Microsoft's acquisition of Activison Blizzard

Johnic

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Who says they have to look at the "high end" console market only? Era?

FTC said that for USA because it makes sense for that market, other countries don't have to use it. And Microsoft themselves don't see Nintendo as competition in their own documents. Sony didn't made it up.
Yeah. What happens if Nintendo releases a high end console to compete with the PS5/Xbox? What happens to the market share then?

Back on topic, if both the CMA an EU are now focused on cloud, what would remedies in that market even look like? With consoles it was clear that a remedy would be release and content parity. But I don't see how any cloud remedies could stop MS from charging exorbitant licensing fees from BYOG cloud providers.
That's why any remedies besides selling off parts of the company being purchased are hard to implement. There are simply too many holes MS could use to get around them. Sure, COD would be on all platforms but at what price? It's the same argument they used when they said they'll allow COD on Plus.
 

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Who says they have to look at the "high end" console market only? Era?

FTC said that for USA because it makes sense for that market, other countries don't have to use it. And Microsoft themselves don't see Nintendo as competition in their own documents. Sony didn't made it up.
THANK YOU. Add it to the FUD thread. I'm sick of hearing that lie propagated by Xbox filth peddlers.

As for the USA, @Loy310 inadvertently described it best. Senators who work for the highest bidder are the definition of corruption.
 

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Back on topic, if both the CMA an EU are now focused on cloud, what would remedies in that market even look like? With consoles it was clear that a remedy would be release and content parity. But I don't see how any cloud remedies could stop MS from charging exorbitant licensing fees from BYOG cloud providers.
That's why any remedies besides selling off parts of the company being purchased are hard to implement. There are simply too many holes MS could use to get around them. Sure, COD would be on all platforms but at what price? It's the same argument they used when they said they'll allow COD on Plus.
Afaik they've yet to make a licensing deal with a non byog multi game subscriptions provider like sony and amazon luna which CMA identified as key competitiors.

Sony even raised concerns with the pricing that MS offered in a response to the original PF.

Regulators will need to figure out a way to control and monitor that pricing for years(have fun CMA), or else MS will no doubt price is it all the way up to the moon to make it not worth it.

Last week was also easter/school holidays so i wonder if they held back releasing anything to this week for folks to comeback, and that's why we haven't heard anything. But then again holding back this late is cutting it really close.
 
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THANK YOU. Add it to the FUD thread. I'm sick of hearing that lie propagated by Xbox filth peddlers.

As for the USA, @Loy310 inadvertently described it best. Senators who work for the highest bidder are the definition of corruption.
Corruption, its legal to accept donations, and they work for their donors. Its not corrupt, its us politics.
 

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Kinda disappointed in Sacred Symbols podcast. They actually used Foss Patents as a source, thinking he's an objective source of information in their latest episode and seemed to believe his claims about Sony being underhanded and ghostwriting the new response to the judge in the 'Gamer's lawsuit'.
 

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Kinda disappointed in Sacred Symbols podcast. They actually used Foss Patents as a source, thinking he's an objective source of information in their latest episode and seemed to believe his claims about Sony being underhanded and ghostwriting the new response to the judge in the 'Gamer's lawsuit'.
Sacred Symbols is kinda.... crappy recently.
They are between rock and a hard place. They always seem to have some real, genuine leaks but it's too much too share. So they play this "aaahhhh we might suggest something but not really" game all the time.
 
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Sacred Symbols is kinda.... crappy recently.
They are between rock and a hard place. They always seem to have some real, genuine leaks but it's too much too share. So they play this "aaahhhh we might suggest something but not really" game all the time.
Maybe their sources told them if they slip to much, they won’t be provided with further stuff. We know especially Sony and Nintendo are very unforgiving for leaks.
 

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I swear Xbox discussion on forums is just about who they buy next, No actual discourse on the games they make
Funny but true. In ps4 era they talked about ms buying ea, cdpr, capcom. No games so they tqlk about that. They did make some moves but still no worthwhile games.
 

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Apparently folks (Xbox zealots and some politicians) are mad at Lina Khan for supposedly working with foreign regulators to 'undermine' an American company in MS, lmao.
 
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It was always gonna happen
Yep, attack anyone who isn't in favor of what they're doing. It also doesn't hurt that they might be using this to shift the conversation away from them losing digital foundry comparisons and sales news back towards this deal.
 

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Apparently folks (Xbox zealots and some politicians) are mad at Lina Khan for supposedly working with foreign regulators to 'undermine' an American company in MS, lmao.

I've been cheering for her from the start. Seen all manner of abuse hurled her way - about her looks, her intelligence, her motives, her gender, etc. - but she is one of the few regulators who is doing her job in this situation. If more were like her, there would be less companies like MS in the first place.
 

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