Introducing PlayStation Portal remote, Pulse Explore wireless earbuds, PlayStation Pulse Elite wireless headset

[Yurinka]

Wrong. The reason Vita failed was because of a bad marketing strategy on Sony's part and use of an overpriced proprietary memory card, in addition to other shortcomings @ksdixon said. Those were the biggest factors that contributed to early bad sales which in turn caused 3P to taper off support for the device.

I agree overpriced + propietary memory card were bad points for Vita but these and mine are only opinions. I think that if the pricing issue is a real issue it gets solved when discounted, something that didn't happen with Vita.

Also you are hilariously using 'high-end consoles' as an unironic definition. I see you've let the FTC bait-and-switch you into a market definition only they defined & created. GGs. Can't wait for the next spreadsheet seminar.

Call them 'high-end consoles' or 'consoles technically capable of running modern AAA games decently without being too downgraded to the point most people won't buy them there, so big publishers won't spend too much work to port them for not profitable enough sales', as you wish. You know what I mean.

You miss the point of what people are saying and just source/retell the pr statements most of the time. You are a good Bing.

I provide solid/official sources to back claims, it's called to back opinions with factual sources independently if I personally like them or not.

The opposite of what some people does here: to state stuff based on personal wishes even if they go against the reality when reality doesn't match what they like. Quite often, as we can see in your reply when that other person doesn't have any factual source to back their bullshit point and counter mine in a proper debate, use straw man or ad hominem fallacies.

Right so even if Sony's service blew the nuts off anything, it's subject to the trials and tribulations of Internet infrastructure setup. How do we do better and solve all these issues, give the portable device the best chance of support and survival? Why, we give it local storage of course, we allow cloud streaming as well as remote play. As is, it's a POS.

As I previously said, I don't understand why Remote Play requires internet connection, at least allowing an option to connect locally directly from PS5 to PS Portal (something that as I remember was possible many years ago, maybe in the PS3/early PS4 days). I assume it's due to security reasons because that may open the door to certain hacking type which could allow hack the PS5, but I'm not an expert.

I also think that -in addition to Remote Play- it would have been better to support cloud gaming directly from PS+ servers to PS Portal, and to do it without using PS5 as bridge. But seems that they're only considering PS Portal as a PS5 accesory, just a DualSense with a display for Remote Play. Who knows, they may update Remote Play in the future to support local streaming.

It's a Remote Play PS5 accessory, basically just a gamepad with a display and streaming capabilities. And as such I don't see why it should need local storage other than what it needs for the OS and the streaming app (and maybe PS+ cloud gaming one in a future firmware update).

 

[ksdixon]

I agree overpriced + propietary memory card were bad points for Vita but these and mine are only opinions. I think that if the pricing issue is a real issue it gets solved when discounted, something that didn't happen with Vita.


Call them 'high-end consoles' or 'consoles technically capable of running modern AAA games decently without being too downgraded to the point most people won't buy them there, so big publishers won't spend too much work to port them for not profitable enough sales', as you wish. You know what I mean.


I provide solid/official sources to back claims, it's called to back opinions with factual sources independently if I personally like them or not.

The opposite of what some people does here: to state stuff based on personal wishes even if they go against the reality when reality doesn't match what they like. Quite often, as we can see in your reply when that other person doesn't have any factual source to back their bullshit point and counter mine in a proper debate, use straw man or ad hominem fallacies.


As I previously said, I don't understand why Remote Play requires internet connection, at least allowing an option to connect locally directly from PS5 to PS Portal (something that as I remember was possible many years ago, maybe in the PS3/early PS4 days). I assume it's due to security reasons because that may open the door to certain hacking type which could allow hack the PS5, but I'm not an expert.

I also think that -in addition to Remote Play- it would have been better to support cloud gaming directly from PS+ servers to PS Portal, and to do it without using PS5 as bridge. But seems that they're only considering PS Portal as a PS5 accesory, just a DualSense with a display for Remote Play. Who knows, they may update Remote Play in the future to support local streaming.

It's a Remote Play PS5 accessory, basically just a gamepad with a display and streaming capabilities. And as such I don't see why it should need local storage other than what it needs for the OS and the streaming app (and maybe PS+ cloud gaming one in a future firmware update).

no one asked for a dumb remote play only device.

switch fans? nah
deck fans? nah
psp/vita fans? nah

what makes this any better than logitek g-cloud? wasn't that thing streaming only, simillar to this being remote play only? Sony's wank ass vibration haptics?

 

[ksdixon]

Haha reaction emoji all you want, even you guys know Portal is shit.

 

[Yurinka]

no one asked for a dumb remote play only device.

switch fans? nah
deck fans? nah
psp/vita fans? nah

what makes this any better than logitek g-cloud? wasn't that thing streaming only, simillar to this being remote play only? Sony's wank ass vibration haptics?

You forgot to mention that the microwaves fans and the refrigerators fans didn't ask about it. This is not a portable console. This is not a cloud gaming device.

