So... you guys still want sony to buy a big publisher and end up 3rd party like xbox?
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Apples and oranges.
Sony absolutely needs to buy some more studios or publisher. Combo of from software/kadokawa + larian. Or square. Who knows who might enter industry adn buy up publishers, amazon, apple.... They ll lose access to those ips. And we re talking about 5-10 billion investment.
Sony cant spend 80 billion like ms.
They re changing their strategy cause Nutella changed his bonuses from depending on GP growth to revenue growth. And needs some justification for spending 80B. They re not seeing growth they expected. Still xbox division s nothing for them. They can afford to put games everywhere. Sony on other hand depends a lot on ps division.
Its all about MUAs for MS and bonuses for management.
Sony absolutely needs to buy some more studios or publisher. Combo of from software/kadokawa + larian. Or square. Who knows who might enter industry adn buy up publishers, amazon, apple.... They ll lose access to those ips. And we re talking about 5-10 billion investment.
Sony cant spend 80 billion like ms.
They re changing their strategy cause Nutella changed his bonuses from depending on GP growth to revenue growth. And needs some justification for spending 80B. They re not seeing growth they expected. Still xbox division s nothing for them. They can afford to put games everywhere. Sony on other hand depends a lot on ps division.
Its all about MUAs for MS and bonuses for management.
Yes, but not going 3rd party because that's move for loser side like xbotz 
. And they should buy Capcom and Square Enix and locked out their games from xbotz .
. And they should buy Capcom and Square Enix and locked out their games from xbotz .Lmao Larian makes 1 blockbuster now everybody wants them. They don't even own the IP of baldur gate. The only IP they own is divinity sin which is a great IP.
Of course everybody wants them, they proved they can make a blockbuster, made one of the best games of all time. Other than Xbox, companies usually want to acquire successful companies, not shitty ones.
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And DOS sold millions of copies as well.
This is a brain dead statement not trying to sound rude but when a competitor (MS) is saying there strategy is to spend Sony out of business simply implying that they want to buy pivotal publisher & continue to buy publishers to make those games exclusive (even if there rumors of them going 3rd party & supporting native PS console who’s to say that cloud & subscription aren’t the future & control of ip means those games don’t show to your “ecosystem” very short minded thinking. Sony now partners w Sqaure Enix for exclusive deals they have a relationship but just like Zenimax & ABK who Sony had made exclusive deals & had a relationship if you don’t owned IP your leaving cracks & allowing competitors to bypass you by using $. Sure MS might release Zenimax & ABK games no but if the future is subscription or cloud those titles don’t show up to Sony essentially still being exclusive Sony should 100% buy multiple publishers & studios to bolster there IP & expertise to create live service games across PS, PC & mobile so that they don’t have to undermine there console by porting singleplayer games to PC because they need to increase revenue & there lack of live service means they need to port singleplayer games.
If Sony don’t buy Square Enix, Capcom & Kadokawa/Fromsoft MS, Saudi Arabia & China will be happily to secure those publishers & IP. What then MS makes an exclusive deal w a Kadokawa/Fromsoft under China control & those games never go to PS. Saudi Arabia buys Capcom or Square & wants to focus on Nintendo & mobile? MS & other big players certainly has the money to do that you should never rely on “relationships” or “ethics” in business
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This is short term thinking & very bad for long term success. If Sony buys Capcom they can grow there presence in FGC by creating fighting games using Sony ip Sony can make Capcom make a smash clone w heavy investment promo using EVO & transform many Capcom ip to PSVR like resident evil, ips like monster hunter, dmc, dino crysis etc can be brought back w VR synergy. Same w Square, Sony & Square can bring many ip to VR make movie films tv shows & anime Xenogesrs Parasite Eve etc can comeback buying both publishers can also bolster PS first party ability to make content & cross promote w each other ei MH x Horizon, Street fighter x Demon Slayer etc those ip can be integrated into PS live service like studios like Haven or any other live service centric PS studio making events or maps or skins using those ip essentially what Fortnite is doing but there not owning the ip. Hypothetically in Fairgames if Sony acquired Capcom or Square Haven studio can make a map in the resident evil universe or a final fantasy map & you see cloud & sephiroth fighting in the background this level of cross promotion using iconic ip is what made Fortnite last so long & what made PS allstars flop because Sony didn’t owned Capcom they had to use the emo Dante. Ownership > Relationship. People play Fortnite & can play as Naruto while shooting Batman or drive cars w Kratos Master Chief & Spider Man. Ip is what made Smash so iconic with all the cross ip & a staple franchise. Sony don’t got ip like that they should definitely bolster there 1st party studio & IP
I think these were always in response of an arms race for gate keeping within an eco system . Knowing what we know now, the context changes. And the answer is as it always was, no publisher amalgamation.
