Sony cuts Live Service titles from 12 down to 6
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Why refer to a thread on resetera that refers to an actual article from videogameschronichle?
www.videogameschronicle.com
Sony confirms it’s delayed half of its 12 planned live service games | VGC
The company wants to “ensure [these games] are enjoyed and liked by gamers for a long time”…
www.videogameschronicle.com
Why refer to a thread on resetera that refers to an actual article from videogameschronichle?
Sony confirms it’s delayed half of its 12 planned live service games | VGC
The company wants to “ensure [these games] are enjoyed and liked by gamers for a long time”…
Thanks for this. It’s nice seeing the actual statements… it was indeed the Bungie review that shook this up. So I guess you all have Bungie to thank for the change in direction?
Also, the claim is the they’ve been pushed back and not canned altogether.
Will be, eventually. This direction is stupid and bombing already.. two heads rolled, one more to go for this piss poor PS direction.
P.s. 6 is until March 2025..other 6 isn't delayed to 2025, it's beyond that..
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Yeah, Jim definitely got fired.
The real question now is, how long will it take for studios to recover from this.
The real question now is, how long will it take for studios to recover from this.
Just watching Gen V, and it’s a Sony show. Wonder if The Boys could be on the map for a game.
Would actually be cool, ultra violent hero satire framework.
Would actually be cool, ultra violent hero satire framework.
So glad to know my vision was vindicated, Jim Ryan was given the boot because his strategy of continuing to acquire unknown developers and flop PC ports were lowering Playstation's margins to oblivion.
Sad the multiplayer games that were likely delayed are the ones that would've did semi decent compared to fairgame$ and concord. (TLOU and Horizon online)
Sad the multiplayer games that were likely delayed are the ones that would've did semi decent compared to fairgame$ and concord. (TLOU and Horizon online)
I'm sure some people will have missed this, but it's important to note that there's a slide that mentions the following:
Considering that FY23 ends in 03/24, we know for sure that first party titles are being delayed (plural). Additionally, we now know that of the 12 Live Service titles, half of them are being reviewed (not cancelled, though the more they delay, the more likely this is).
As I had predicted, this is just the beginning of the Jim Ryan effect on PlayStation. Accuse me of all the doom and gloom you want, but it's becoming more and more clear that he got the boot, and why he got the boot. His decisions literally compromised employee satisfaction, product pipeline, and the bottom line of shareholders (by impacting revenue figures due to lack of games).
Only problem is who comes next.
Considering that FY23 ends in 03/24, we know for sure that first party titles are being delayed (plural). Additionally, we now know that of the 12 Live Service titles, half of them are being reviewed (not cancelled, though the more they delay, the more likely this is).
As I had predicted, this is just the beginning of the Jim Ryan effect on PlayStation. Accuse me of all the doom and gloom you want, but it's becoming more and more clear that he got the boot, and why he got the boot. His decisions literally compromised employee satisfaction, product pipeline, and the bottom line of shareholders (by impacting revenue figures due to lack of games).
Only problem is who comes next.
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Oh yeah, I mathed this wrong. Q2 finishes in September 30, you're right. I'll edit the original post.
This makes it even worse, it means there were multiple titles planed between Oct 1st 23 and March 31st 24 that got delayed.
Giving Bungie so much power
I'm almost sure the original version of Factions was kinda amazing based off Naughty Dog's multiplayer record
Man this thread is bad. They have not canceled 6 games, they are just delayed/postponed
Some people seem to miss the point entirely as to why there was a 12 game target to begin with
They targeted 12 knowing some will get delayed, some will get cancelled and some will fail
They aren't stupid, they know how game development works, that have kind of been doing it for a long time. Having 6 actually ready for 2025 was likely totally expected to begin with
Single player games also get cancelled and delayed internally all the time, a lot more than 6 over the last several years, that doesnt mean they gave up single player games just like it doesnt mean they are giving up on these service games
And there are two simple truths people should ve able to understand:
- SIE makes a significant amount of its revenue through microtransactions
- SIE cant and should not rely soley on third party publishers and developer for this significant amount of revenue from microtransactions, especially with companies like Microsoft consolidating the industry
They essentially need their own service games if they want to continue to be successful
People say "they should just keep making AAA single player games" dont get it. If AAA single player games are your thing you are likely already buying a Playstation regardless, if they want to grow their user base and revenue they need successful multiplayer focused games
We have these threads every few months where people applaud Sony's large revenuer numbers and success while ignoring a very large amount if that comes from microtransactions, the thing this site likes to act are so evil. I hope at least someone can realize the irony
Some people seem to miss the point entirely as to why there was a 12 game target to begin with
They targeted 12 knowing some will get delayed, some will get cancelled and some will fail
They aren't stupid, they know how game development works, that have kind of been doing it for a long time. Having 6 actually ready for 2025 was likely totally expected to begin with
Single player games also get cancelled and delayed internally all the time, a lot more than 6 over the last several years, that doesnt mean they gave up single player games just like it doesnt mean they are giving up on these service games
And there are two simple truths people should ve able to understand:
- SIE makes a significant amount of its revenue through microtransactions
- SIE cant and should not rely soley on third party publishers and developer for this significant amount of revenue from microtransactions, especially with companies like Microsoft consolidating the industry
They essentially need their own service games if they want to continue to be successful
People say "they should just keep making AAA single player games" dont get it. If AAA single player games are your thing you are likely already buying a Playstation regardless, if they want to grow their user base and revenue they need successful multiplayer focused games
We have these threads every few months where people applaud Sony's large revenuer numbers and success while ignoring a very large amount if that comes from microtransactions, the thing this site likes to act are so evil. I hope at least someone can realize the irony
Talk about missing the forest for the trees. Nobody has spoken about playstation betting on live service games in isolation. The problem has always been that they tasked their best studios, whose pedigree is to create AAA single player experiences, to make those games. These games have very different sets of requirements, staffing needs, know how, etc. That's the biggest problem, Sony took an almost either or approach to live service.
Thanks for the common sense. People pointing to this as the reason the approach won't work or, even more laughably, that proof that Jim Ryan was fired
are gasping for validation. You don't fire your most successful CEO for something that was largely expected, and before the alleged negative impacts of their decision-making have come to pass.
This beg the question
How many live service game do you actually care and play
I havent play any
Cos they look shit to me
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The discussion around that game is already poisoned like suicide squad
It’s best to avoid a major disaster early on