Phil Spencer admits defeat in console space, and doesn't think great games would help Xbox's market share.

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The problem with Crook Spencer (and his crook company) is that they want to beat Sony. That's their sole motivation. They don't care about anything else and it's painfully obvious to everyone after this interview.
 
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What is Phil supposed to though. All the lying & sneaky crap.Has led them to where they are now. So it's better for him to tell the truth for once.It's more devastating to The cultist bots. Not to us that already knew. End of the day. All he did was tell his cultist that he is not in Michael Jordan/Messi PS class in gaming space. They are not interested in gaming. They just want to control the market via distribution & paywalls.
 
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I dunno you love Benji or not ( well, i don't like him very much ), but he has interensting takes and he literally denying what Phil Spencer said in this video from a seller view. Well, worth watching :

 
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If great games could turn it around for them why would it even matter anyway? They don't have great games and won't have them anytime soon.

"We'll just start making great game from now on" is not a reasonable plan and would just mean them continuing to do whatever it is that they have done all along.


So Phil is working to improve Xbox’s relationship with Square Enix? That must be the reason why they haven't released a single game for Xbox in 2023 nor have they announced any Xbox game for the future.
 
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With him complaining about "competitors making a very discrete focus on doing deals and other things that make being Xbox hard for us, as a team." I wonder if its more than final fantasy that hes upset about? Like i wonder if sony has some pretty big gets weve yet to see?
Like what else? GTA, RE, MGS, SH, SF, MegaMan, MonHun, Sports titles even MLB, Day 1 GP games vs buying on PS like Outriders, all multiplaform. Is he that butthurt over Demons Souls and BloodBourne? Dark Souls & Elden Ring is still multiplaform?

Meanwhile they've PS have lost the relationships and seen whole series like Yakuza and Persona go multiplaform re-releases etc.

Am I missing something?
 

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Phil leaving won't save xbox. I believe most of xbox problems are rooted in the overall corporate culture.
 

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I dunno you love Benji or not ( well, i don't like him very much ), but he has interensting takes and he literally denying what Phil Spencer said in this video from a seller view. Well, worth watching :

So even Benji, who tries to be super positive for everyone, thinks Phil is wrong here? lol
 

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Like what else? GTA, RE, MGS, SH, SF, MegaMan, MonHun, Sports titles even MLB, Day 1 GP games vs buying on PS like Outriders, all multiplaform. Is he that butthurt over Demons Souls and BloodBourne? Dark Souls & Elden Ring is still multiplaform?

Meanwhile they've PS have lost the relationships and seen whole series like Yakuza and Persona go multiplaform re-releases etc.

Am I missing something?
Who knows? I doubt anything huge like a gta or monster hunter would be exclsuive but maybe konami and more square games are? He's a petty and trying to look weak to appease regulators so who knows?
 

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What do you think of your man Phil throwing in the towel there?

You must be pretty disgusted with his rhetoric.
Phil's message is pretty clear. It's not about selling the most consoles worldwide. They have a different business model. It's about cloud gaming and Game Pass subs.
Soon they're going to own Activision-Blizzard and then Sega or Capcom (or both). Game Pass will dominate the gaming market (Netflix of Gaming) with Game Pass and with consoles in the USA.
The rest doesn't matter.
 
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Phil's message is pretty clearl. It's not about selling the most consoles worldwide. They have a different business model. It's about cloud gaming and Game Pass subs.
Soon they're going to own Activision-Blizzard and then Sega or Capcom (or both). Game Pass will dominate the gaming market (Netflix of Gaming) with Game Pass and with consoles in the USA.
The rest doesn't matter.
Shut up ChatGPT.
 
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What is Phil supposed to though. All the lying & sneaky crap.Has led them to where they are now. So it's better for him to tell the truth for once.It's more devastating to The cultist bots. Not to us that already knew. End of the day. All he did was tell his cultist that he is not in Michael Jordan/Messi PS class in gaming space. They are not interested in gaming. They just want to control the market via distribution & paywalls.
It felt weasely though. If that was him telling the truth, he did it in a PR corporate way. Kaz Hirai did an apology properly.

Maybe I'm being too harsh on Spencer...nahh he deserves it for ruining the xbox.
 

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Phil's message is pretty clearl. It's not about selling the most consoles worldwide. They have a different business model. It's about cloud gaming and Game Pass subs.
Soon they're going to own Activision-Blizzard and then Sega or Capcom (or both). Game Pass will dominate the gaming market (Netflix of Gaming) with Game Pass and with consoles in the USA.
The rest doesn't matter.
Do you post this stuff for attention or just to get a rise from people? I refuse to believe, you believe what you type so i have to assume you are god-tier troll committed to your bit or someone desperately seeking attention on internet forums so you post alternative reality fantasies. Take a look around you man, the SS Xbox has hit the iceberg and the ship is sinking. Dear leader admitted defeat today. Go outside, call some friends up, shoot your shot with that woman you like, but please stop, for your own mental health man.
 

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Phil's message is pretty clearl. It's not about selling the most consoles worldwide. They have a different business model. It's about cloud gaming and Game Pass subs.
Soon they're going to own Activision-Blizzard and then Sega or Capcom (or both). Game Pass will dominate the gaming market (Netflix of Gaming) with Game Pass and with consoles in the USA.
The rest doesn't matter.
Wha... What?
I've not seen the full video yet, but are you saying the first major interview he gave agree being denied the merger based on cloud... Is to say their business model is cloud gaming and GP subs?

I need to watch in full, that sounds incredibly stupid to highlight or say outright. Is this some kind of money laundering 3B kickback to ABK somehow? No one involved seems to be acting like in ways that would make it go through.
 
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Gamepass is on xbox. If you don't sell xboxs, how do you sell gamepass subs?
 
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Sure, but how do you advertise the cloud?

Steam has valve/PC
Google Stadia had the...stadia
Nvidia Now had the shield
King has android
Apple has Iphone
Amazon is the exception as it isn't backed up with physical hardware outside the firestick.

How would Xbox advertise Xcloud? It doesn't fill people with confidence if they can the xbox console then advertise a streaming service where you own nothing.
 

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Notice how anytime Japan is mentioned they start with this "away team" and foreigner rhetoric, same thing they told their US senators to say about Sony. How about they actually act like the multi national company they are and hire localization experts in those countries, instead of crying that they're some poor american company that will never be respected. Phil is probably the worse CEO ever, but I'm sure like all CEOs he gets multi million dollar stock bonuses for being so bad at his job.