Sony have no plan to release any major (established) franchise titles this year (April 2024- March 2025)

[Nhomnhom]

Turing ray tracing was pretty shite, probably just a bit better than AMD.

Better turn that shit off altogether since it is a waste of memory and perfomance.

DLSS is better than Fidelity Vaseline surely, but honestly native 1080p still looks better than that these "tech"

Budget gaming and ray tracing isn't a good combo, even on consoles you usually end up limited to 30fps with few exceptions like Spider-man and Final Fantasy XVI.

Native 1080p is perfectly fine, specially on a 1080p monitor. I would never sacrifice 60fps for 30fps just to get resolutions above 1080p.

Most of the time I can't even tell if RT is on or off when playing, I think it benefits devs while making the game way more than it benefits players at this point

Games that implement RT shadows are the worst offenders to me.

 

[Systemshock2023]

Turing ray tracing was pretty shite, probably just a bit better than AMD.

Better turn that shit off altogether since it is a waste of memory and perfomance.

DLSS is better than Fidelity Vaseline surely, but honestly native 1080p still looks better than that these "tech"

CBAA (cataract based anti aliasing) way better than AMDs solution and you can get it for free, it even increases as years go by. I am in 2x. Takes care of edges and all geometry.

 

[historia]

Ray Tracing probably reserved for PS6.

Ray Tracing is beneficial once it is fully baked in to the pipeline meaning devs does not have work with baked in lighting. It would be combined with global illlumation

As long as you support potato sacks it won't mean shit.

God I hope green rats die sooner before they can corrupt the pipeline with that stupid handheld and shitty hardware.

 

[anonpuffs]

Suddenly 25 million was unrealistic but last year when a few of us said 25 million wasn't happening... People on this site called us delusional. "PS5 is selling faster than any other PlayStation ever"

Truth be told if they manage to hit 21 million they will be lucky

I think they could have hit 25m if they had discounted to $399 instead of trying to force $499 by doing spiderman bundles.

 

[anonpuffs]

Also @Nhomnhom there's no point in building a pc comparable to a ps5. There's no reason to spend $500-800 just to get a 1080p60 rig. If you want a PC I think the minimum you want is an RX 6800-class card which would be like a 4060Ti 16gb which is way overpriced, the next nvidia card up that has 16gb vram is the 4070 Ti Super which costs $800... at that point just get an AM5 system with a 7700x or 7800x3d. Then you'll have a great 1440p144hz+ experience, or ultrawide@120hz

 

[Danja]

I think they could have hit 25m if they had discounted to $399 instead of trying to force $499 by doing spiderman bundles.

Xmas sales alone could never make up for the deficit that started last spring into summer. They tried with many price reductions all throughout year. But $399 would have definitely gotten them over 10+ million by end of last year.

They also aren't giving PS4 owners a reason to upgrade. Initially Jim's plan was to cut off all first party support but Covid put a wrench into that plan...

Lack of driving software will be the problem going forward. PS5 is expensive but people will still buy console if the software is there.

 

[historia]

Also @Nhomnhom there's no point in building a pc comparable to a ps5. There's no reason to spend $500-800 just to get a 1080p60 rig. If you want a PC I think the minimum you want is an RX 6800-class card which would be like a 4060Ti 16gb which is way overpriced, the next nvidia card up that has 16gb vram is the 4070 Ti Super which costs $800... at that point just get an AM5 system with a 7700x or 7800x3d. Then you'll have a great 1440p144hz+ experience, or ultrawide@120hz

Eh no point of building AM5, that shit is too expensive anyway, unless you playing DCS needing to upgrade CPU every year . It is more expensive for everything.

Get an AM4 board, throw in 5800X3D or 5600X3D pair of 8GB 3200. For GPU buy 6800 12GB or 6900 16GB. Rastirization only, no upscales bullshit. Invest on a good power supply and air cooling system.

That would cost you somewhere around 1000 US Dollars maybe?

 

[Nhomnhom]

Also @Nhomnhom there's no point in building a pc comparable to a ps5. There's no reason to spend $500-800 just to get a 1080p60 rig. If you want a PC I think the minimum you want is an RX 6800-class card which would be like a 4060Ti 16gb which is way overpriced, the next nvidia card up that has 16gb vram is the 4070 Ti Super which costs $800... at that point just get an AM5 system with a 7700x or 7800x3d. Then you'll have a great 1440p144hz+ experience, or ultrawide@120hz

Why is there no point? I play my games at 1080p 60fps what is the problem you have with it? It's a pretty commom build here in Brazil.

I could buy a new monitor with higher resolution and the have to upgrade my gpu but I can also not do any of that and just play my games fine at 1080p.

I played hundreds of hours of Baldur's Gate 3 like this, felt completely fine to me, play many PS5 games on my TV that are not native 4K as well. I was just playing Ace Combat 7 on PS5 and it's 1080p/60fps didn't bother me at all. People are also fine playing their 720p and 800p games on Switch and Steam Deck.

 

[historia]

Xmas sales alone could never make up for the deficit that started last spring into summer. They tried with many price reductions all throughout year. But $399 would have definitely gotten them over 10+ million by end of last year.

