Rumor: Sony is changing strategy and no longer announcing games too early. Sucker's Punch New Game being announced this year.

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they need more studios, that's simple, this live service strategy ruined a lot of things, we still don't have a new Naughty Dog game and we're 4 years into this generation, that should already tell you everything, we probably won't see a game coming from them til 2026/2027, the very end of this generation, while last gen we had Uncharted 4, Uncharted Lost Legacy and The Last Of Us Part II
They need to announce every single game that they are making for the PS5. Fuck them and their secrecy and all their canceled games.

I hate this post PS4 PlayStation, what a repulsive company that takes their audience for granted and think they are above everyone.
 

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They have coming, publicly announced:
  • Convallaria ("2023")
  • Lost Soul Aside (ealy 2024)
  • Destiny 2 The Final Shape (June 4, 2024)
  • Until Dawn remake (2024)
  • Concord (2024)
  • Death Stranding 2 (2025)
  • Marathon (2025)
  • Fairgame$ (TBA, pretty likely 2026)
  • Star Wars KOTOR remake (TBA)
And without showing anything they publicly mentioned:
  • Next Team Asobi game, action game with humor bigger than Astros (TBA)
  • Horizon Online (TBA)
  • Next Sucker Punch game (pretty likely GoT2, TBA)
  • Bend's new IP (TBA)
  • Minimum two new single player games from ND (TBA)
  • Minimum two games under development at Firesprite (TBA)
  • Horizon 3 (TBA)
  • New GoW set in a new mythology (TBA)
  • Next Housemarque game (TBA)
  • Next Media Molecule game (TBA)
  • Psysint (TBA, to start development after DS2 release)
we still have no dates for Concord and Until Dawn Remake, hopefully they announce dates for them in a State Of Play in the middle of the year
 
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They need to announce every single game that they are making for the PS5. Fuck them and their secrecy and all their canceled games.

I hate this post PS4 PlayStation, what a repulsive company that takes their audience for granted.
i feel like they're completely lost and don't know what to do, PS4 had a clear strategy that was great AAA singleplayer experiences, Only On PlayStation to sell hardware, now all of a sudden they flipped everything around and it's not about selling consoles anymore, it's about PC, Mobile, Live Service games, i don't like the future they're heading to, it's a future very similar to what happened to Xbox last gen
 

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They have coming, publicly announced:
  • Convallaria ("2023")
  • Lost Soul Aside ("ealy 2024")
  • Destiny 2 The Final Shape (June 4, 2024)
  • Until Dawn remake (2024)
  • Concord (2024)
  • Death Stranding 2 (2025)
  • Marathon (2025)
  • Wolverine (TBA, pretty likely 2026)
  • Fairgame$ (TBA, pretty likely 2026)
  • Star Wars KOTOR remake (TBA)
And without showing anything they publicly mentioned:
  • Next Team Asobi game, action game with humor bigger than Astros (TBA)
  • Horizon Online (TBA)
  • Minimum two new single player games from ND (TBA)
  • Bungie new IP (pretty likely Matter, TBA)
  • Bend's new IP (TBA)
  • Next Sucker Punch game (pretty likely GoT2, TBA)
  • Minimum two games under development at Firesprite (TBA)
  • Next Housemarque game (TBA)
  • Horizon 3 (TBA)
  • New GoW set in a new mythology (TBA)
  • Next Media Molecule game (TBA)
  • Psysint (TBA, to start development after DS2 release)
Oh, Convallaria, Lost Soul Aside, Until Dawn Remake, Concord and Fairgame$ are coming... how reasuring lmao

That lineup of games is so bad It makes me wonder if I wasn't too mean to Phil Spencer.
 
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Yuh PS5 gen gonna be the last between incompetence leadership, directionless vision & lack of focus of increasing PS first party exclusives & pc ports I’m better of migrating to PC & using Steamdeck or Nintendo for Japanese games/indies

If they’re just gonna show 2 first party games in the next showcase those likely being Astro Bot & GOT 2 & 2-3 live service assuming Concord, Horizon online & Fairgames all slated for 2025 that would be disappointing we need to see atleast the next 3 years. I haven’t been more disengage & trusting in the PS brand I’d say it’s worse then PS3 600$ get 2 jobs atleast we new they where committed to PS & there first party lineup of singleplayer & multiplayer games years ahead & back then those games where permanent exclusive so there was little leniency to spare but now there nothing more then a Xbox just at a slower pace. I will always find it hilarious PS would ever put itself in the same position as Xbox then doubling & copying Nintendo who’s continues to prove everyone wrong
 
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CGI trailers?

