Phil Spencer: Japan is the most growing market for Xbox - Switch and PS users as part of Xbox community

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Sony isnt watching anything lol. They are in lala land coasting off PS4’s success.
I hope the new leadership is gonna change things up and bring back some old School JPN Playstation along with the PS4 international success

Oh shut the hell up with this narrative already.
Sorry, you’ve mistaken me as someone who cares about the moral through line of all this. I’m just voicing very obvious truths.

There’s an important context to that truth. There’s context to everything.
 

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This article makes my blood boil. Customers have rejected Xbox for years so he keeps buying properties to force customers in their ecosystem, even on rival platforms. This should not be allowed but regulators are useless.

It’s not about being right, they own franchises not previously known as Xbox brands but now are. Anyone playing those games from here on out will be contributing to Xbox’s ecosystem.
But over 2/3 played Starfield on the existing platform they already had (PC). Console sales (the real Xbox ecosystem) were actually down so customers, once again, rejected their ecosystem. I don't see that as a success at all.
 

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This article makes my blood boil. Customers have rejected Xbox for years so he keeps buying properties to force customers in their ecosystem, even on rival platforms. This should not be allowed but regulators are useless.


But over 2/3 played Starfield on the existing platform they already had (PC). Console sales (the real Xbox ecosystem) were actually down so customers, once again, rejected their ecosystem. I don't see that as a success at all.
Microsoft is a software company first. Their ecosystem is whoever is buying shit with their name on the back.
 
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They won’t go anywhere with this fake Kumbaya. Microsoft may deceived Sony twice but they will not manage to do it a third time for guaranteed. Microsoft’s true intentions were exposed at court. The Mails are the real proof for Microsoft trying to disturb the industry violently and stealing the effort of competitors. Sony may be slowpokes but they are not this blind to not see who is the real threat here. Sony’s hatred for Microsoft did rise on a new level with the fight over Activision. Sony will do countermeasures and get revenge on corporate terms. To hell with Microsoft and all his hillbilly followers.
 

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Sony is an entertainment company. Their ecosystem is whoever buys their music, films, TV shows, games, consoles, CD, Blu ray, downloads, Destiny, MLB, comics, toys.

That's how it works?
Sony and Microsoft are two different companies. What are you saying with this?
 

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Sony and Microsoft are two different companies. What are you saying with this?
Are we going to start counting anybody that interact with a Sony product (tv, sound bar, bluray player) as being part of their ecosystem? If I buy a Frozen gift bag at the dollar store am I part of the Disney ecosystem?

That's sound silly as fuck. No other company counts their ecosystem that way. Let's not start with Microsoft just to give them more importance.

It might work on XboxEra when they masturbate thinking about Phil but it's complete BS.
 

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Are we going to start counting anybody that interact with a Sony product (tv, sound bar, bluray player) as being part of their ecosystem? If I buy a Frozen gift bag at the dollar store am I part of the Disney ecosystem?

That's sound silly as fuck. No other company counts their ecosystem that way. Let's not start with Microsoft just to give them more importance.

It might work on XboxEra when they masturbate thinking about Phil but it's complete BS.
Sony relies on that hardware sale much more than Microsoft does. Sony would damn near tank without PlayStation selling consoles. Is this lost on you? It’s not a positive or negative thing. Maybe that’s what you’re hung up on.
 

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Sony relies on that hardware sale much more than Microsoft does. Sony would damn near tank without PlayStation selling consoles. Is this lost on you? It’s not a positive or negative thing. Maybe that’s what you’re hung up on.
I think what's lost on you is the word ecosystem. Gamepass and xbox hardware the only true Xbox ecosystem's. We know both of those have been either declining or flat. Someone purchasing a Bethesda game on Steam or an Acti game on Playstation is not a part of an Xbox ecosystem, because they are literally still in valve/Playstation's platform.
 

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I think what's lost on you is the word ecosystem. Gamepass and xbox hardware the only true Xbox ecosystem's. We know both of those have been either declining or flat. Someone purchasing a Bethesda game on Steam or an Acti game on Playstation is not a part of an Xbox ecosystem, because they are literally still in valve/Playstation's platform.
Phil is talking about the sale because he’s a company man. Whatever ecosystem literally means is less of my concern. It’s beside the point.
 
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What's really annoying about the whole 'ecosystem' thing is that a big deal was made about playstation & Xbox consoles being 'high end' to separate them from Nintendo switch but when it comes to statistics of users they're happy to group pc , Xbox , playstation & Nintendo together for Xbox games

Phil may be happy to group people that way, but I doubt anyone else is buying it. I know I'm not. It just comes off as yet another way to give more importance and weight to XBox - similar to engagement numbers. If we're going that route, then people who play MLB: The Show on XBox are part of the PS community. It's all just meaningless bullshit, the kind that Phil specializes in.