PlayStation 5 share in France vs Xbox reaches 93% vs 7%

Dabaus

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A generation ago this would've been awful news for MS. But today the hardware sales are only one part of the Xbox strategy. Gamepass isn't solely reliant on Xbox consoles, and with the acquisition of Activision they have a massive PC and mobile presence. As for the big exclusives, there will be an avalanche of them in the next few years.
 

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Confusing name that doesn't differentiate at all from One S and One X
Bland console design
Weaker than PS5
Stupid as shit multi SKU at launch
Literally no games which gained any mass interests for 3 years since launch until Starfield which floppeda
That coming off a whole generation with games
Anti consumer consolidation methods
Perpetual undermining of the value proposition of games, making releases lose impact (see Netflix movie vs theatre movie releases for more - or a million studies done on perceptions of low value for low priced products)

I'm shocked it is doing poorly

It must be the Xbox Tax
 

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A generation ago this would've been awful news for MS. But today the hardware sales are only one part of the Xbox strategy. Gamepass isn't solely reliant on Xbox consoles, and with the acquisition of Activision they have a massive PC and mobile presence. As for the big exclusives, there will be an avalanche of them in the next few years.
It's horrible news for them. They have zero meaningful presence on PC. So yeah they are basically on their way to being a third party publisher with a mobile game
 

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It's horrible news for them. They have zero meaningful presence on PC. So yeah they are basically on their way to being a third party publisher with a mobile game
They don't have to worry about that after Activision blizzard acquisition since ABK alone has made more profits this year than Sony PlayStation. Profits margin for hardware is too small for both companies. So, hardware sales aren't going to make too much difference when it comes to profitability.

Profits this year
Activision blizzard - $1.38bn(6 months)
Sony PlayStation - $0.991bn(9 months)
Nintendo - $2.72bn(9 months)
Electronic Arts - $1.21bn(9 months)
 
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They don't have to worry about that after Activision blizzard acquisition since ABK alone has made more profits this year than Sony PlayStation. Profits margin for hardware is too small for both companies. So, hardware sales aren't going to make too much difference when it comes to profitability.

Profits this year
Activision blizzard - $1.38bn(6 months)
Sony PlayStation - $0.991bn(9 months)
Nintendo - $2.72bn(9 months)
Electronic Arts - $1.21bn(9 months)
Nope they are 70 billion in the hole for ABK. They'll be profitable in about 30 years
 

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Nope they are 70 billion in the hole for ABK. They'll be profitable in about 30 years
Need to chime in. Asset cost is not correlated to business as usual revenue & profit. If that $70b carries interest payments then only that interest cost can be attributed to the profit/loss.

Why? because the asset value is transferable.
 

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They don't have to worry about that after Activision blizzard acquisition since ABK alone has made more profits this year than Sony PlayStation. Profits margin for hardware is too small for both companies. So, hardware sales aren't going to make too much difference when it comes to profitability.

Profits this year
Activision blizzard - $1.38bn(6 months)
Sony PlayStation - $0.991bn(9 months)
Nintendo - $2.72bn(9 months)
Electronic Arts - $1.21bn(9 months)
I'm looking forward to when you get banned again, sleepy.
 
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Why? because the asset value is transferable.
This doesn't mean much since Microsoft got fleeced, no one is paying close to 69 billion for ABK anymore, its now worth 40bill at most and thats being generous.
They don't have to worry about that after Activision blizzard acquisition since ABK alone has made more profits this year than Sony PlayStation. Profits margin for hardware is too small for both companies. So, hardware sales aren't going to make too much difference when it comes to profitability.

Profits this year
Activision blizzard - $1.38bn(6 months)
Sony PlayStation - $0.991bn(9 months)
Nintendo - $2.72bn(9 months)
Electronic Arts - $1.21bn(9 months)
The "Nintendo fan" rushing to Xbox's defense as usual 😂🤡
A generation ago this would've been awful news for MS. But today the hardware sales are only one part of the Xbox strategy. Gamepass isn't solely reliant on Xbox consoles, and with the acquisition of Activision they have a massive PC and mobile presence. As for the big exclusives, there will be an avalanche of them in the next few years.
This is false, like @Yobo said, their PC presence is minuscule. PC GamePass is operating at a loss and has pretty much already reached its limit and their games barely sell on Steam. Mobile has always been a joke, ABK will improve it a lot, but not enough to be significant. And by Microsoft's own admission, almost no one is using xCloud. 99% of people don't want to play Starfield, Forza, and CoD through the cloud on their phone or TV. Their only avenue for growth is the console, they NEED to sell more consoles, so yes it's still awful news for them.
 

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Turned out what I said in these forums at early of the gen is true.

Series was in worst state than Xbox One at launch in all fronts. But greens keep saying the buzz word was the best ever lol

Since launch is only downhill while Xbox One was at least consistent.

Absolutely.

Imagine if there wasn’t a supply shortage at launch which in reality only affected PS5.
 
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This doesn't mean much since Microsoft got fleeced, no one is paying close to 69 billion for ABK anymore, its now worth 40bill at most and thats being generous.
Quite likely, probably worth less then a used condom by the time MS is done with it. But still unrelated to operational revenue
 
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Jurassic Park Ian Malcom GIF
 

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A generation ago this would've been awful news for MS. But today the hardware sales are only one part of the Xbox strategy. Gamepass isn't solely reliant on Xbox consoles, and with the acquisition of Activision they have a massive PC and mobile presence. As for the big exclusives, there will be an avalanche of them in the next few years.
This same post was made at Era word for word and a lot of people in that thread accused the poster of being a Microsoft shill because it reads like PR, either you're the same person, a shill reading from the same script (more likely) or mocking the Era post.
 
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They don't have to worry about that after Activision blizzard acquisition since ABK alone has made more profits this year than Sony PlayStation. Profits margin for hardware is too small for both companies. So, hardware sales aren't going to make too much difference when it comes to profitability.

Profits this year
Activision blizzard - $1.38bn(6 months)
Sony PlayStation - $0.991bn(9 months)
Nintendo - $2.72bn(9 months)
Electronic Arts - $1.21bn(9 months)
I love how he is mispresenting info again.


FY2022 SIE operating profit is 1.63B Dollars, while ABK is 1.5B Dollars.

Sure you could cherry picking data all you want, doesn't change anything lol.
 

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Need to chime in. Asset cost is not correlated to business as usual revenue & profit. If that $70b carries interest payments then only that interest cost can be attributed to the profit/loss.

Why? because the asset value is transferable.
Yes they will hide the cost of the purchase with accounting methods. Doesn't change the fact that every results going forward is now measured against a 70 billion price tag
 

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Code:
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|     FRANCE      |    2013    |    2014    |    2015    |    2016    |    2017    |    2018    |    2019    |    2020    |    2021    |    2022    |     LTD     |
+-----------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| PlayStation 4   |    240.000 |    870.000 |  1.055.000 |  1.060.000 |  1.008.000 |    940.000 |    550.000 |    294.000 |     90.000 |     20.000 |   6.127.000 |
| Switch          |      -     |      -     |      -     |      -     |    911.000 |  1.130.000 |  1.250.000 |  1.445.000 |  1.231.000 |    987.000 |   7.090.000 |
| PlayStation 5   |      -     |      -     |      -     |      -     |      -     |      -     |      -     |    165.000 |    600.000 |    442.000 |   1.207.000 |
| Xbox Series X|S |      -     |      -     |      -     |      -     |      -     |      -     |      -     |     86.000 |    214.000 |    272.000 |     572.000 |
+-----------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
 
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