I can't remember many games from PS being announced with CG trailers. Maybe FF7 Remake.... but not many and their reputation soared during PS4, so I don't get it....

Taking Xbox fanboy criticism to heart is silly...
Fully expect Astro bot gameplay GOT2 CGI trailer & Concord gameplay, Fairgames trailer & Horizok online MH CGI all slated for 2025 + 3rd party & indies
 

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Yuh PS5 gen gonna be the last between incompetence leadership, directionless vision & lack of focus of increasing OS first exclusive & pc ports I’m better of migrating to PC & using Steamdeck or Nintendo for Japanese games/indies

If they’re just gonna show 2 first party games in the next showcase those likely being Astro Bot & GOT 2 & 2-3 live service assuming Concord, Horizon online & Fairgames all slated for 2025 that would be disappointing we need to see atleast the next 3 years. I haven’t been more disengage & trusting in the PS brand I’d say it’s worse then PS3 600$ get 2 jobs atleast we new they where committed to PS & there first party lineup of singleplayer & multiplayer games years ahead & back then those games where permanent exclusive so there was little leniency to spare but now there nothing more then a Xbox just at a slower pace. I will always find it hilarious PS would ever put itself in the same position as Xbox then doubling & copying Nintendo who’s continues to prove everyone wrong
Refusing to announce future games, porting all their games to PC, all while they continue to charge for online multiplayer on consoles and abuse costumers.

We need a Valve console as soon as possible to put PlayStation in their place.
 
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Yuh PS5 gen gonna be the last between incompetence leadership, directionless vision & lack of focus of increasing OS first exclusive & pc ports I’m better of migrating to PC & using Steamdeck or Nintendo for Japanese games/indies

If they’re just gonna show 2 first party games in the next showcase those likely being Astro Bot & GOT 2 & 2-3 live service assuming Concord, Horizon online & Fairgames all slated for 2025 that would be disappointing we need to see atleast the next 3 years. I haven’t been more disengage & trusting in the PS brand I’d say it’s worse then PS3 600$ get 2 jobs atleast we new they where committed to PS & there first party lineup of singleplayer & multiplayer games years ahead & back then those games where permanent exclusive so there was little leniency to spare but now there nothing more then a Xbox just at a slower pace. I will always find it hilarious PS would ever put itself in the same position as Xbox then doubling & copying Nintendo who’s continues to prove everyone wrong
it's gonna get worse, believe me, these PC ports are going to hurt PS6 very badly, specially if Microsoft makes an Xbox portable PC with Steam and everything, it's not gonna be a good luck to have PlayStation games running on an Xbox console
 

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Refusing to announce future games, porting all their games to PC, all while they continue to charge for online multiplayer on consoles and abuse costumers.

We need a Valve console as soon as possible to put PlayStation in their place.
PS5 already struggles with lack of exclusives and by porting games to PC they're making things even worse, it doesn't surprise me that they haven't met their 25 million forecast for this last FY
 

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it's gonna get worse, believe me, these PC ports are going to hurt PS6 very badly, specially if Microsoft makes an Xbox portable PC with Steam and everything, it's not gonna be a good luck to have PlayStation games running on an Xbox console
PS5 already struggles with lack of exclusives and by porting games to PC they're making things even worse, it doesn't surprise me that they haven't met their 25 million forecast for this last FY

Well, at least they paid to have Bloober's Silent Hill 2 as a temporary exclusive... that should help them a lot lmao.
 

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i still don't understand how, in a rapidly growing digital adoption, Sony is incentivizing people to build their digital libraries on Steam, it just gives it a lot of power, having everything on a single store, they should be incentivizing digital adoption on the PlayStation Store, where they actually make 30% cuts on everything third party related
 

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we still have no dates for Concord and Until Dawn Remake, hopefully they announce dates for them in a State Of Play in the middle of the year
I'd bet they'll announce dates for all their remaining 2024 releases in their typical big May/June showcase/SoP.
 

