Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered flops on Steam

[Dr. E99]

More People Are Playing the Original Horizon Zero Dawn Than Its Remaster on PC

A not-so new dawn

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More people are playing the original than the remaster on launch day.

The peak player counts is hilariously low and many are poi ting out what needless exercise this was.

Man, I thought you were above the Sony doomer shitposting

 

[voke]

Prove it. Demonstrate which PS CEO had or hadn't power in the grand scheme of things.

IconEra is waiting.

My point clearly went far over your head. I am saying blaming one person for all the issues in a company that employs over 10,000 people is ridiculous. They have power obviously... but do you think these suits are getting in the office making demands for how THEY want it to go? absolutely not. They are a puppet for the overall conglomerate, nothing more nothing less. It's likely in their job description.

So to come in a forum and yell HERMANNNNNN even though dude is likely just doing the job and is getting paid for it, useless bitching seems unnecessary to me. I remember Nintendo fans doing it to Iwata, then he died and everyone changed course.

 

[Monkeyclaw]

Because everybody knows it's not worth the price of admission again.

Only if you have the original and want a few upgrades. Not much people waiting for that. This game was beautiful when it came out and still is. No need for a slight upgrade.

This should have been 30 for the full game and 5 for the upgrade.
Anything more should be considered pure greed.

Sony used to have their "Platinum" range. Full games for half price. Sometimes when applicable, with bonus content included. Look how far they've sunk.

Greed isn't good.

Now, look at Metal Gear Solid 3. THIS game can do with a makeover, which it's rightfully getting.

This HZD "upgrade" has no right of existing yet. Come back in 5 years when tech is way beyond what we have now.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Its up to them if they wanna do it and mess up. What exactly has impacted console releases though?

The Lego game is the only thing I dont care about going multiplatform. Its 3rd party.

Id rather keep SP games, Remakes/Remasters and Gaas exclusive to PS. Like PS2/PS3/PS4 days of online MP. Everything should be exclusive.

Lego Horizon comes out the same time as the PS5 Pro. It made so much sense to keep it exclusive (along with the Remastered) and do something fun with it for promos, astrobot family bundles or pack-in, etc. It will be a reverberating multiplat flop instead with more CCU threads.

I know I can play it on my cheap laptop so I'll wait for a deep sale or PS+.

Man, I thought you were above the Sony doomer shitposting

Bryan was the OG but he had to change his personality here

 

[Danja]

Lego Horizon comes out the same time as the PS5 Pro. It made so much sense to keep it exclusive (along with the Remastered) and do something fun with it for promos, astrobot family bundles or pack-in, etc. It will be a reverberating multiplat flop instead with more CCU threads.

I know I can play it on my cheap laptop so I'll wait for a deep sale or PS+.


Bryan was the OG but he had to change his personality here

It'll be on PS+ by next summer, just wait it out and don't give them a dime extra

 

[Gediminas]

My point clearly went far over your head. I am saying blaming one person for all the issues in a company that employs over 10,000 people is ridiculous. They have power obviously... but do you think these suits are getting in the office making demands for how THEY want it to go? absolutely not. They are a puppet for the overall conglomerate, nothing more nothing less. It's likely in their job description.

So to come in a forum and yell HERMANNNNNN even though dude is likely just doing the job and is getting paid for it, useless bitching seems unnecessary to me. I remember Nintendo fans doing it to Iwata, then he died and everyone changed course.

and i thought you will backup your claims, but you falter as a piece of paper.

i was looking forward to the evidence and discussion. kinda disappointed.

IconEra

 

[voke]

and i thought you will backup your claims, but you falter as a piece of paper.

i was looking forward to the evidence and discussion. kinda disappointed.

IconEra

lol if you wanna blame jim ryan and herman hulst on the "death" of your favorite toy then so be it...... im really not worried.... although i will mention that those takes lack nuance and usually come from a place of immaturity.

 

[Gediminas]

lol if you wanna blame jim ryan and herman hulst on the "death" of your favorite toy then so be it...... im really not worried.... although i will mention that those takes lack nuance and usually come from a place of immaturity.

and it is very mature, come into thread, proceed to say that we are just customers and we know nothing and don't back up any of your own claims.

yes, very mature.

 

[voke]

and it is very mature, come into thread, proceed to say that we are just customers and we know nothing and don't back up any of your own claims.

yes, very mature.

well i mean......

 

[Kokoloko]

Lego Horizon comes out the same time as the PS5 Pro. It made so much sense to keep it exclusive (along with the Remastered) and do something fun with it for promos, astrobot family bundles or pack-in, etc. It will be a reverberating multiplat flop instead with more CCU threads.

I know I can play it on my cheap laptop so I'll wait for a deep sale or PS+.


Bryan was the OG but he had to change his personality here

I agree it makes sense to keep it exclusive. I meant compared to the remasters, remakes, sp and gaas, 3rd party PS ip games is the least Id care. We dont know the quality of the team or game etc.

PS is kinda under prepared anyway but I guess Lego Horizon as an exclusive would be better.
They should be launching with a title like GOT2 and not a remaster no1 asked for. Thats at least 50 staff that could be helping Sucker Punch finish it before 2025 ( if it has a april release date?)

 

[Kokoloko]

My point clearly went far over your head. I am saying blaming one person for all the issues in a company that employs over 10,000 people is ridiculous. They have power obviously... but do you think these suits are getting in the office making demands for how THEY want it to go? absolutely not. They are a puppet for the overall conglomerate, nothing more nothing less. It's likely in their job description.

