalitete neke igre, skupine igrača nastavljaju u...

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Cool, might buy HD2 and refund it after leaving a negative review:

"Refunded it because PSN linking wasn't mandatory"

 

[Plextorage]

God of War: Ragnarok Mod removes the PSN account requirement

In just a matter of days, a mod surfaced for God of War: Ragnarok that removes its PSN account requirement.

www.dsogaming.com

LOL

 

[ApolloHelios]

It's what Sony deserves.

Kaz honestly fuck your petty attitude!

 

[Bryank75]

Cool, might buy HD2 and refund it after leaving a negative review:

"Refunded it because PSN linking wasn't mandatory"

This is the innovation I want to see.

 

[Exicide]

It is just easy to abuse.

The reason they even have this, is because of the dozens of shovelware/scam games released on the platform every week, which would cause way too many support requests, if not handled automatically!

Steam has more cash-grab garbage than all other storefronts combined (except mobile).

Its been like this way before scam games were prevalent on the platform. You can abuse it if you wanted but the refunded reviews won't count to the score.

 

[Exicide]

"Yes, the question was whether such reviews are included in the statistics. The answer according to the test is that they enter. Anyone can buy a game, run it for a second, give it a negative rating and get a refund. Such a review is valid and affects the steam rating. It will only have Product refunded written on it, which you will see if you open it in a targeted manner, but there is no indication in the group statistics that this review is in any way different from someone who played the game."

where do you see this @Plextorage ? I can't find this on that link or even when I google search any of the sentences.