This is a dedicated Remote Play PS5 accessory, a DualSense with a screen on it to play your PS5 games while in the bathroom, in the bed or when someone else is using the tv. This is targeted to PS5 users, not to refrigerators or microwaves users.

Considering that SIE is getting record revenue from accessories, that DualSense Edge is top 1 in sales and that PSVR2 is selling better than PSVR1 I'd be confident on that their accesories teams don't do dumb stuff and that in fact they know very well what they do: products that their customers want to buy. And well, seeing that PS5, PS+ and the Sony first party games are also achieving several record numbers, same can be said for SIE as a whole.

You may not want this device or would have prefered something else, or may hate Sony. That's fine. But this doesn't mean that many other people may want it.

 

[nongkris]

He does on Twitter (probably after he realized his mistake) than goes ahead and suggests you need to be in the same house to use remote play...



Just constant misinformation. Very disappointing from him. Seems like he learned all his info about the device from that Tom Warren tweet.

why is this multi-millionaire trying to act like $199 is a hefty price tag to begin with? he must've been butthurt sony didn't give him some exclusive coverage like he's used to Apple doing for him. Tech geeks like him look to The verge/tom warren as gospel.

 

[Johnic]

why is this multi-millionaire trying to act like $199 is a hefty price tag to begin with? he must've been butthurt sony didn't give him some exclusive coverage like he's used to Apple doing for him. Tech geeks like him look to The verge/tom warren as gospel.

Astroturfing, probably.

 

[Swift_Star]

He does on Twitter (probably after he realized his mistake) than goes ahead and suggests you need to be in the same house to use remote play...



Just constant misinformation. Very disappointing from him. Seems like he learned all his info about the device from that Tom Warren tweet.

You can play the games with a wired headphone, earphone, whatever, this is a disingenuous take.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

He does on Twitter (probably after he realized his mistake) than goes ahead and suggests you need to be in the same house to use remote play...



Just constant misinformation. Very disappointing from him. Seems like he learned all his info about the device from that Tom Warren tweet.

Can't blame him too much when Sony don't communicate directly with most media spots in general, and don't have a mascot to engage with gaming and tech enthusiasts in the public exploiting parasocial relationships the way Microsoft does (hint: Phil Spencer is the mascot) :/

I mean who's going to check on the blog for a lot of this info unless you're already a PlayStation enthusiast in some way? Sony has to do a better job communicating all the facts right from the get-go directly to the public and through the media channels from jump.

Something they were actually pretty good at, but it seems they've scaled back significantly on public marketing among press and community engagement. At least they're still doing strong with traditional advertising avenues though.

 

[anonpuffs]

Can't blame him too much when Sony don't communicate directly with most media spots in general, and don't have a mascot to engage with gaming and tech enthusiasts in the public exploiting parasocial relationships the way Microsoft does (hint: Phil Spencer is the mascot) :/

I mean who's going to check on the blog for a lot of this info unless you're already a PlayStation enthusiast in some way? Sony has to do a better job communicating all the facts right from the get-go directly to the public and through the media channels from jump.

Something they were actually pretty good at, but it seems they've scaled back significantly on public marketing among press and community engagement. At least they're still doing strong with traditional advertising avenues though.

100% correct.
The fact that a Microsoft shill like Tom Warren is the go-to for Sony information despite him constantly doing his best to damage their brand is 100% a failure of their marketing team, their marketing and PR strategy, and ultimately a failure of Jimbo and his bosses at Sony corporate.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

Whats funny is if this thing cost 250-300 with cloud streaming and Bluetooth we’d be here having the same conversation lol

“Arrogant sony thinks anyone is gonna pay the price of a switch for an ugly cloud streaming device “

 

[FatKaz]

100% correct.
The fact that a Microsoft shill like Tom Warren is the go-to for Sony information despite him constantly doing his best to damage their brand is 100% a failure of their marketing team, their marketing and PR strategy, and ultimately a failure of Jimbo and his bosses at Sony corporate.

Tom warren is only the go to if people choose to make him the go to. Which is something playstation fans (especially on here) love to do.

You have guys like uraverageconsumer( he has more reach to casuals then tom) who posted a pretty decent video on it, but folks on here would rather post tom warrens take on it.

There are outlets actually discussing this thing properly, Sony literally had influencers and journalista go over to their hq and explain how this thing works and gave them a hands on.

People on here choose to follow the shills and negativity, and then they bring it on here, and they want Sony to follow microsofts failed marketing and Comms strategies. No doubt sonys marketing needs impeoving but not by following ms which is what alot of people want.

 

[anonpuffs]

Tom warren is only the go to if people choose to make him the go to. Which is something playstation fans (especially on here) love to do.

You have guys like uraverageconsumer( he has more reach to casuals then tom) who posted a pretty decent video on it, but folks on here would rather post tom warrens take on it.