So to come in a forum and yell HERMANNNNNN even though dude is likely just doing the job and is getting paid for it, useless bitching seems unnecessary to me. I remember Nintendo fans doing it to Iwata, then he died and everyone changed course.

Id say if they replaced the people above Hermen that would effect more of the decisions that PS players are unhappy with like myself.

But Id also prefer a change in Hermens role. Someone like Ryan Smith of Insomiac for example, or even a combo or Andrew House and Shuhei.
I guess with the new management and being co-head for Hermen, we can give another 2 years for results as a acceptable time frame including his previous work from 2019.

We dont know Hermen’s deal making abilities, maybe the upper heads see something we dont. But he didnt get the job based on that, he got it on managing studios. And its not like his work has been outstanding.

A good replacement could be good thing. Not another purely business head but someone that can utilise the best of PS and its legacy of ips, studios, and 3rd party history

And I think Ryan Smith and Insomniac are a better example of organising game output and quality. Id say output wise they have been better than Guerrilla and the technically/quality wise they are probably equal

 

[arvfab]

What exactly has impacted console releases though?

Quantity and quality.

Its 3rd party.

It's 1st party.

 

[Bryank75]

Man, I thought you were above the Sony doomer shitposting

I'm just reposting news from Push Square

I do try to avoid anything needlessly doomish...

This is just a port, not that big of a deal.

 

[Neversummer]

Crashing on live service hopes and selling your nuts to Steam, when Valve doesn’t even support your console with their games and have an handheld that is a competitor to future PlayStation handheld plans is going to be the biggest mistake by Sony.

Even Steamdeck having the dual analog sticks which will certainly compete w future PS handheld & likely violates a patent of PS using the parallel dual stick analog as I haven’t seen any official hardware manufacturer use that format for a gaming device. Hybrid handhelds are the future of consoles & Sony/PS isn’t securing the features & games that make the PS hardware, storefront & ecosystem special from others competitors.

Imagine Nintendo use the dual analog stick for a controls scheme which imo is superior then the format you see on Xbox, PC or Nintendo.

 

[Neversummer]

Such a sign of weakness as a platform holder to release 1st party on other platforms

Your weakness reeks of desperation and people move away

Exactly & it’s the reason Xbox has to do 2-3 times the hard work compared to PS or Nintendo to even get any result

 

[DarkLordOtaku]

Its up to them if they wanna do it and mess up. What exactly has impacted console releases though?

The Lego game is the only thing I dont care about going multiplatform. Its 3rd party.

Id rather keep SP games, Remakes/Remasters and Gaas exclusive to PS. Like PS2/PS3/PS4 days of online MP. Everything should be exclusive.

I thing GAAS games make a lot of sense to push multi-platform day 1, because network effect is incredibly important to their success.

 

[Neversummer]

Yes, the core issues are at the top.
But I still think someone else in charge of the studios would do better, even Shuhei with his own shortcoming would be better.

Jim mentioned Hermen wanted fasted PC release and that he didnt. Im sure alot of the Horizon decisions wouldnt have been pushed as hard either if Hermen wasnt there

Jim actually mention how PV & Valve was a competitor & I forgot the details but I feel like he said something about valve position in the market.

Valve does sit in a special position in the gaming market where there storefront & platform can grow without hardware but they even now have stated making hardware & will likely grow if not Valve will push players into the Steamdeck hardware as handheld hybrid becomes more prominent. Either way Valve/Steam can easily replace PS as a storefront & hardware just like you seen w the windows/xbox storefront on PC. Ultimately you need exclusive & valve by default gets dozens if not hundreds of exclusive games that aren’t on console which is something Valve specifically benefits by it’s position & its decision to make juggernaut franchises like DOTA, CSGO & now Deadlock & likely the rumor Half Lyfe 3 exclusive to the Steam storefront & Steamdeck console hardware

 

[DarkLordOtaku]

I'm just reposting news from Push Square

I do try to avoid anything needlessly doomish...

This is just a port, not that big of a deal.

I appreciate that you generally seem to maintain a relatively moderate stance.

 

[Neversummer]

You don't need to worry about that. Lego Horizon is number 818 on Steam, yesterday it was 900+. It will be the biggest PC flop after Concord.

https://steamdb.info/app/2428810/charts/

Normally, it should open their eyes about all the damage these ports did to their business but it won't. Sony is the dumbest company out there. A luxury brand giving away their goods like it's trash

They made their bed. Now we can just point and laugh until they go 3rd-party like Sega and Xbox

How high did concord charted on PC? Wasn’t it around 200?

 

[Neversummer]

...unless it's GaaS... or a remaster/remake... or a LEGO game.

They also said at least 2 years before the ports and that it wouldn't impact the console releases....

GAAS should only release across PS, PC & Mobile & even on PC it should be under a PS PC launcher exclusivity. These GAAS needs to be budgeted & scope that they can survive on PS4 & PS5 like GT7, Uncharted etc w them being on PC under a PS PC launcher exclusively as secondary & depending on the game on mobile. Even in those cases GAAS like GT7, LittleBigPlanet, PS home should be exclusive to PS as there smaller or niche focus towards the PS community. Even games like PS Allstars should either release across PS & Mobile since mobile is a bigger market then PC for those platform fighter or release across PS4/PS5, PC (PS PC launcher) & Mobile just like Nintendo have done.

Ima say it & I don’t think it’s farfetch under Herman leadership. The Horizon Monster Hunter GAAS game will release day 1 on Switch 1/2 giving the art style being more Fortnite from the leaks & it taking so long to reveal I can see the reveal being shown at this year TGA just like Lego Horiozn reveal.