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i still don't understand how, in a rapidly growing digital adoption, Sony is incentivizing people to build their digital libraries on Steam, it just gives it a lot of power, having everything on a single store, they should be incentivizing digital adoption on the PlayStation Store, where they actually make 30% cuts on everything third party related
Despite having a PS5 I got Helldivers 2 on PC because it was slightly cheaper and Sony charges for online multiplyer on PlayStation.

PS5 is only relevant to me at this point because of physical media and GTA6 temporary exclusivity. If PC had physical media I wouldnt have even considered a PS5 this time.
 
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This whole strategy is beyond stupid and it only stops free marketing and momentum.

Im pretty sure they have no games to show. Death stranding 2 was still revealed years before it's realease.

This rumour has always been fan made, Sony never said they are holding back on announcing games till they are ready.


I'll never understand where Sony got this idea that never annoucing games is somehow good. The best thing for the PS5 is to announce and promote as many future games as possible.

I think most were stuck doing love service crap and are running into dev issues. I don't think they all have secret ambitious single player projects ready for 2025.


I cant wait for the day I'll sell my PlayStation and never look back, Sony deserves for their next console to completelly flop. These beancounting bastards will kill the PlayStation brand in record time.

Sony leadership has completed destroyed this brand, they are lucky Phil Spencer is even more incompetent.

Im going Steam/Nintendo next generation
 

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Despite having a PS5 I got Helldivers 2 on PC because it was slightly cheaper and Sony charges for online multiplyer on PlayStation.

PS5 is only relevant to me at this point because of physical media and GTA6 temporary exclusivity. If PC had physical media I wouldnt have even considered a PS5 this time.
same here
 

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This has been the case for 4 years.

Pretty dumb because when you announce games, you have more hype for your console. More games = more hype.

Also it gives alot of people a reason to buy a console when they know more games are coming in the future and being supported more.
Agree, interesting that Jim Ryan & or Sony said PS5 will become the best selling PS console don’t know if they meant surpassing PS4 because ehh because of PC port idk it’s 50/50 I wouldn’t be surprised if PS5 didn’t outsell PS4 zero chance of PS5 outselling PS2. PS can really sell 150 million console like Nintendo PS would just need to stop PC port & bend the knees of gamers like Nintendo/Steam has done & increase first party output…. so maybe…. Like…. License out your ip w trusted partners & you make increase profits pretty simple business common sense more first party games = more money

PS in 2020 had 3/4 first party games, in 2021 2 first party games, in 2022 3 first party games, in 2023 1 first party games, in 2024 1/2 first party games. I’m solely counting PS 1st party studios & in some cases I’d count a 3rd party if it’s from a PS established long running franchise like sack boy.
they need more studios, that's simple, this live service strategy ruined a lot of things, we still don't have a new Naughty Dog game and we're 4 years into this generation, that should already tell you everything, we probably won't see a game coming from them til 2026/2027, the very end of this generation, while last gen we had Uncharted 4, Uncharted Lost Legacy and The Last Of Us Part II
The thing is us as consumers & gamers understand PS been needing more studios since MS acquired Zenimax the acquisition of Square Enix should’ve been made a long time ago maybe we wouldn’t have had a empty 2023 & 2024. PS couldve announce a Parasite EVE remake, Chrono Trigger remake maintainea true to its for similar to Mario RPG remake a Xenogears reboot, a new Neir game & heavily promo that PS is the home for Final Fantasy & Dragon Quest & you’d see a boost in sales in general but a boost in Japan. Oh & maybe get Kindom Hearts exclusively if not the marketing.

Kadokawa/Fromsoft is another no brsiner acquisition not just the studio is heavily associated w PS & birthing souls like but Kadokawa has a ton of manga & anime studios that could bolster PS production produce more & faster content as PS gain scale & more ip.

