Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered flops on Steam

voke

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Prove it. Demonstrate which PS CEO had or hadn't power in the grand scheme of things.

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My point clearly went far over your head. I am saying blaming one person for all the issues in a company that employs over 10,000 people is ridiculous. They have power obviously... but do you think these suits are getting in the office making demands for how THEY want it to go? absolutely not. They are a puppet for the overall conglomerate, nothing more nothing less. It's likely in their job description.

So to come in a forum and yell HERMANNNNNN even though dude is likely just doing the job and is getting paid for it, useless bitching seems unnecessary to me. I remember Nintendo fans doing it to Iwata, then he died and everyone changed course.
 
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Because everybody knows it's not worth the price of admission again.

Only if you have the original and want a few upgrades. Not much people waiting for that. This game was beautiful when it came out and still is. No need for a slight upgrade.

This should have been 30 for the full game and 5 for the upgrade.
Anything more should be considered pure greed.

Sony used to have their "Platinum" range. Full games for half price. Sometimes when applicable, with bonus content included. Look how far they've sunk.

Greed isn't good.

Now, look at Metal Gear Solid 3. THIS game can do with a makeover, which it's rightfully getting.

This HZD "upgrade" has no right of existing yet. Come back in 5 years when tech is way beyond what we have now.
 
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Its up to them if they wanna do it and mess up. What exactly has impacted console releases though?

The Lego game is the only thing I dont care about going multiplatform. Its 3rd party.

Id rather keep SP games, Remakes/Remasters and Gaas exclusive to PS. Like PS2/PS3/PS4 days of online MP. Everything should be exclusive.
Lego Horizon comes out the same time as the PS5 Pro. It made so much sense to keep it exclusive (along with the Remastered) and do something fun with it for promos, astrobot family bundles or pack-in, etc. It will be a reverberating multiplat flop instead with more CCU threads.

I know I can play it on my cheap laptop so I'll wait for a deep sale or PS+.

Man, I thought you were above the Sony doomer shitposting
Bryan was the OG but he had to change his personality here 😅
 

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Lego Horizon comes out the same time as the PS5 Pro. It made so much sense to keep it exclusive (along with the Remastered) and do something fun with it for promos, astrobot family bundles or pack-in, etc. It will be a reverberating multiplat flop instead with more CCU threads.

I know I can play it on my cheap laptop so I'll wait for a deep sale or PS+.


Bryan was the OG but he had to change his personality here 😅
It'll be on PS+ by next summer, just wait it out and don't give them a dime extra 😁
 

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My point clearly went far over your head. I am saying blaming one person for all the issues in a company that employs over 10,000 people is ridiculous. They have power obviously... but do you think these suits are getting in the office making demands for how THEY want it to go? absolutely not. They are a puppet for the overall conglomerate, nothing more nothing less. It's likely in their job description.

So to come in a forum and yell HERMANNNNNN even though dude is likely just doing the job and is getting paid for it, useless bitching seems unnecessary to me. I remember Nintendo fans doing it to Iwata, then he died and everyone changed course.
and i thought you will backup your claims, but you falter as a piece of paper.

i was looking forward to the evidence and discussion. kinda disappointed.

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and i thought you will backup your claims, but you falter as a piece of paper.

i was looking forward to the evidence and discussion. kinda disappointed.

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lol if you wanna blame jim ryan and herman hulst on the "death" of your favorite toy then so be it...... im really not worried.... although i will mention that those takes lack nuance and usually come from a place of immaturity.
 

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lol if you wanna blame jim ryan and herman hulst on the "death" of your favorite toy then so be it...... im really not worried.... although i will mention that those takes lack nuance and usually come from a place of immaturity.
and it is very mature, come into thread, proceed to say that we are just customers and we know nothing and don't back up any of your own claims.

yes, very mature.
 
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Lego Horizon comes out the same time as the PS5 Pro. It made so much sense to keep it exclusive (along with the Remastered) and do something fun with it for promos, astrobot family bundles or pack-in, etc. It will be a reverberating multiplat flop instead with more CCU threads.

I know I can play it on my cheap laptop so I'll wait for a deep sale or PS+.


Bryan was the OG but he had to change his personality here 😅

I agree it makes sense to keep it exclusive. I meant compared to the remasters, remakes, sp and gaas, 3rd party PS ip games is the least Id care. We dont know the quality of the team or game etc.

PS is kinda under prepared anyway but I guess Lego Horizon as an exclusive would be better.
They should be launching with a title like GOT2 and not a remaster no1 asked for. Thats at least 50 staff that could be helping Sucker Punch finish it before 2025 ( if it has a april release date?)
 
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My point clearly went far over your head. I am saying blaming one person for all the issues in a company that employs over 10,000 people is ridiculous. They have power obviously... but do you think these suits are getting in the office making demands for how THEY want it to go? absolutely not. They are a puppet for the overall conglomerate, nothing more nothing less. It's likely in their job description.

So to come in a forum and yell HERMANNNNNN even though dude is likely just doing the job and is getting paid for it, useless bitching seems unnecessary to me. I remember Nintendo fans doing it to Iwata, then he died and everyone changed course.

Id say if they replaced the people above Hermen that would effect more of the decisions that PS players are unhappy with like myself.

But Id also prefer a change in Hermens role. Someone like Ryan Smith of Insomiac for example, or even a combo or Andrew House and Shuhei.
I guess with the new management and being co-head for Hermen, we can give another 2 years for results as a acceptable time frame including his previous work from 2019.

We dont know Hermen’s deal making abilities, maybe the upper heads see something we dont. But he didnt get the job based on that, he got it on managing studios. And its not like his work has been outstanding.

A good replacement could be good thing. Not another purely business head but someone that can utilise the best of PS and its legacy of ips, studios, and 3rd party history

And I think Ryan Smith and Insomniac are a better example of organising game output and quality. Id say output wise they have been better than Guerrilla and the technically/quality wise they are probably equal