Sony have no plan to release any major (established) franchise titles this year (April 2024- March 2025)
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You don't need to waste money on windows. Most Linux distros can run most windows games smoothly nowadays.
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If you have a decent internet connection you can also use geforce now and Shadow PC to play all PC games at max settings 4k. This is also one of the reasons I stopped buying games on my PS5 because remote play looks like trash compared to those two services as I rarely play on a tv.
Because you are spending way too much time, money and effort into bad quality parts, used GPUs or underpowered ones, you deal with way more driver issues, more bugs and yet all you get in return is a crappy substitute of a PS5.
Of course, it makes sense if you want it mostly for pirating, which would be pretty much the only reason to go this route, especially in 3rd world countries like Brazil where money is tight (I grew up in Latin America, I'm not clutching my pearls, just telling the truth).
Like, don't take this as an attack, my only motivation behind my posts is to call out fanboy crap. If you had said PCs are wonderful because they provide a lot more options and can go much higher in performance than consoles, sure.
However, when you start with silly fanboy things like "I can build a PS5 equivalent PC for under 500" (spoiler alert: no, that's not possible), and the way more egregious "windows will be irrelevant because Steam Deck and Steam OS". Come on, at that point you don't even live in reality.
Which makes me question, why am I even wasting my time...a question for which I don't have an answer.
GFN requires a paid sub AND for you to buy the game to stream at 4K. I don't really see the appeal tbh.
Guy talking about piracy as if it's his saviour in these rough times and then mentioning paid streaming services that can't be hacked... I smell something fishy @Sircaw your area of expertise, what's your take?
Damn, turns out wanting to play games at 1080p/60fps makes you a criminal. Funny than both AMD and Nvidia make GPUs that target that type of experience like a RX 7600 or RTX 4060, pretty popular GPU options for PC players.
Who would've guessed console players cared so much about performance and resolution to the point they think they can shit on 1080p/60fps, something that a lot of times they don't even get on their consoles.
Sony fanboys that are PC elitists and Windows fans. I'm out, you guys can do or think whatever you want and in the end I'll be proven correct again anyway.
Who would've guessed console players cared so much about performance and resolution to the point they think they can shit on 1080p/60fps, something that a lot of times they don't even get on their consoles.
Sony fanboys that are PC elitists and Windows fans. I'm out, you guys can do or think whatever you want and in the end I'll be proven correct again anyway.
Subsidized hardware that works at the click of a button (anyone who says Steam Big Picture can do it is delusional, I have tried and while it's workable it's also cumbersome as hell).
Your disingenuous takes and warping of reality makes me think you have an agenda but it's the internet so I understand. The ignorance or purposeful misinformation on your part is evident. Those PC issues are very real still to this day and there are still threads made of ppl having those issues frecuently but I'll let you tell it. As a matter of fact even with the steam deck which should be straight up plug and play ppl have had issues playing games and having to tinker with settings Shit I don't even game on PC (doesn't mean I've never gamed on PC) but work on them daily in my line of work and even dealing with them on a non gaming capacity issues always arise lol
I have no loyalty to any brand so "turning on PlayStation" as if it's some fascist govt or political party I'm "turning" on does not live in my mind nor is it thst deep
I mean I'm making this up lol
Steam Deck - not ready for prime time or gamer families
The Steam Deck is a handheld gaming Linux PC. It's an attempt from Valve to bring their gaming library to the handheld scene, like the Nintendo Switch. About me I’m a father of four gamers and a gamer myself. We have two Nintendo Switches and my kids and I love them. Since my steam library has...
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(the below is a person who has a steam deck and even then the constant tinkering is consistent. You can find dozens of threads about having to tinker with PC but of course the narrative is "no thts not an issue anymore
") Yup just ignorance on my part and on the part of millions more. Constant Tinkering
The Deck isn’t a walled garden like Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft. Most games in my library were not built with the Deck in mind. This means the onus is on you, the player, to configure everything, per game, just right. From controller mappings to graphics, to power profiles. When I want to game I just want to game, not tinker and read Reddit comments or proton db suggestions till I get something that will work.
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Yep this is exactly how i felt when I used it back in the day, granted its a good 4-5 years ago, but I literally found it a pain in the arse.
We all know you voted for Hillary, stop trying to distance yourself from her.Your disingenuous takes and warping of reality makes me think you have agenda but it's the internet so I understand. The ignorance or purposeful misinfirnsryoj on your part is evident. Those PC issues are very real still to this day and there are still threads made of ppl having those issues frecuently but I'll let you tell it. Shit I don't even game on PC (doesn't mean I've never gamed on PC) but work on them daily in my line of work and even dealing with them on a non gaming capacity issues always arise lol
I have no loyalty to any brand so "turning on PlayStation" as if it's some fascist govt or political party I'm "turning" on does not live in my mind nor is it thst deep
No politics my friend on this forumWe all know you voted for Hillary, stop trying to distance yourself from her.
