Metaphor: ReFantazio shipments and digital sales top one million

[Danja]

The fact is Square Misread the market with FF16 and it backfired. It's a great game but the direction they went was not what was needed.

 

[ethomaz]

IX HD is a re-release bud. No other way to cut it. XII base "only" did 6.1 million before the expansion, IX didn't hit 8 million until the HD re-release.

Also these are all FF games from generations back; the main sales anomalies in terms of hitting 8-10 million or even higher altogether are VII, VIII, and X. Otherwise series entries have generally straddled around 5-8 million lifetime, depending on the game, and usually including re-releases and ports.

SE's problem is they have a misunderstanding of FF's market clout in the modern market. They think the IP is as paramount to RPGs today as it was in the '90s and early '00s, and expect it to just keep increasing in sales each entry due to the brand name and existing. But they've made many odd choices with the IP in terms of changing up the design style too frequently, broken promises (since at least FF XIII on PS3/360) and the such, in order to capitalize on the brand the way they should've.

Did you read what 8 wrote at all?

You said all FF after FFVII only reached 8 million or more after rereleases or remasters.

That is false.
I just looked 4 games after FFVII and 2 of them already broke your claim.

FF is a popular series which is in decline for years already and FRXVI was not FF to change that.

People keep saying FFXVI is doing good… no it is not… and even the release on PC could not change that even when everybody here keep saying wait for the holidays, wait for the PC port, wait for FFXVI seeks good lol

I received a big slap too… because for me looking at Remake sales thought Rebirth could sell at similar pace but the reality was that the opposite… it sold similar or even worst than FRXVI sadly.

And I agree with you Square Enix has no ideia what FF is anymore and lose it most of the franchise fan base in that identity crisis.

 

[SLB1904]

The fact is Square Misread the market with FF16 and it backfired. It's a great game but the direction they went was not what was needed.

Talk for yourself. Ffxvi is probably the best final fantasy they release. At least better than everything I played from them

 

[FatKaz]

Watching the reviews for this game is putting me to sleep.

Maybe I'll give the demo a try someday.

 

[Muddasar]

Talk for yourself. Ffxvi is probably the best final fantasy they release. At least better than everything I played from them

What other Final Fantasy games have you played?

 

[Danja]

Talk for yourself. Ffxvi is probably the best final fantasy they release. At least better than everything I played from them

Pretty sure my comment said it's a great game, so I dunno why you're taking offense to what I said.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

I'm looking at Xbox top paid and Metaphor is nowhere on the first or second page. Dragon Ball is there so i'm guessing it wasn't updated yet? It shows it was really low on preorders.

The ranking looks weird with the most random games that came out years ago. It's like top paid in 2010 or something. 1 sale is enough to make them jump at the top

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/top-paid/games/xbox

Just to come back to this:

They updated the Xbox top paid and Metaphor debuts at number 37

Just before Silent Hill 2...on Xbox 360

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/top-paid/games/xbox

There's 3 versions of Dragon Ball before Metaphor so that's how low it is. I don't think Dragon Ball had Xbox marketing so not sure why they like it so much.

 

[anonpuffs]

Just to come back to this:

They updated the Xbox top paid and Metaphor debuts at number 37

Just before Silent Hill 2...on Xbox 360

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/top-paid/games/xbox

There's 3 versions of Dragon Ball before Metaphor so that's how low it is. I don't think Dragon Ball had Xbox marketing so not sure why they like it so much.

It's the "how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man" meme all over again

 

[Evilnemesis8]

Just to come back to this:

They updated the Xbox top paid and Metaphor debuts at number 37

Just before Silent Hill 2...on Xbox 360

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/top-paid/games/xbox

There's 3 versions of Dragon Ball before Metaphor so that's how low it is. I don't think Dragon Ball had Xbox marketing so not sure why they like it so much.

DB Sparking! ZERO is selling megaton, it's #1 in the US(and many other countries) on Steam and on PS as well by a landside.
It will be the fastest selling Dragon Ball game ever, beating the recent DB FighterZ and DB: Kakarot.
IIRC Bandai Namco does do first week sales announcement great selling games, so we should be seeing one sometime this week.

 

[Exicide]

Just wait. Only PlayStation is capable in achieving such high numbers with 3rd Party IPs. Square Enix will come to their senses. It's the fanboys from the other camps who will continue to be in denial.

This is highkey tone-deaf.

 

[Exicide]

I'm looking at Xbox top paid and Metaphor is nowhere on the first or second page. Dragon Ball is there so i'm guessing it wasn't updated yet? It shows it was really low on preorders.

The ranking looks weird with the most random games that came out years ago. It's like top paid in 2010 or something. 1 sale is enough to make them jump at the top

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/top-paid/games/xbox

Top paid also includes the money the games make from DLC or microtransactions if I remember correctly but I'm not looking at the site right now.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

DB Sparking! ZERO is selling megaton, it's #1 in the US(and many other countries) on Steam and on PS as well by a landside.
It will be the fastest selling Dragon Ball game ever, beating the recent DB FighterZ and DB: Kakarot.
IIRC Bandai Namco does do first week sales announcement great selling games, so we should be seeing one sometime this week.

