Microsoft Earnings Q4 2022

[ethomaz]

They have nothing to do with the game being on Xbox. Hope you're catching those L's

Sony developed the game lol
They have everything to do with the game being in Xbox.

Game is not made by the publisher itself... Sony developed the game for Xbox... the existence of MLB The Show 22 is tied to Sony.

Sony just accepted to develop a port for Xbox instead to lose or pay more for the license... that is pretty clear.

 

[SonyFanboyTears]

Sony developed the game lol
They have everything to do with the game being in Xbox.

Game is not made by the publisher itself... Sony developed the game for Xbox... the existence of MLB The Show 22 is tied to Sony.

Sony just accepted to develop a port for Xbox instead to lose or pay more for the license... that is pretty clear.

I believe people are talking about from a publishing standpoint. Sony doesn't own the IP.

 

[ethomaz]

I believe people are talking about from a publishing standpoint. Sony doesn't own the IP.

Like EA never owned FIFA.
FIFA is owned by FIFA.
MLB is owned by MLB.
NBA is owned by NBA.

That is obvious.

Sony could choose to release The Show 22 on PlayStation only without ties with MLB… what MLB could release? Nothing and maybe take some years to build a MLB game with a 3rd-party developer.

Wait that is exactly what EA is doing .
And FIFA? Well I have no ideia what they will do but I have a feeling people will buy the new EA Football game over anything FIFA do.

 

[MScarpa]

Like EA never owned FIFA.
FIFA is owned by FIFA.
MLB is owned by MLB.
NBA is owned by NBA.

That is obvious.

Sony could choose to release The Show 22 on PlayStation only without ties with MLB… what MLB could release? Nothing and maybe take some years to build a MLB game with a 3rd-party developer.

Wait that is exactly what EA is doing .
And FIFA? Well I have no ideia what they will do but I have a feeling people will buy the new EA Football game over anything FIFA do.

I might be misunderstanding this but how would you make a MLB game without the license and MLB?

 

[SonyFanboyTears]

Like EA never owned FIFA.
FIFA is owned by FIFA.
MLB is owned by MLB.
NBA is owned by NBA.

That is obvious.

Sony could choose to release The Show 22 on PlayStation only without ties with MLB… what MLB could release? Nothing and maybe take some years to build a MLB game with a 3rd-party developer.

Wait that is exactly what EA is doing .
And FIFA? Well I have no ideia what they will do but I have a feeling people will buy the new EA Football game over anything FIFA do.

Sony can't make an MLB game without the license. They could make a baseball game but not an MLB game.

 

[ethomaz]

I might be misunderstanding this but how would you make a MLB game without the license and MLB?

Like you do a football game without FIFA license lol.

Sony could just launch The Show 22.

 

[Swift_Star]

They have nothing to do with the game being on Xbox. Hope you're catching those L's

The game wouldn’t exist if the Sony developer hadn’t developed it.
You can't have a Sony developed game having not to do with Sony.
Once again, you lost.

 

[SonyFanboyTears]

Like you do a football game without FIFA license lol.

Sony could just launch The Show 22.

No one's denying that. It's the MLB factor people are talking about.

 

[BadBurger]

You apparently can’t read or understand context. Sony had nothing to do with it coming out on Xbox. Better luck next time, warrior. I guess it sucks to create an echo chamber and still be so wrong Not wasting any more time with you.

Why are you unable to follow a conversation and instead move goalposts.

You originally started by saying Sony wouldn't honour contracts or release games on other consoles.

Ask yourself if Sony would have honored existing deals or released games on other consoles like MS has…. answer is hell fucking no.

Sony + the MLB contract completely negates your point entirely.

 

[DarkMage619]

Yes, Sony is more powerful than The Microsoft Corporation because they were able to get Final Fantasy. The White House is sending troops to Sony HQ right now. Winnie the Pooh and Biden are shook

It's funny how MS goes from inept to a monopoly and back based on how people feel in the morning. Make up your mind either Xbox is horrible and will be out of the industry soon or they are beating everyone up.

Bottom line MS has shown the willingness to put their IP on non-Xbox platforms. You don't even need an Xbox to play their games. That is not true of any other platform holders and hardly a sign of the apocalypse just because MS is growing their studios. If Sony wants to do something about it make a better product/services and compete. They've done the timed 3rd party deals for years. Maybe they can try something else.

 

[IntentionalPun]

They have other businesses in Japan but Worldwide they are nothing compared with Microsoft Corporation. It's an entertainment and hardware company.

