OT | Platform Port-Begging Discussion.

[Deleted member 13]

Doesn't have to but the few owners I've spoken have said have high settings tanks frame rate and battery life.

And that's a near five year-old game.

I don't know how your owner friends are using the device. In GoW, it's better to limit the FPS to 40fps and lock that profile down. It will run fine with no dips. Battery life is supposed to be used up. The GPU/CPU are getting hit hard with most games. Keep it plugged in is the solution.

Despite it being a 5yr old game - there aren't many games out right now that trump it's graphics capabilites. Unless the game has RT, these 5yr old games implement the same graphics features as the games released in 2022.

 

[Deleted member 13]

Wow, with Steam Deck docked you can be run GoW native 4K on your 4K OLED!

I never said that. You are being an a-hole again. I mentioned several times that it can run nearly max settings on PC games since it can be locked to 800p and 30FPS. It's just like GoW:R and HFW being locked down to 30FPS when it goes true 4k on a PS5 (i.e. IT has limited bandwidth too).

 

[Deleted member 13]

People greatly underestimate this device, they also forget that at 30 FPS bar RT anything can be run on it at high'ish settings or beyond.

They just want to hate on it because it's not a PS VITA. Oh well....

 

[Darth Vader]

Where does this come from that steam deck has to run on lower settings?

I can run GoW 2018 with settings equal to GoWR.
The ONLY drawback is RT. The resolution is inherent in the LCD screen. It's a perfect compromise to lowering render settings. I can choose to run a game as I wish. More flexible than consoles.

No you can't, because GoW ragnarok on the PS5 is above PC maxed out settings and runs at 4k to boot. You don't need to lie to make a point.

 

[Kokoloko]

No you can't, because GoW ragnarok on the PS5 is above PC maxed out settings and runs at 4k to boot. You don't need to lie to make a point.

I don’t know about GOW R, but Horizon 2 at 60FPS looked way better what Ive seen of Horizon ZD on PC high settings

 

[Muddasar]

That's kinda contradictory.

Tbh the amount of begging I've seen for Bloodborne and Gran Turismo has been particularly undignified coming from a so-called master race (that's an offensive term).

Bloodborne is an exception. Playstation gamers aren't even getting a patch for the game let alone a port to PC. Japan studio is gone and FS are busy doing other things.

Gran Turismo was on the Nvidia leak list. It being online only makes it very likely to join the list of ports in the future. Just wait till the sales dry up on playstation and watch it get announced on PC.

 

[PropellerEar]

I never said that. You are being an a-hole again. I mentioned several times that it can run nearly max settings on PC games since it can be locked to 800p and 30FPS. It's just like GoW:R and HFW being locked down to 30FPS when it goes true 4k on a PS5 (i.e. IT has limited bandwidth too).

Then it's not running the same settings.

 

[Dick Jones]

PT on the PS5

 

[SSfox]

Fucking hell it's getting like ResetEra on here!!

 

[DynamiteCop]

Then it's not running the same settings.

Given PPI and framerate it likely is.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Deleted member 13]

Then it's not running the same settings.

I'm talking about Graphics features.. 16x A/F, Texture Resolution, HDAO, etc.. etc.. you know the ones that you consider "potatoes"?

 

[Deleted member 13]

No you can't, because GoW ragnarok on the PS5 is above PC maxed out settings and runs at 4k to boot. You don't need to lie to make a point.

OK. Let me get very detailed with you so that there is no debating it. And I don't appreciate you telling me I'm lying. There is no need for me to lie about stuff that's literally obvious and/or can be cross-referenced with information on the internet.

The following rendering additions were made to GoW:R from PS4 version:

1) SSDO (Directional ambient occlusion) : this is by far the most significant enhancement made to the game second only to the added micro-detail normal maps. It's an expensive rendering technique added to GoW:R. It was a feature added to the PS5 from GoW(2018) for the PC. It runs on my Steam Deck.

2) Reflection/Cube Maps higher resolution. The PC version of GoW (2018) had a lower resolution in the graphics settings. I'm pretty sure they went up 2x in MIP level. In other words, if they used 512x512 reflection maps in 2018, they are 1024x1024 for GoW:R. I will be able to select it on SD.

3) Motion Blur Quality. DF actually found that the PS4 version of Moblur was smoother and looked better running at 30FPS vs. the PS5's version of moblur. This is unimportant to me, but it'll run on SD.

4) Added layer (micro) of the normal map detail on top of the macro detail texture - This is certainly the biggest difference between PS4 and PS5's screenshot comparison. It will take a little more texture memory for the added layer. When it releases on the PC, it will be baked into the "texture resolution" graphics settings. Matching the PS5 would take up more texture memory but it's unknown whether it will lower FPS. I will be able to select it on the SD.

Finally, note in the video by DF @ time : 17:05, they mention how it looks like a PC version of GoW:R from PS4 version.

*NOTE* these games don't "know" that they are being run on a steam deck so the option will be there to select it.

If you think that the Steam Deck won't run GoW:R with PS5 settings @ 30FPS, then declare that now so we can prove it once it releases on the PC.

 

[Sircaw]

Can we please have everyone be a bit more respectful to one another in this thread,

There are some very brash comments being thrown about, please refrain from letting things get personal.

Please make your points and keep the ad hominem garbage out.

And remember.

Fish rule, love you all.

Except @TubzGaming

xxxxxx

 

[arvfab]

If it releases on the PC

Fixed it for you. You're welcome.

 

[Darth Vader]

f you think that the Steam Deck won't run GoW:R with PS5 settings @ 30FPS, then declare that now so we can prove it once it releases on the PC.

Looking forward to seeing your steam deck running it at 4k with the same settings as the PS5. Challenge accepted.

And btw, no matter how much you spin it, PS5 GoW Ragnarok looks better than maxed out PC GoW. Just like PS5 Forbidden West looks better than maxed ou PC Zero Dawn.

Just take the L.

 

[PropellerEar]

I'm talking about Graphics features.. 16x A/F, Texture Resolution, HDAO, etc.. etc.. you know the ones that you consider "potatoes"?

Super low end spuds at 800p 30fps.

 

[Deleted member 13]

Looking forward to seeing your steam deck running it at 4k with the same settings as the PS5. Challenge accepted.

Steam Deck will run it on it's native resolution 800p. It's not a console that goes in your living room.

And btw, no matter how much you spin it, PS5 GoW Ragnarok looks better than maxed out PC GoW. Just like PS5 Forbidden West looks better than maxed ou PC Zero Dawn.

I never said otherwise.

Just take the L.

This isn't a competition.

 

[Darth Vader]

Steam Deck will run it on it's native resolution 800p. It's not a console that goes in your living room.

Then it can't run on the same settings. I guess I win this bet.

 

[Deleted member 13]

Then it can't run on the same settings. I guess I win this bet.

I never said it ran at the same resolution. I was talking about the graphics settings.

But I digress.. if you think SD is trash, so be it.

NOTE: I guess you can understand a PCMR guy saying the same thing when comparing a high-end PC being vastly better than a PS5 version due to the resolution being native 4k and running at 60FPS...

 

[PropellerEar]

Steam Deck will run it on it's native resolution 800p. It's not a console that goes in your living room.

Steam is themselves marketing it as such.