I have to say all these Dragon Ball games look the same to me. How do people even know which one they are playing?

The game was zero on my radar until it came out and went to number 1 everywhere

Oh and no comments about the Metaphor performance on Xbox? You're always so careful to not say anything incriminating

UK and Famitsu will be very telling.

Top paid also includes the money the games make from DLC or microtransactions if I remember correctly but I'm not looking at the site right now.

And? You're always quick with the damage control as if that changes anything. Dragon Ball is number 1 and there's 3 separate versions on the ranking so I don't even think you're right anyway. Obviously they are counting them separately.

Metaphor is full price so it should be on top but there's way cheaper stuff higher. 360 games on sale at $5 like FEAR.

You're wrong

 

[Exicide]

I have to say all these Dragon Ball games look the same to me. How do people even know which one they are playing?

The game was zero on my radar until it came out and went to nud? You're always quick with the damage control as if that changes anything. Dragon Ball is number 1 and there's 3 separate versions on the ranking so I don't even think you're right anyway. Obviously they are counting them separately.

Metaphor is full price should be on top but there's way cheaper stuff higher. 360 games on sale at $10.

You're wrong

Clown. Quit assuming shit or i'm just going to ignore you, you are always the most hostile user on this entire forum and it's getting tiring dealing with your bs. I never said Metaphor was going to do great on Xbox, idgaf about how it does on Xbox.

All I said was I thought Top Paid also includes MTX and DLC revenue, that isn't damage control, stfu already with your clown responses to nothing meant for damage control.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Clown. Quit assuming shit or i'm just going to ignore you, you are always the most hostile user on this entire forum and it's getting tiring dealing with your bs. I never said Metaphor was going to do great on Xbox, idgaf about how it does on Xbox.

All I said was I thought Top Paid also includes MTX and DLC revenue, that isn't damage control, stfu already with your clown responses to nothing meant for damage control.

 

[Exicide]

Ignored, you're immature. I'm not talking to children here.

 

[Evilnemesis8]

I have to say all these Dragon Ball games look the same to me. How do people even know which one they are playing?
The game was zero on my radar until it came out and went to number 1 everywhere

I don't play them, but you know I follow sales, so it wasn't a surprise to me.
The IP just has this much pull, plus this particular spin-off hadn't seen a new game since the late 2000s.
The hype was through the roof since the first trailer and people who played hands-on at various events through the summer all said/provided footage which showed exactly what old fans wanted out of a new Tenkaichi game.

Oh and no comments about the Metaphor performance on Xbox? You're always so careful to not say anything incriminating

UK and Famitsu will be very telling.

@ Bold, that's because I'm usually a very conflict averse person. On the first part, the placement on the Xbox link you provided was all that was needed so I didn't feel the need to mention it really, that placement speaks for itself.

I can type a truth in plain text though, Metaphor will not sell much on Xbox.
Regardless, UK/Circana will be the most relevant markets to look out for in terms of splits.

As for Famitsu... I mean...
It's Xbox in Japan...
It's going to be another entry point that will reinforce what we already know, the console is irrelevant in the market.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

I don't play them, but you know I follow sales, so it wasn't a surprise to me.
The IP just has this much pull, plus this particular spin-off hadn't seen a new game since the late 2000s.
The hype was through the roof since the first trailer and people who played hands-on at various events through the summer all said/provided footage which showed exactly what old fans wanted out of a new Tenkaichi game.


@ Bold, that's because I'm usually a very conflict averse person. On the first part, the placement on the Xbox link you provided was all that was needed so I didn't feel the need to mention it really, that placement speaks for itself.

I can type a truth in plain text though, Metaphor will not sell much on Xbox.
Regardless, UK/Circana will be the most relevant markets to look out for in terms of splits.

As for Famitsu... I mean...
It's Xbox in Japan...
It's going to be another entry point that will reinforce what we already know, the console is irrelevant in the market.

I don't know if PSN is bugged but Silent Hill 2 is selling more on its fifth day than Metaphor on its 1st day. It's low on Xbox and PSN but it blew up on Steam because of China. It's an interesting situation because people are celebrating the high CCU but it doesn't look like the game is selling that much.

It was always tracking so low before the reviews so I'm not surprised.

 

[CrackmanNL]

What's the argument here.
Square would be satisfied with 1 million on launch on all platforms?? Let's not kid ourselves here, just shows the different standards and responses.

Katsura Hashino left the Persona team and delivered with the new studio's (Studio Zero) project so great news on that front, they teased Catherine 2 years ago so I expect that next. It does look dated but the game started development with the old engine aka PS3 standards..last gen. The performance no excuses, the fact that the Pro is probably needed hmm. Hopefully P6 is brought to more modern standards.

 

[BillyZ]

What's the argument here.
Square would be satisfied with 1 million on launch on all platforms??

Yes they would. Metaphor shits all over Final Fantasy XVI and it was much cheaper to make. What a disaster by Yoshi-P.

 

[quest4441]

Metaphor started today strong because of overseas. It just peaked even higher as we get closer to Sunday afternoon anemican peak hours… so your attempt to downplay this will continue to look embarrassing.

Nice Sunday afternoon anemican peak hours "peak" bruh