Hoyoverse mobile, China, Asia in general & presence in live service & mobile + ip

Where 4 years deep & Sony bought a bunch of no name, no ip, no cadence studios. PS acquisition should’ve been 50/50 singleplayer studios/publisher & the other focus on live service/mobile studio now it looks like PS is walking in mud for 2 years
 
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Sony leadership has completed destroyed this brand, they are lucky Phil Spencer is even more incompetent.
PS is lucky Xbox are completely incompetent & are now going through a nasty death spiral as they choose to focus on “Gen Z” instead of making quality exclusive games strictly & permanent exclusive for its console it’s pretty simple business. The blueprint for success is looking at Nintendo & Steam. Never budge nor devalue your platform/storefront & make gamers bend knee to buying your console for th quality exclusive games.

Want to expand? Do the same & look at Nintendo there singleplayer ten pole games will never release on other platform but they will explore live service w mobile Pokémon unite, Mario kart are either exclusive to mobile or release on Nintendo console & mobile. Nintendo expand franchise through cross media & parks methods that don’t devalue or harm the console ever & is the smart way of expanding & incrasing profit by other means that don’t requires diminishing Nintendo consoles.

PS is lucky Nintendo Seitch is massively weaker but I see in the future w AI & the gap getting in general Nintendo console & PS console being similar in power. Power each generation becomes less & less

As someone who’s solely been a PS gamer & owned every PS console since PS2 it’s pretty crazy PS has open my horizon exploring PC gaming more & by the end of the gen I’d likely be fully PC. PS5 will be the last PS console I likely buy & I’ll skip out on PS6 no need to pay $500 on a console + $70 time exclusive first party + $80 times 7 for a online paywall when I can pay $1500 on a PC that will last 20 years, cheaper games deep discount, no online paywall + getting Xbox & PC games that don’t go to PS & Steam exclusive that Valve will never port to PS + technically Nintendo + mods. PC & Nintendo is the combo for gaming sadly PS put themselves in the same position as Xbox just much slower & much delayed the same critics PS fans give Xbox is now the same to a much lesser extent the same critics Xbox gamers & all other gamers like PC, Nintendo & PS gamers can give about PS you really don’t need a PS it’s no longer mandatory where PC & Nintendo can’t be said the same. I always liked console & wanted to see all 3 succeed but 1 of them completely self destructed & the 2nd is copying the 1st one that self destructive it’s clear the negative effect it’s like driving 100mph while there’s a concrete wall yet PS seem to not redirect itself for short term profits instead of looking long term profits, long term brand, long term identity in gaming
 
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PS is lucky Xbox are completely incompetent & are now going through a nasty death spiral as they choose to focus on “Gen Z” instead of making quality exclusive games strictly & permanent exclusive for its console it’s pretty simple business. The blueprint for success is looking at Nintendo & Steam. Never budge nor devalue your platform/storefront & make gamers bend knee to buying your console for th quality exclusive games.

Want to expand? Do the same & look at Nintendo there singleplayer ten pole games will never release on other platform but they will explore live service w mobile Pokémon unite, Mario kart are either exclusive to mobile or release on Nintendo console & mobile. Nintendo expand franchise through cross media & parks methods that don’t devalue or harm the console ever & is the smart way of expanding & incrasing profit by other means that don’t requires diminishing Nintendo consoles.

PS is lucky Nintendo Seitch is massively weaker but I see in the future w AI & the gap getting in general Nintendo console & PS console being similar in power. Power each generation becomes less & less

Nintendo and Mobile have an Iron grip on Gen Z, nobody from Gen z is going to want an Xbox. Xbox is for boomers at this point.

When it comes to gaming people my age prefer Smash Bros or other party games like Mario Kart 8.

Nobody under the age of 30 cares about Halo,Skyrim or Xbox in general.
 

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They need to announce every single game that they are making for the PS5. Fuck them and their secrecy and all their canceled games.

I hate this post PS4 PlayStation, what a repulsive company that takes their audience for granted and think they are above everyone.
Yuh I’m starting to think PS think it can do this PC port a year later thinking it doesn’t compete w Nintendo or PC & is above both of em even thoe you can argue Steam & Nintendo has stronger position in gaming then PS especially now that Nintendo doesn’t has to compete w a PS w exclusive a PS that was mandatory to play there games on there console & Steam benefits having PS games it further makes them a even more dominate platform & storefront in gaming while PS platform & storefront diminishes & gets devalued
 
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