PS5 Pro hate: "Microsoft is tossing money into the campaign to cast doubt" says HeisenbergFX4

ToTTenTranz

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The "Road to PS5" presentation from Mark Cerny has a 3:1 like/dislike ratio while the new "PS5 Pro Technical Presentation" reversed that to 1:3.
The PS5 Pro announcement trailer has Sony's dislike ratio's record of almost 1:5.


I guess Microsoft must be paying all these hundreds of thousands of YouTube accounts to downvote and other hundreds of thousands not to upvote.


Or maybe SIE's current CFO-turned-interim-CEO-turned-chairman is a bean counter that is a little bit out of touch about his consumer base, and the general public response is only a symptom of that.
Time will tell.
 
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The "Road to PS5" presentation from Mark Cerny has a 3:1 like/dislike ratio while the new "PS5 Pro Technical Presentation" reversed that to 1:3.
The PS5 Pro announcement trailer has Sony's dislike ratio's record of almost 1:5.


I guess Microsoft must be paying all these hundreds of thousands of YouTube accounts to downvote and other hundreds of thousands not to upvote.


Or maybe SIE's current CFO-turned-interim-CEO-turned-chairman is a bean counter that is a little bit out of touch about his consumer base, and the general public response is only a symptom of that.
Time will tell.
People dont like the price that's the only reason for the dislikes.
 

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People dont like the price that's the only reason for the dislikes.

1- Price

2 - Tiered prices by having much higher markups outside the USA. No one likes to hear they're 2nd rate customers but Sony just shoved that in their faces.

3 - Push for digital only, where Sony achieves a monopoly in distribution and gets to dictate game prices. Physical copies are often found cheaper than the same game on PSN.

4 - New console sold as a premium device with premium price gets sold with barebone software and accessories: no games, one standard controller, no disc drive, not even vertical stand that probably costs Sony like $3.


Everything about the PS5 Pro just screams of Sony saying you'll just pay up like the little bitches that you are and be glad I'm not charging twice as much.

Sony's back to their PS3 era attitude. Everyone outside Icon Era hates that and that's not Microsoft's fault, at least not directly.
 

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1- Price

2 - Tiered prices by having much higher markups outside the USA. No one likes to hear they're 2nd rate customers but Sony just shoved that in their faces.

3 - Push for digital only, where Sony achieves a monopoly in distribution and gets to dictate game prices. Physical copies are often found cheaper than the same game on PSN.

4 - New console sold as a premium device with premium price gets sold with barebone software and accessories: no games, one standard controller, no disc drive, not even vertical stand that probably costs Sony like $3.


Everything about the PS5 Pro just screams of Sony saying you'll just pay up like the little bitches that you are and be glad I'm not charging twice as much.

Sony's back to their PS3 era attitude. Everyone outside Icon Era hates that and that's not Microsoft's fault, at least not directly.
Then how come we haven't seen this much outrage over the only $100 cheaper Series X, announced recently? How about some of the GPU prices? Why is there a disproportionate amount of hate for a Sony product, compared to the other ones?
 

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Time for the DOJ to step in; some damn near scummy political campaign level tactics here and I wouldn't put it past Microsoft. They did this and much worst during 2022 and 2023 when trying to get support for purchasing ABK.
They should have stepped into the minute Microsoft got republicans to attack foreign allies last year over a darn publisher buyout
 

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Then how come we haven't seen this much outrage over the only $100 cheaper Series X, announced recently? How about some of the GPU prices? Why is there a disproportionate amount of hate for a Sony product, compared to the other ones?

There was plenty of hate towards Xbox when they increased console prices in Japan, when they closed down Tango and again when they inevitably tiered and increased Gamepass prices.


Though it's only natural that a lot more people are irritated about Sony's change of strategy than there would ever be about anything Xbox, considering the latter's active userbase is probably 4x larger at the moment.
 
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They should have stepped into the minute Microsoft got republicans to attack foreign allies last year over a darn publisher buyout

Damn I had completely forgotten about that. What a scum company.
 
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Then how come we haven't seen this much outrage over the only $100 cheaper Series X, announced recently? How about some of the GPU prices? Why is there a disproportionate amount of hate for a Sony product, compared to the other ones?
The XBOX SX is in crisis right now, and it's basically living out its days, so no one is even paying attention to it.

The only thing MS can do with the XSX is to officially turn it into a Windows PC, and start putting pressure on regulators to force Sony and Nintendo to do the same (not in terms of installing Windows, but in terms of allowing alternative sources of software installation).
 

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If he's comfortable sharing this stuff it's because things are very bad at Xbox 😬
They probably have 2 camps.

1 is the salty and mad camp, consisting of spencer, booty, greenberg and bond. This is the crew still fighting.

The other crew is satya, amy hood and tim stuart that crew will put and end to the first crew slowly and as painfully as possible.
 
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I mean it's nothing unexpected at this point. We know Microsoft spends money on astroturfing campaigns. If the Activision deal fiasco didn't pull the mask off, then I dunno what would.

However Some of the blame also lies on Sony. They've been sitting on this machine for quite awhile and they thought the best way to showcase it was using Remastered PS4 games?

They could not have gotten one single 3rd party to come on board to showcase the new improvements for their brief video?

This company is literally out of touch with an audience they are try to bleedy dry.
They cut the marketing department. They don't have good people there who know the fuck about videogames. Probably all they have are few fat purple one side shaved hair chicks.
 

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I have a theory that the reason Microsoft keeps Phil Spencer in charge despite continuously failing as an executive is because Microsoft's and his goal is not to make Xbox succeed in gaming, but rather to disrupt the gaming industry and destroy Sony at any cost. There's no other reasonable explanation for how that dude is allowed to fail over and over and over, any other executive would have been replaced 5 years ago. If you have seen the interviews with former Xbox executives you will know that Microsoft only entered gaming because they didn't want Sony to dominate the living room.
 
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How absolutely unexpected. I believe it was @ToTTenTranz who scoffed at the thread title here:


and who is active in this thread trying to discredit the Xbox insider. It's so very very interesting.
 
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How absolutely unexpected. I believe it was @ToTTenTranz who scoffed at the thread title here:


and who is active in this thread trying to discredit the Xbox insider. It's so very very interesting.

Theres been a good few posters that “hate on xbox” but then do stuff like this and are just PC fanboys
 
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I have a theory that Microsoft keeps Phil Spencer in charge despite continuously failing as an executive is because Microsoft's and his goal is not to make Xbox succeed in gaming, but rather to disrupt the gaming industry and destroy Sony at any cost. There's no other reasonable explanation for how that dude is allowed to fail over and over and over, any other executive would have been replaced 5 years ago. If you have seen the interviews with former Xbox executives you will know that Microsoft only entered gaming because they didn't want Sony to dominate the living room.
💯 Yes! Bill Gates was pissed Sony didn't want to use their api for PlayStation so they started Xbox instead. Everything they tried failed but they are still there like cockroaches hoping to finally kill Sony, even if they need their customers.

They are running out of ideas but they don't give up 🤡
 

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💯 Yes! Bill Gates was pissed Sony didn't want to use their api for PlayStation so they started Xbox instead. Everything they tried failed but they are still there like cockroaches hoping to finally kill Sony, even if they need their customers.

They are running out of ideas but they don't give up 🤡
Now they are also trying to kill the entire livingroom and move entertainment over to the desktop. See how Youtube is dominated by PCMR propaganda. The whole American media is trying to kill Playstation since the release of Halo in 2001.