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You realize part of microsoft spending sony out of business is sony spending Themselves into debt trying to compete right? It’ already sort of happening with stuff like ps plus and them having to raise prices to get bigger games on there to compete with gamepass, and purchases like Bungie that haven’t been yielding great returns, etc.
Sony buying a publisher puts them further into a hole, and it gives microsoft even more leverage in buying another bigger publisher. Sony can’t win by trying to compete with microsoft is spending, just like Microsoft can’t compete with sony in just being a console and game maker.
The problem w MS is they know & see there future but they can’t go to with PS & Nintendo being strong in console & with them also not heading MS directions it’s hard for MS/Xbox to influence the gaming industry to head that way. That’s why they bought publishers (4 publishers already acquired) with more seemingly in the way if there leaked documents are any to go by. Think theyll squeeze 2 more publisher or atleast till they get told no by regulators, gamers can’t say no to MS future if MS owns there beloved ip
Eh…. Playstation is already the de facto platform for fighters. They made that happen last gen. The standard hasn’t changed. They don’t “need” a fighting studio per se… they got the genre on lock.
I’ve said it in the past… Sony doesn’t need to buy anyone. They need to continue on the path. They’re actually capable of creating and fostering new ip and studios. I’m not worried. Sony is also the best in the industry at gauging changes in the market. I don’t doubt this anymore.
However… if I had to pick…
Gunfire as an up and coming pick. CDPR and From Software as major studio picks and stay multi platform.
Toho for Japanese media and film (and Godzilla) to expand non gaming media efforts / Sony pictures as well as strengthen their bond to the homeland.
He's a MS fanboy. Anything that suggests Sony should get a new studio/publisher triggers him. It's fine for MS though.
I think Sony spending themselves out of business would be them trying to loss lead a subscription like MS w gamepass. Sony can bolster there subscription w other method like handing free cosmetic or bonus perks for there live service games just like Amazon Primes give Twitch viewers bonus perk that are usually cosmetic for live service games.
So in a time where regulators approved MS acquisition of ABK worth 70 billion totaling 4 publishers acquired by MS in 3 years & them wanting to buy more publishers further pushing consolidation across the gaming industry & players like MS, Saudi Arabia, Tencent & others getting involved who are looking to buy publisher you think it’s a good idea for Sony to just sit by & continue to loose out on franchises heavily associated w PS? If we go by your logic we can live in a world where Zenimax & ABK games don’t show up to a PS ecosystem Capcom, Square Enix & Take 2 franchises etc no longer show up to a PS ecosystem.
Sony isn’t buying publisher to compete MS in spending no one suggested that lol but to suggest it’s bad idea for Sony to consolidate & acquire publisher w strong ip/expertise & rather to just sit by & not secure these 3rd party publisher indefinitely is pretty insane to consider giving what we know from MS documents & other companies interest in acquiring publishers
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What is sony losing out on right now? Zenimax nor Activision is putting out anything to change the tide, the xbox consoles are cooked
So you wouldn’t mind if MS bought Sauare Enix? Would it bother you if Saudi Arabia acquired Capcom & no longer released games on PS & focused on Nintendo & mobile?
I still don’t get why people are relying on Sony current position & not looking at the future also relying on those publisher releasing games on PS due to relationship? Or PS current dominance? Your essentially a frog in a pot boiling not releazing whats going on even thoe it’s right in your face whats currently & about to occur in the future regarding consolidation. I would’ve thought after Zenimax & ABK people wouldn’t rely on precedent, no one would’ve thought of Zenimax being acquired & no one ever thought or brought up ABK as a possible acquisition now all 4 are under PS rival w MS documents & statement showing they want to continue buying publishers in the future
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I’m far less bothered by microsoft acquiring anything else at this point in time
It's very doubtful they will buy anything publisher size anytime soon.
I'm pretty positive.
I also think they will be pushing AI and people will not like that.
All that drought rubbish. is internet waffle. And dudes too deep in the console war crap. I'd say it's mostly youtubers who can't be more creative with their content.So are the loudest.
Oh that's over. Now that Satya and The CFO has stepped in. It means Phil's plans have failed. CFO is trying to recoup and balance the books asap.
Satya as a software guy will do what he knows.Sell software.MS brand logo everywhere.