Industry and Video game layoff thread |OT| Any future layoff info please place in here.

Dabaus

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Laying off redundant positions and staff is the future, sony knows this too. AI is the future, not people. People are expensive, they need time off, they have kids, they smell bad. The future is all digital, Microsoft is just a step ahead of sony by cancelling physical. Sales dont matter, engagement is all that matters now. Please subscribe to gamepass.
 

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Laying off redundant positions and staff is the future, sony knows this too. AI is the future, not people. People are expensive, they need time off, they have kids, they smell bad. The future is all digital, Microsoft is just a step ahead of sony by cancelling physical. Sales dont matter, engagement is all that matters now. Please subscribe to gamepass.
I didn't know we had parody accounts here. Say you love Phil Spencer.
 

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Let's be fair here.
Working in game for 6 years and being still not close to launch is really not good for game/team.
Blaming the engine is another issue... why did not choose another one? You have a lot of time to change it after all.

Exactly. That game was badly mismanged. 6 years into the project and still nowhere finished? And on a garbage engine? Shutting it down was the correct decision.
 

AshHunter216

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Impossible, and if there would be some exception in some tiny country would be totally irrelevant.

In CY22 only $9B of the $55B generated by console games was in physical sales:

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No, physical game sales revenue keep getting replaced by digital game sales+addons+subs revenue. Which means that in the long term physical sales will dissapear or become a tiny niche, pretty likely for collector editions only which may no longer include the disk.

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I disagree and I'm not interested in a back and forth over one of your famous massively long posts pushing your opinions as facts. I think it will still be enough of the market to be worth doing.

I'm simply saying that I would like for the next PS to have physical media, not that it's a guaranteed.
 
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AshHunter216

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It's gotten pretty rough for them too of late because of the Palworld stuff. A lot of the usual Xbox suspects treating it as a defacto console exclusive and piggybacking off the Steam momentum, dismissing the blatant Pokemon ripoffs and pratically asset theft (yes, TRACING over a pre-existing model near 1:1 and making slight changes to avoid immediate copyright infringements is still illegal when done without the consent of the original owner. It at very least should be looked down upon like tracing in the art community is).

But people like Transistor, Judge, Jawmuncher etc. have leaned in on weaponizing Nintendo fans by proxy against pro-PlayStation news on the forum, so they don't want to piss the Nintendo people off TOO much. Hence they're more lenient with them.



Yep. Even has his own gaming website 🤣
Any PlayStation fan still on there needs to leave and go somewhere they're more welcome.
 
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Laying off redundant positions and staff is the future, sony knows this too. AI is the future, not people. People are expensive, they need time off, they have kids, they smell bad. The future is all digital, Microsoft is just a step ahead of sony by cancelling physical. Sales dont matter, engagement is all that matters now. Please subscribe to gamepass.
Objection, the majority of people don't smell bad, only the ones that hang out with @Sircaw

fish out of water climbing perch GIF by PRI
 
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I disagree and I'm not interested in a ack and forth over one of your famous massively long posts pushing your opinions as facts. I think it will still be enough of the market to be worth doing.
This chart is not my opinion, it's factual data that shows how the market has evolved in recent years (+projections/estimates of CY23 and next ones by IDG):

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Here you have another one:

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More mind-melting (if you're an Xbox fan) news due next week I'm told.
Do you mean the announcement of the Hi-Fi Rush PS5 port?
 
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Not sure if it will be the case.

The percentage of digital vs phisical sales keeps increasing. In this chart they keep the same for CY25 and 26, but makes more sense that in CY25-28 will continue decreasing to become almost zero or just a couple billions, mostly from Nintendo where the % of digital sales way bigger.

Physical game sales are being replaced by digital sales. And game sales are being replaced by addon (GaaS/F2P) sales.

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What? Did you miss the info for Japan, where digital sales are still a very small amount of total units sold compared to physical? That is likely also the case in various other markets, some established and some emerging.

Anyway there is nothing wrong with providing the option of disc media for games and SIE would be suiciding PlayStation to not have a disc drive option for the PS6. Now will there be a disc drive built into PS6 by default? Most likely no. But as long as the option for one is still present, and discs still actually contain game data to install from (not just acting as DRM keys the way it does with Xbox), then that's perfectly fine.

Because truth told, there will always be some demand for physical certainly by hardcore and core enthusiasts (or at least many of them), and ridding the option altogether risks pissing off your early adopters and biggest spenders. Microsoft's likely going to start finding that out the hard way if the news they're letting go of physical media people is true, but it's diminished somewhat by the fact a lot of their hardcore & core customers have essentially reduced B2P purchases on the console to a bare minimum and have shifted either most or all of their spending power to PC platforms like Steam and/or consoles like PS5 and Switch.

A similar move by Sony would hit a lot harder (in a bad way) because the brand is bigger globally and that includes in certain markets where physical is still very strong. Not to mention, isolating the drive from the system removes most of the financial risk on Sony's end; it's up to 3P publishers if they want to manufacture physical copies themselves from that point on. I'm sure there are factories that can take bulk orders for disc to be pressed, and 3P pubs likely having authoring tools to apply the necessary security on the physical copies and what-have-you.

....also that chart is industry-wide, but that doesn't mean equivalent ratios for each of the platform holders. I.e highly doubtful digital game sales on Nintendo platforms will be 2x that of physical within two years, or even on Sony platforms for that matter. It'll probably be that ratio or more in favor of digital on Xbox because Microsoft are hellbent on getting rid of physical for their own agenda.

Anyway, let's get this thread back on topic. We've got 1,900 lost jobs at Microsoft Gaming to talk about!
 

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What? Did you miss the info for Japan, where digital sales are still a very small amount of total units sold compared to physical? That is likely also the case in various other markets, some established and some emerging.

Anyway there is nothing wrong with providing the option of disc media for games and SIE would be suiciding PlayStation to not have a disc drive option for the PS6. Now will there be a disc drive built into PS6 by default? Most likely no. But as long as the option for one is still present, and discs still actually contain game data to install from (not just acting as DRM keys the way it does with Xbox), then that's perfectly fine.

Because truth told, there will always be some demand for physical certainly by hardcore and core enthusiasts (or at least many of them), and ridding the option altogether risks pissing off your early adopters and biggest spenders. Microsoft's likely going to start finding that out the hard way if the news they're letting go of physical media people is true, but it's diminished somewhat by the fact a lot of their hardcore & core customers have essentially reduced B2P purchases on the console to a bare minimum and have shifted either most or all of their spending power to PC platforms like Steam and/or consoles like PS5 and Switch.

A similar move by Sony would hit a lot harder (in a bad way) because the brand is bigger globally and that includes in certain markets where physical is still very strong. Not to mention, isolating the drive from the system removes most of the financial risk on Sony's end; it's up to 3P publishers if they want to manufacture physical copies themselves from that point on. I'm sure there are factories that can take bulk orders for disc to be pressed, and 3P pubs likely having authoring tools to apply the necessary security on the physical copies and what-have-you.

Anyway, let's get this thread back on topic. We've got 1,900 lost jobs at Microsoft Gaming to talk about!
I don't get why some people get so offended at others wanting the option for physical media.