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Talk about duhhh
Helldivers 2 passed Destiny 2 all time CCU count. Top Seller all around on Steam |UP|Beats Dragon’s Dogma 2 to Reclaim #1 spot on Steam.
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It's always been my belief that co-op/PVE is the way to go fo GaaS. Both things that made palworld and helldivers a hit.
Concord and fairgame$ both being PvP makes it a harder sell to leave behind fortnite and CoD. Just look at the finals. Started off strong but then died.
Technically they failed with Destruction all stars and factions 2
“New Live Service Strategy”.
The so called 12 live service games.
Helldivers 2 is the first game in it to be released.
Destruction All Stars isn’t included and not sure why you are including Factions 2 as a failure. It never released though it was part of the 12.
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Factions 2 was cancelled, not a failure
Correct.
And destruction all stars wasn’t part of the new live service strategy of 12 games.
So, it is failure. Cancelled means failure to produce the game.
As they spend tens of millions without any returns.
Helldivers 2 predates Jim Ryan's GAAS initiative. And yes destruction all stars was their first GAAS flop under the PS5 gen banner.
I think the implication here is games releasing and not finding an audience.
Predates it yes.
Helldivers is the first game to release since Sony announced their new live service strategy.
The so called 12 games.
Destruction all stars was released before it was announced and isn’t included.
I can confidently say Factions 2 would have been a success too initially like HD2 currently is.
The issue it had was supposedly longevity and whether ND had the resources to continue to support it.
Thats like saying the spider-man multipalyer game failed because they aren’t making it anymore lol
The only thing we got from either game (unofficially from Insomniac) were concept arts
Factions didn’t even have an official name, it’s not a failure. It was cancelled because they didn’t want a failure on naughty dogs record
The only thing we got from either game (unofficially from Insomniac) were concept arts
Factions didn’t even have an official name, it’s not a failure. It was cancelled because they didn’t want a failure on naughty dogs record
Gran Turismo 7 and MLB are also hits.
No, MLB, Gran Turismo 7, Firewall Ultra are also GaaS and part of the 12 GaaS initiative.
It isn't Jim Ryan's initiative. Most of the 12 GaaS games weren't greenlighted by him and Hermen, they were already under production when they stepped in or were being made before signed with Sony.
Most of the games we know were greenlighted by him and Hermen (meaning, after mid 2019) aren't GaaS.
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Very likely yes.
This stuff is very hard, so they have to do it step by step. First to get used to get successful with GaaS that generate enough money with non-launch stuff to fund a AAA game.
Once they achieve that, can go Plus/F2P.
In fact some of these paid GaaS, years after launch if they are pretty successful and don't sell anymore they could be moved to Plus/F2P to get additional users.
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I could be wrong but I believe Fairgame$ is PvEvP, like a glorified Gambit mode in Destiny 2 accept with 4 teams of 4 instead of just 2 teams
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Though Concord is PvP... if they can knock it out the park and provide a fresh but enjoyable experience it has the potential to be another breakout hit. The market is starved for GOOD shooters in general and Sony is prime to capitalize off this if they can get it right and connect with the audience.
I tend to agree, what's the last big FPS hit on consoles? Apex? That's 2019.
Yeah and that's reached it's peak too. That's why I know for sure Factions would have blown up as there's nothing like it out there too that would offer gunplay, traversal combat and stealth.
I've always had high hopes for Concord so I'm def looking forward to it. I think it's gonna be their Fall exclusive.