Key example of unnecessary bloat in PlayStation Studios

Zzero

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As someone who endured the epic slog that is the Hogwarts Legacy credits scroll last night I have to say that I agree.


Seriously, that fucking thing ends with a solid five minutes of slow scrolling EULAs for fonts and back end programming and plug-ins, on top of the standard 20+ outsourcing studios they hired, who all got full credit scrolls for their employees.
 
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Zzero

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We'll probably be Sony best selling game this gen, why does the cost of Spider-man 2 matters so much if it's more than profitable?
Because Disney gets a massive chunk of the sale price in royalties AND because successful games like SM2 have to also carry the burden of failed games AND because there is a SM3 coming (and 3 X-Men games) and Insomniac can't let this happen again AND because the narrative of 2 isn't actually any better than 1's so why are there 20 additional people on the writing team that haven't helped anything? You could literally get an indie styled game like Dave the Diver or Ori out of those 20 salaries if you found the right people.
 

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Because Disney gets a massive chunk of the sale price in royalties AND because successful games like SM2 have to also carry the burden of failed games AND because there is a SM3 coming (and 3 X-Men games) and Insomniac can't let this happen again AND because the narrative of 2 isn't actually any better than 1's so why are there 20 additional people on the writing team that haven't helped anything? You could literally get an indie styled game like Dave the Diver or Ori out of those 20 salaries if you found the right people.
Spider-man 3 will be fine and will make Sony a lot of money, guaranteed. Insomniac is their most productive studio by far.
 
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another horrible take from the jim ryan avatar, first you wanted PS5 to cut their price because Series S has been discounted and losing money, and now you want people from Sony's most valuable and profitable studio fired because you've never wrote a story in your life.
 

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I read somewhere that most FS games "storyline" takes like 3 personnel.

So I do agree that you don't need 500 people on paid to write a proper story, which S2 barely have.
 

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Spider-man 3 will be fine and will make Sony a lot of money, guaranteed. Insomniac is their most productive studio by far.
Its not guaranteed. Don't say its guaranteed if it hasn't happened yet. The PSP was guaranteed to beat the DS right until it didn't. Fortnite was guaranteed to always keep Epic in the black right until it didn't. Pokemon was guaranteed to always release every other year right until it didn't.
 

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Its not guaranteed. Don't say its guaranteed if it hasn't happened yet. The PSP was guaranteed to beat the DS right until it didn't. Fortnite was guaranteed to always keep Epic in the black right until it didn't. Pokemon was guaranteed to always release every other year right until it didn't.
It is guaranteed. It's Spider-man made by Insomniac it going to sell over 20m+ copies. Only way it flop is if PlayStation is dead.
 
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another horrible take from the jim ryan avatar, first you wanted PS5 to cut their price because Series S has been discounted and losing money, and now you want people from Sony's most valuable and profitable studio fired because you've never wrote a story in your life.
it would have been more profitable if they kept rooster as it was, as SM showed, they didn't need any more. so they bloated..
congrats on attacking other member on your own stupid comment. next time keep in check yourself before making wild comments.
 

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it would have been more profitable if they kept rooster as it was, as SM showed, they didn't need any more. so they bloated..
congrats on attacking other member on your own stupid comment. next time keep in check yourself before making wild comments.
Are you the CFO of a financial analyst at insomniac? Have you ever worked on a billion dollar video game before?

You people are acting like insomniac is struggling or spiderman 2 flopped or something? The game sold gangbusters, it's sequel will continue to sell gangbusters, and Insomniac is the reason why this gen has not been a complete flop from a first party perspective.
 

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Are you the CFO of a financial analyst at insomniac? Have you ever worked on a billion dollar video game before?

You people are acting like insomniac is struggling or spiderman 2 flopped or something? The game sold gangbusters, it's sequel will continue to sell gangbusters, and Insomniac is the reason why this gen has not been a complete flop from a first party perspective.
they just fired people from Insomniac too, they are bloated, so why you keep writing these dumbass comments?
 

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they just fired people from Insomniac too, they are bloated, so why you keep writing these dumbass comments?
I'm writing comments to dumbass replies such as yours and OP's acting like Spiderman is unprofitable or flopped. You keep glossing over that part while continue using your made up definition of "bloated".

So funny how quick you guys are to believe a random twitter reply from a console warrior with 3 likes. :ROFLMAO: Social media was a mistake.
 

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I'm writing comments to dumbass replies such as yours and OP's acting like Spiderman is unprofitable or flopped. You keep glossing over that part while continue using your made up definition of "bloated".

So funny how quick you guys are to believe a random twitter reply from a console warrior with 3 likes. :ROFLMAO: Social media was a mistake.
What tweeter. It came directly from Playstation. They fired people from Insomniac and you acting like studio wasn't bloated. By your own comment, are you CEO or CFO of sony or Playstation?
Of course bloated, just look at the credits, are you blind? Look at the Sony's actions.

You have no arguments here, just dumbfuck mumbling cluelessly.
 
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What tweeter. It came directly from Playstation. They fired people from Insomniac and you acting like studio wasn't bloated. By your own comment, are you CEO or CFO of sony or Playstation?
Of course bloated, just look at the credits, are you blind? Look at the Sony l's actions.

You have no arguments here, just dumbfuck mumbling cluelessly.
Insomniac firings were community managers and they are not real devs anyway. Blowing things out of proportion is unbelievable here.
 

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Insomniac firings were community managers and they are not real devs anyway. Blowing things out of proportion is unbelievable here.
I saw you comment in other thread, so 900 community managers 😂 whole London studio was made by community managers 😂

Fired 900 people. Blowing out of proportion, yeahh, noooo.