They also aren't giving PS4 owners a reason to upgrade. Initially Jim's plan was to cut off all first party support but Covid put a wrench into that plan...

Lack of driving software will be the problem going forward. PS5 is expensive but people will still buy console if the software is there.

They are two millions ahead of PS4....

 

[anonpuffs]

Why is there no point? I play my games at 1080p 60fps what is the problem you have with it? It's a pretty commom build here in Brazil.

I could buy a new monitor with higher resolution and the have to upgrade my gpu but I can also not do any of that and just play my games fine at 1080p.

I played hundreds of hours of Baldur's Gate 3 like this, felt completely fine to me. I can also play my PS5 games on my 4K TV and they are also fine.

Because 1080p is for last gen shit

 

[Nhomnhom]

Because 1080p is for last gen shit

I don't care. Looks fine to me, there is nothing special about 4K. 2D screens are not VR devices where you really feel the need of higher resolution with proper AA solutions it's really hard to tell.

I sometimes connect my PS5 to my 1080p monitor for easy of use and it doesn't bother me at all, PS5 applies a nice down sampling that to me is very visually pleasing.

 

[Danja]

They are two millions ahead of PS4....

No they aren't? PS4 is at 57 million launch aligned compared to PS5 (54 million). They actually lost ground to PS4 over the holiday by 1.5M.

 

[anonpuffs]

I don't care. Looks fine to me, there is nothing special about 4K.

Then why bother with better graphics in games, just go play ps2 games

 

[Nhomnhom]

Then why bother with better graphics in games, just go play ps2 games

You seems to have a very ignorant view of what makes a games graphics look good. TLoU 2 was 1440p without any upscalling on PS4 and was possibly the best looking game of that gen and still is one of the best looking games around, plenty of other games were native 4K or upscalled 4K and didn't look nearly as good.

There are PS5 games that render at sub 1080p resolutions. Alan Wake 2 apparently has 847p internal render resolution on performance mode and 1270p at quality mode at 30fps and everyone was praising it for it visuals.

1080p with good AA is going to look fine even on a 4K screen at normal viewing distances.

The difference between 30fps and 60fps is drastically more noticeable than 1080p to 4K. To me it's not even comparable.

 

[historia]

Then why bother with better graphics in games, just go play ps2 games

Resolution does not equate graphics though.

1080p on a 24 inches monitor is mostly fine. Even on 32 inches TV still fine. anything above 75 ppi is fine at 1-2 meters

 

[Nhomnhom]

Resolution does not equate graphics though.

1080p on a 24 inches monitor is mostly fine. Even on 32 inches TV still fine. anything above 75 ppi is fine at 1-2 meters

My monitor is 24" 1080p never felt the need to upgrade and just got another one from work that I'm going to pick up next week.

If I ever upgrade my monitor any time soon it would be for that curved Dell AW3225QF but the price here in Brazil if offensive. It's drastically cheaper to just get a 42" inches OLED screen instead.

Back in the day I despised the look of PS2 games because of low resolution from TVs of that time while I was used to CRT monitors with high refresh rate and high resolutions. I also hated 720p on PS3 and 360 and all the awful aliasing. When we got to 1080p I was completely satisfied.

 

[anonpuffs]

Lol you're so much less immersed with a 24" monitor at 1m than a 32-34"+ monitor at 1m. Your fov is tiny comparatively. Ppi is definitely not the whole story as higher res includes higher amounts of details in everything. There's no way around it: lower res means lower visual fidelity and lower amount of visual information carried per pixel. I can't believe this is even a talking point in 2024, this is like people telling others they couldn't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. What a joke

 

[historia]

Lol you're so much less immersed with a 24" monitor at 1m than a 32-34"+ monitor at 1m. Your fov is tiny comparatively. Ppi is definitely not the whole story as higher res includes higher amounts of details in everything. There's no way around it: lower res means lower visual fidelity and lower amount of visual information carried per pixel. I can't believe this is even a talking point in 2024, this is like people telling others they couldn't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. What a joke

Wht don't you think at above above 90 ppi at 1m the effect got diminish return?

Pixel display color, it doesn't not contain any information beside range of color it display. The higher the density, the less they stand out. Native eesolution at a basic does not equate graphics. You must be mistaken with alising...

Quality of visual based on visual fidelity, resolution and panels. The higher you go the more diminish return it get.

 

[historia]

Also if anyone building a setup just get a 21:9 monitor instead of 16:9 or 16:10. The amount of infomation display is amazing and some PC games just play better with higher FOV. You can have two tabs of web browser and AutoCAD in parallels as well.

Hell this aspect ratio even work great on phone. I just bought a Xperia 5 V for ways lower than market price because Au is discarding their inventory for new one, still pretty expensive thoufh. The 21:9 display just amazing to scrolling through, look better than my wife iphone too.

 

[Systemshock2023]

Wise choice not falling into that 4k trap. Just super sample from the 1080p display. Good old open sparse grid supersampling if available. That thing sharp.

21:9 is immersive AF, but lots of games specially old don't support it out of the box. Support got better down the line thankfully.

Although you can get the 21:9 effect on a 16:9 display with a custom 2:35:1 resolution. Remember playing vanishing of Ethan Carter and Witcher 3 like that for a while. Looks great on TVs 42 and up.