For every little trivia about Sony you can find, I can find something far worse for MS. It's not even in the same stratosphere. We're talking US and Chinese government ties.Awful attitude.

I'm just laughing about you trying to position Sony as some mom and pop. Not really talking about MS, they can like every company be incredibly shady particularly in the 90s. Both companies act on behalf of millions of shareholders, not consumers. Both companies do business with China too.

TBH though I couldn't care less if MS makes software or AR for the military, nor would I care if Sony has ever sold them TVs or laptops or anything else. That's like the least of my worries with them.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Why are y'all babbling about MLB The Show? lol

Sony buying Bungie means Sony will be publishing games on Xbox.. we know they are willing to do that, much better argument than "Well they didn't give up the MLB The Show license when the MLB asked for an Xbox version."

Sony is also doing PC releases... so they are already moving to support multiple platforms.

Sony is adopting MS's strategy basically, just not as hardcore (yet, and I don't think ever.)

They both have done lots of 3rd party timed exclusivity.. they've both been cheap as shit sometimes or done shady shit in gaming too.

This whole dick measuring contest shit is stupid. Neither company is your friend, it's a bunch of suits figuring out how to leach as much money as possible from consumers.

 

[Swift_Star]

Make up your mind either Xbox is horrible and will be out of the industry soon or they are beating everyone up..

Those things are not necessarily contradictory.
Xbox IS horrible and will be out of the industry if they don't get their shit together.
MS also can buy the whole competition and drive everyone else out of the market.
The point here is that... MS is incompetent.

 

[SonyFanboyTears]

Those things are not necessarily contradictory.
Xbox IS horrible and will be out of the industry if they don't get their shit together.
MS also can buy the whole competition and drive everyone else out of the market.
The point here is that... MS is incompetent.

I remember my first beer.

 

[MScarpa]

Like you do a football game without FIFA license lol.

Sony could just launch The Show 22.

With MLB you need the license to have the teams/players/etc. I'm assuming it's the same with FIFA. You can't just make a game and use the players likeness, as well as the teams. That's the point of the license.

 

[ethomaz]

With MLB you need the license to have the teams/players/etc. I'm assuming it's the same with FIFA. You can't just make a game and use the players likeness, as well as the teams. That's the point of the license.

It is the same for FIFA or any other licence.
That never blocked any dev to create games at all.
You can just put a Cesar Ronaldo or Mike Sardine with similar looking and a shirt with the same colors but modified logo and call a day.

Pro Evolution Soccer existed without have any FIFA related license.

I mean you have Super Mega Baseball 3.

 

[MScarpa]

It is the same for FIFA or any other licence.
That never blocked any dev to create games at all.
You can just put a Cesar Ronaldo or Mike Sardine with similar looking and a shirt with the same colors but modified logo and call a day.

Pro Evolution Soccer existed without have any FIFA related license.

You are absolutely correct. And which one do you think absolutely destroyed the other's in sales?

 

[Gediminas]

With MLB you need the license to have the teams/players/etc. I'm assuming it's the same with FIFA. You can't just make a game and use the players likeness, as well as the teams. That's the point of the license.

fifa is fifa name. players are different association. ea lost fifa name but they still have rights to players. plus, some clubs signed deal with Pro evolution soccer like juventus and etc..

 

[ethomaz]

You are absolutely correct. And which one do you think absolutely destroyed the other's in sales?

I rather say quality was the main drive of sales... both sales where very 50/50 for several years when FIFA started to get 3D animation, facial features and the key point gameplay better tha PES.

PES started to feel dated... it stopped in the time so FIFA dominated.. that happened in 2009 I believe and become more critical with the move to PS4/XB1.

For exemple:
FIFA 09 total: 8.67m
PES 2009 total: 6.87m

That was when PES stated to drop in sales due lower quality... I mean I sued to buy one year FIFA and other year PES like many others Brazilians at the point that around 2008/2009 we started to focus only on FIFA.

Well blame Konami.

 

[MScarpa]

I rather say quality was the main drive of sales... both sales where very 50/50 for several years when FIFA started to get 3D animation, facial features and the key point gameplay better tha PES.

PES started to feel dated... it stopped in the time so FIFA dominated.. that happened in 2009 I believe and become more critical with the move to PS4/XB1.

For exemple:
FIFA 09 total: 8.67m
PES 2009 total: 6.87m

That was when PES stated to drop in sales.

Well blame Konami.

What was the difference last year?