There are outlets actually discussing this thing properly, Sony literally had influencers and journalista go over to their hq and explain how this thing works and gave them a hands on.

People on here choose to follow the shills and negativity, and then they bring it on here, and they want Sony to follow microsofts failed marketing and Comms strategies. No doubt sonys marketing needs impeoving but not by following ms which is what alot of people want.

Tom Warren is the go to because he keeps leaking all their top secret stuff.

 

[FatKaz]

Tom Warren is the go to because he keeps leaking all their top secret stuff.

Isn't that Tom Henderson that leaks Sonys stuff? Maybe shill Warren does leak stuff, but I wasn't aware of it.

 

[anonpuffs]

Isn't that Tom Henderson that leaks Sonys stuff? Maybe shill Warren does leak stuff, but I wasn't aware of it.

Oh maybe i got them mixed up. If i did my bad.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

Best thing about the portal is they won’t be releasing sales updates for it since its just an accessory so we don’t have to stomach the incessant dooming about it every week, month, quarter

I will make a show out of it ends up being one of the best selling accessories on NPD though

 

[Eggman]

Tom warren is only the go to if people choose to make him the go to. Which is something playstation fans (especially on here) love to do.

You have guys like uraverageconsumer( he has more reach to casuals then tom) who posted a pretty decent video on it, but folks on here would rather post tom warrens take on it.

There are outlets actually discussing this thing properly, Sony literally had influencers and journalista go over to their hq and explain how this thing works and gave them a hands on.

People on here choose to follow the shills and negativity, and then they bring it on here, and they want Sony to follow microsofts failed marketing and Comms strategies. No doubt sonys marketing needs impeoving but not by following ms which is what alot of people want.

I actually originally mentioned Tom Warren because his tweet appeared in the Marquis Brownlee video where he apparently did no research and just quoted what Tom said.

I cant even see what Tom Warren says anymore on Twitter because he blocked me after I called him out for blatant shilling and misinformation several times.

I don't want Sony to follow MS marketing strategy, in fact I want the opposite. I want global regulators to look into Microsoft's clear shilling campaign without disclosing it. I post about it on this website most of the bullshit I find just to have a record of it because this is one of the only sites that hasnt been taken over by Microsoft bots.

I mostly post it in the thread dedicated to misinformation in the game industry

 

[FatKaz]

I actually originally mentioned Tom Warren because his tweet appeared in the Marquis Brownlee video where he apparently did no research and just quoted what Tom said.

I cant even see what Tom Warren says anymore on Twitter because he blocked me after I called him out for blatant shilling and misinformation several times.

I don't want Sony to follow MS marketing strategy, in fact I want the opposite. I want global regulators to look into Microsoft's clear shilling campaign without disclosing it. I post about it on this website most of the bullshit I find just to have a record of it because this is one of the only sites that hasnt been taken over by Microsoft bots.

I mostly post it in the thread dedicated to misinformation in the game industry

Yeah no worries.

I was referring to others who basically litter threads with shill posts for no reason and explanation and make no attempt to debunk whatever the shills are posting., effectively contributing to spreading FUD from these shills

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Nevermind the price. Not supporting bluetooth LE with embedded low latency nor a USB port for wireless headphones, renders the Portal pretty useless to me. Maybe they'll add usb soundcard support down the road, but for now this is pretty terrible.

The big surprise are the Pulse Elite. Seems like they were made by Audeze with planar magnetic drives so the sound should be awesome. If they sound anywhere close to my Maxwell Audeze for 150€ then we have a winner here.

 

[historia]

Nevermind the price. Not supporting bluetooth LE with embedded low latency nor a USB port for wireless headphones, renders the Portal pretty useless to me. Maybe they'll add usb soundcard support down the road, but for now this is pretty terrible.

The big surprise are the Pulse Elite. Seems like they were made by Audeze with planar magnetic drives so the sound should be awesome. If they sound anywhere close to my Maxwell Audeze for 150€ then we have a winner here.

Can you use it seperately on phone, PC with DAC though, that is the real question.

 

[Shmunter]

Nevermind the price. Not supporting bluetooth LE with embedded low latency nor a USB port for wireless headphones, renders the Portal pretty useless to me. Maybe they'll add usb soundcard support down the road, but for now this is pretty terrible.

The big surprise are the Pulse Elite. Seems like they were made by Audeze with planar magnetic drives so the sound should be awesome. If they sound anywhere close to my Maxwell Audeze for 150€ then we have a winner here.

Is Bluetooth LE even out? Heard a lot of rumbling about it over the years and it seems to have dropped off the planet. If so, any buds you’d recommend?

One thing to keep in mind about this device - it is 100% gaming focused, Sony cannot simply enable Bluetooth giving the expectation to the customer it’s an adequate form of audio playback for gaming - because it’s not. And if LE is available, it must be a minefield to which set to certify and publish - logistically too difficult.

The only way to guarantee a proper experience is to go wired via the jack or proprietary wireless - both ticked here.