I'm not going to bother answering point by point anymore. My two years experience playing on Linux 99% of the time is worthless because you read an article. Let's just see what happens and who will be right in the end.Your disingenuous takes and warping of reality makes me think you have an agenda but it's the internet so I understand. The ignorance or purposeful misinformation on your part is evident. Those PC issues are very real still to this day and there are still threads made of ppl having those issues frecuently but I'll let you tell it. As a matter of fact even with the steam deck which should be straight up plug and play ppl have had issues playing games and having to tinker with settings Shit I don't even game on PC (doesn't mean I've never gamed on PC) but work on them daily in my line of work and even dealing with them on a non gaming capacity issues always arise lol
I have no loyalty to any brand so "turning on PlayStation" as if it's some fascist govt or political party I'm "turning" on does not live in my mind nor is it thst deep
I mean I'm making this up lol
Steam Deck - not ready for prime time or gamer families
The Steam Deck is a handheld gaming Linux PC. It's an attempt from Valve to bring their gaming library to the handheld scene, like the Nintendo Switch. About me I’m a father of four gamers and a gamer myself. We have two Nintendo Switches and my kids and I love them. Since my steam library has...
(the below is a person who has a steam deck and even then the constant tinkering is consistent. You can find dozens of threads about having to tinker with PC but of course the narrative is "no thts not an issue anymore
Constant Tinkering
The Deck isn’t a walled garden like Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft. Most games in my library were not built with the Deck in mind. This means the onus is on you, the player, to configure everything, per game, just right. From controller mappings to graphics, to power profiles. When I want to game I just want to game, not tinker and read Reddit comments or proton db suggestions till I get something that will work.
What I really don't like is how everyone here started accusing me of being disingenuous or a liar when all I did was share my experience and when the other guy asked for a $600 build I provided it. It's clear that you guys have your mind set on pretending that playing on PC it's this impossible tanks when in reality it's rather easy even on Linux these days (and also improving at an impressive pace), no matter what I say you'll come up with some excuse of way playing on PlayStation is the only option for everyone.
Big picture mode was completely overhauled after the Steam Deck released. If you limit yourself to Steam it is a pretty straightforwards experience, if you want to do more than that it will require more set up but that would be a choice you made.
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No offense, but you are literally a minority of a minority.
The amount of people I know who play on PC irl is not insignificant, but the amount of people I know irl or online who play on PC on a Linux distribution is basically just one: You.
The other thing is, the experience of playing 1080p on a budget monitor (assuming this because you proposed what is a budget PC, no one is buying oleds for a $600 pc) is just vastly worse from nearly all aspects.
If you don't play online (or play a F2P like Fortnite), and want to play on your TV, then the obvious choice is console. Lifetime cost of a ps5 with a low to midrange TV is far, far cheaper even with reduced game price on steam or epic.
PC wins a lot of things (like mods or emulation), but those things matter to a minority of people. The majority of gamers like the couch experience with plug and play execution. It's really not that deep.
Edit: I own a gaming PC btw and have dabbled in Linux for work stuff.
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Funny that you say it's vastly worse but I can change from my 1080p monitor to my 4K screen that is right besides it with my PS5 and it's very comparable. It's not like the PS5 is rendering all demanding games at 4K/60fps. If the game is not demanding there is nothing stopping you from playing on 4K as well. I can connect to a 4K TV an upscale too if I want, I just don't feel any need to do so.
According to Steam statistics about 60% of Steam players still use 1080p displays, 4K displays are at less than 4% barely far bellow 1440p. Clearly many PC players do not see 4K as something that will give them a good return (anyone that actually gets to configure their games unlike console players will understand the massive impact on performance and how 4K/60fps is not something worth chasing). If you want higher resolutions buy a more powerful GPU, there is no magic to it, neither on PC nor on consoles. If you want an OLED monitor or TV you need to buy one, your PS5 didn't come with an OLED screen either.
A lot of the arguments I see here would also imply that back in the day PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 were also vastly worse to PC. PC players had resolutions above HD while console player were dealing with 240i and 480i. It's obvious how biased people are here, all that matters it's whatever the PlayStation is offering at that exact moment anything else is stupid and for losers, if PlayStation changes their tune people will then adapt and contradict themselves if needed.
I never said there is no point to a console (why would I own a PS5 if I believed that?), my only point it's that is completely viable to play on a budget PC. The PS5 itself is not that different from a 2024 budget PC anyway. A budget PC also has a very convenient upgrade path and it's a great starting point for someone not used to playing on PC.
It's funny that the idea of gaming on Linux is so offensive to some people here, they need to tell themselves it is shit to be able to sleep at night hugging their Windows and PS5. The fact that I play on Linux just means I'm ahead of the curve, Steam Deck users also play on Linux. Linux gaming along with VR are the two most exciting things happening when it comes to gaming plataforms these days.
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A significant number of game releases already work with one button within SteamDeck.
The rest of them require 1-2 minutes to activate forced Proton compatibility and select a ready-made control profile from the community.
Next, if necessary, you can choose the performance/battery life balance, but this is determined experimentally, personally I always play in 40fps\40hz mode, and if it's a PS1\2 emulator and the game has a 30fps lock, I switch to the 30fps\60hz profile. Also, if the game is not very new, you can easily lower the TDP to 5-10w.
At the same time, most releases work without any problems out of the box, and manipulating TDP and fps\hz lock is already a feature for advanced users.
And an interesting thing is that SpellForce PlatinumEditon worked better on SD than on a fairly powerful PC (I7-6700, GTX1070, 16GB RAM, M2 SSD). Although the game is a new publisher, it was adapted for Win10. And a similar situation was repeated with other games.
The only exception that I spent 10 hours on was World in Conflict, which is only available on GOG.COM. But it worked after updating a third-party compatibility tool in the form of Lutris, which was released 2 months ago.