Jim Ryan confirms that PC is a direct competitor to Playstation in FTC documents.

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Because they expect it to make them nearly have a billion in revenue a year and continue to grow


And PC ports of older games likely does not impact PS5 sales or software sales
and in FY22 they expected to make 250m and only made 200m. Also that projection was from before they bought Bungie. Bungie is the reason why it was even close, without Destiny 2, revenue wouldn't have even cracked 100m from just ports alone.
 
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Because they expect it to make them nearly have a billion in revenue a year and continue to grow


And PC ports of older games likely does not impact PS5 sales or software sales
90 percent of that total is Destiny. Their PC ports have seen a horrific decline in sales since their first port of Horizon years ago. There is no growth for playstation ports to be had.
 
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If he knows this then why does he continue to port the Playstation exclusive library to a competitor platform?

I'm sure his defenders will come in this thread saying how PC ports are still excellent because "reasons".

He's right. It's not like back in the early '00s where crossover between enthusiasts & core-casual console gamers & PC gamers was very small. There's way more cross-pollination these days with both platforms, so that inherently means more direct competition between both platforms.

It's why, ideally, Sony should probably either not bring their marquee traditional AAA games to PC, or if they do, spread out the port cadence to where previous entries arrive on PC within a year or two of a new installment on PlayStation, and find other ways to make the later ports appealing to PC (such as in addition to QoL feature enhancements, adding new content, maybe demo content from the upcoming sequel, etc.).

The GaaS-centric titles? Those can have shorter porting windows, or go Day 1 in some cases. But find a way to where it's fair for console gamers too when it comes to costs, not just players on PC. PC players didn't build PlayStation into the brand it is today. Of course, all of this changes if Sony launches their own launcher/storefront on PC and so some kind of "PlayStation virtual console" there that way, but there are no indications they're at that point currently or will be for the next several years.
 

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and in FY22 they expected to make 250m and only made 200m. Also that projection was from before they bought Bungie. Bungie is the reason why it was even close, without Destiny 2, revenue wouldn't have even cracked 100m from just ports alone.
That projection was made before delaying Returnal and TLOUP1 to just to the end of the fiscal year. So pretty likely these 50M are from units sold from these 2 games that instead of being sold in that FY were sold in the next one.

The projection was made before completing the acquisition but back then already had it locked and knew the Bungie numbers so knew a good approximation of what they were going to generate.
 

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Where is bryan, he's my fellow PC ports hater along with KnittedKnight. We all see eye to eye on this subject.
Ive never liked PC ports. Im just glad they didnt do Day 1. Jim rejected it and Herman Im sure wanted it. I just had to accept they ported over to PC.

Gaas day 1 I dont mind as much. Id prefer if they doubled down on making everything exclusive like Nintendo but atm Im not sure they are in that position to pull it off anymore
 
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Where is bryan, he's my fellow PC ports hater along with KnittedKnight. We all see eye to eye on this subject.
Free Nhomnhom for a day! He deserves the opportunity go ham on some posters here, if he so wishes on this day. All is fair...

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Consoles can't compete with Steam on any level.

Steam only recently hit 130 million MAU and that's on a platform with billions of available devices. Keep in mind you don't need to purchase a Steam account; you can make one for free. Significantly less active buyers, total CCU in-line with at least PS consoles.

I'd say Sony & Nintendo can compete more than fine with Steam. Microsoft can't.
 
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Steam only recently hit 130 million MAU and that's on a platform with billions of available devices. Keep in mind you don't need to purchase a Steam account; you can make one for free. Significantly less active buyers, total CCU in-line with at least PS consoles.

I'd say Sony & Nintendo can compete more than fine with Steam. Microsoft can't.
Can't use my pricey Sony WH-1000MX3 headphones with Sony Playstation 5. Works on every PC. PC wins.