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Microsoft's acquisition of Activison Blizzard
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New statement from Sony. MS asked to redact the document because their deal is shit and they know it.
That's interesting that the redacted parts of the document was at Microsofts request. if they wanted to gain positive views in the eyes of the public, what are they trying to hide?
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Requesting your competition to redact the offer that you proposed to them, so that the public don't think less of you is quite audacious.
I wonder why Sony agreed to keep it redacted? If the shoe was on the other foot, would Microsoft have redacted information for Sony?
I wonder why Sony agreed to keep it redacted? If the shoe was on the other foot, would Microsoft have redacted information for Sony?
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It's interesting that Sony made this statement considering they've been fairly reserved throughout all this. Perhaps they've grown tired of being made the scapegoat in MS' PR circus. Can't say I blame them, really. It's been tiresome watching MS blame everyone but themselves for the difficulties they're facing.
It's been extremely rare to see Sony speak publicly about these proceedings, but in the rare instances they have, their message has been quite consistent. The offer MS extended to them sucks and puts them at a large disadvantage should they accept. They also get to pose the question "If the deal is as generous as MS and Activision claim, why do they want us to redact the details?"
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Yeah but normally companies don’t want to talk publicly about money but MS is clearly trying to control the narrative, while Sony kept it redacted, so it doesn’t it doesn’t burn all the bridges, leave some sort of agreement.
I still think this backfired and Sony realized it was a mistake.
Yesterday I saw a tweet that MS had responded to, saying the fault is from Sony for not making PS plus “better”, clearly this is Sony’s response.
Very tame in comparison to MS aggressiveness.
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Maybe Sony want to keep their nose clean and be whiter than white so they don't come across as someone who wants to "just block the deal".
I think Sony has been pretty clear that they want the deal to be blocked. They're trying to protect their business and customer base. As well, when Jim Ryan said this regarding the initial 3 year offer:
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It may provide some insight into the different approaches of the two companies. Sony has afforded MS a level of respect regarding business discussions between the companies which has not been returned by MS. I prefer Sony's reticence over MS' theatrics, but can also see why they "feel the need to set the record straight' at times.
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I respect Sony's approach to busines. It is very mature and formal. I guess they agreed to redact the information because not doing so would be disrespectful.
That is what I thought but everyone on era was already celebrating and using festive gifs so I had a “are they crazy or am I the crazy one”
Also all the media is saying the deal will go through and siding with MS. It is hard to have a clear perspective on things!
Sony is just acting like any other company would act, trying to leave this out of the court of public opinion.
MS and Activision are the ones being loud and wanting everything to become a media circus.
You think Apple/Google/Amazon would do half the stuff MS would be doing? No. That’s not the way of doing business, especially when you have CMA, EC etc looking at your deal.
It's abundantly clear that MS is unprofessional, just see how they treat their fanbase... they feed bs and makes them into deranged fanboys.
Don't mind Era, they've been cheering for this like crazies. They know shit and only Idas has some sort of insight and he doesn't think the deal will go through easily.
I'm no expert but from what I understand redacting information in these cases is not unusual. Sony clarifying that it was MS who requested it, though, can help prevent a new narrative forming - something like how they offered Sony a great deal, but Sony refused because they're trying to sabotage the merger, for example. After all, if MS prefers the details to be redacted then perhaps it's not something that would gain public approval.
Also, mature and formal is a great way of putting it. I appreciate that too.
Seems like you haven't started reducing the shilling yet. But I'm hopeful
BTW, the whole SH series sold barely around 10 mil. over a 20 years period on multiple platforms. Don't know if you can call that huge. For comparison, the STALKER franchise sold over 15 mil. . Seems like MS moneyhatted a huge franchise, too, right?
There are also many platform exclusives (on both sides), because dev approached one of the platform holders AFTER being rejected by one of the others. Spider-Man, KOTR, Bayonetta for example.
Death Stranding is a first party game, don't know why you even mention it. It's equivalent to Forza Horizon before MS bought the studio.
Btw, why is it always about Sony? Nintendo having Monster Hunter or Dragon Quest for timed exclusivity is not a problem?
m$ is making shit up, that's clear as day, and things like this just proves that.
you clearly didn't understood something. M$ offered contract to Sony. but also m$ requested to redact that offer on those filings. CMA granted that. Sony have no objection why it shouldn't be redacted, it is literally confidential information, Sony did it professionally.
I mean, MS just uploaded their EC presentation today:
Interestingly it's on the Xbox Direct channel, which seems to be French, not Microsoft's main page or even the official Xbox page.
Microsoft are really the only company that have been constantly running to the public on social media to appeal directly to them, even if that makes no sense to do and does nothing for how proceedings behind closed doors are actually going. If I knew there were people like Colteastwood, Jez Corden, Lulu etc. basically pushing yellow journalism to slander my brand in the public eye, I'd probably throw out a bone here or there to remind people what things really look like, too.
At the end of the day Sony is a Japanese company, and they don't tend to be open about turning what should be business handled in business environments, into a spectator sport on social media. Sometimes upper-level Japanese business execs can almost be a tad too cagey; I've been wanting to hear from some of Sega's from the '90s for example and they rarely do interviews to this day.
But the flipside to that is, they don't generally like things turning into a trashy public drama. Versus Microsoft, a non-Japanese company (American, to be specific), who are using Twitter and social media like its a public courtroom, and pays for ad space to push favor for the deal through with the Daily Mail, the UK equivalent of a tabloid magazine.
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They may have different opinions and at times things can get heated but they pretty much always keep their cool and avoid insults and that type of stuff.
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