Sony is preparing for a new PSP that will run PS4 games

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I didn't know that Steamdeck sales were so low, damn.
Looking better than Xbox in 2024 already. :ROFLMAO:

The Steam Deck as it is right now it not meant to be anything but a niche product, Valve is looking at the long term advantages of refining SteamOs.
 

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I would definitely pick up to complete the tv play. But this would be great for more brother who loves handheld play and tv is hogged by GF
 

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If they can pull this off and have the PS5 down sampling be great, it will be massive. They just need to get the price right. Current Sony needs to understand not everything needs a premium price.

They need to also make it a PS+ machine everything can be streamed
 

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I am a big advocate of the PSP and Vita.
Shame all the little problems/odd design choices added up, and people took both handhelds to extreme criticism....
 

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Weird how people are excited for this but seen to forget the failures that were the PsP and Ps Vita do we really want another waste of money being put out there?
The thing with Sony handhelds is that even If they fail, we will still have an amazing tech for homebrew, for another decade or so.
Look up PSVita homebrew. Recently they released a full port of Cuphead, and they are releasing stuff like PS2, DS and gamecube emulators.
 

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I didn't know that Steamdeck sales were so low, damn.
Honestly, if it crosses 5 million this year, which, you know, it should given the rate shown above, then it will be by far the most successful new console entrant of the last twenty years.
 
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Sounds about dumb enough to be something Sony does.

Get people to buy a portable like Portal. And then release another portable that plays games from 10 years ago while the competition (Steamdeck) is playing PS5 games...

If it only plays PS4 games then its another skip for me

If it plays PS5 games, then day 1.

People also need to stop comparing it to Vita. Look at the difference between PSP and Vita in sales.
With 2 shoulder buttons, no sd card and no games, it was too hard to give games to while supporting PS3/4.
Im guessing this will share the PS4/PS5 library.
 
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Sounds about dumb enough to be something Sony does.

Get people to buy a portable like Portal. And then release another portable that plays games from 10 years ago while the competition (Steamdeck) is playing PS5 games...

If it only plays PS4 games then its another skip for me
You don't understand it fully.

Playing most ps4 games would be a "safe boundary"

The ps4 has an insane amount of AAA games franchises, to basically everything released up until last year or so.

& its mostly taking about Power consumption and performance expectations, so a Ps5 game could be dropped down in some aspects to make it playable!

But obviously it would be at a smaller scale they wouldn't force every developer to do it. (For ps5 games)

I'd personally love this haha
 
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Sounds about dumb enough to be something Sony does.

Get people to buy a portable like Portal. And then release another portable that plays games from 10 years ago while the competition (Steamdeck) is playing PS5 games...

If it only plays PS4 games then its another skip for me

If it plays PS5 games, then day 1.

People also need to stop comparing it to Vita. Look at the difference between PSP and Vita in sales.
With 2 shoulder buttons, no sd card and no games, it was too hard to give games to while supporting PS3/4.
Im guessing this will share the PS4/PS5 library.
The deck ain't playng no demanding PS5 games with any quality, even Horizon FW, a crossgen game, looks like shit on it.
 
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The deck ain't playng no demanding PS5 games with any quality, even Horizon FW, a crossgen game, looks like shit on it.
Yes, it is obvious.

In 2026, SteamDeck2 and similar devices will be released, and then all Sony games will be used to promote them, including those that are currently not working well on SD1.

Because everything ported by Sony to torrent automatically ends up on handhelds.
 

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Yes, it is obvious.

In 2026, SteamDeck2 and similar devices will be released, and then all Sony games will be used to promote them, including those that are currently not working well on SD1.

Because everything ported by Sony to torrent automatically ends up on handhelds.
But that is another problem, the current Deck doesn't really run games that much better than the PS4 to the point that it would make much of a difference. If Sony is ok with 10m~20m extra PlayStation out there I think what is rumored here is their best bet and if anything it's taking them too long to try it.

The new PSP begin able to run PS4 games doesn't mean it won't be allowed to have game ported directly to it if a dev chosed, it just means that PlayStation themselves won't have to bother making new games dedicated just for it. It's the perfect balance for Sony, without being something that would drag the PS5 down like the Series S did to the Series X.

This new PSP would likely be able to stream PS5 games at some point as well to help it when it comes to the few game that it might not be able to run properly.
 
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But that is another problem, the current Deck doesn't really run games that much better than the PS4 to the point that it would make much of a difference. If Sony is ok with 10m~20m extra PlayStation out there I think what is rumored here is their best bet and if anything it's taking them too long to try it.

The new PSP begin able to run PS4 games doesn't mean it won't be allowed to have game ported directly to it if a dev chosed, it just means that PlayStation themselves won't have to bother making new games dedicated just for it. It's the perfect balance for Sony, without being something that would drag the PS5 down like the Series S did to the Series X.

This new PSP would likely be able to stream PS5 games at some point as well to help it when it comes to the few game that it might not be able to run properly.
The problem is that SteamDeck1 runs PS4 games better and more stable than PS4, including such hits (in my personal opinion) as The Witcher 3 (no update, it's terrible because CDPR just made a compilation of mods), AC Origins, Valkyrie Chronicles 4, and many more. In most cases, if you roughly set the console preset, you can achieve stable 40fps (although not always)!

Thanks to the 40Hz screen, everything works perfectly and comfortably at 40fps (personally, I choose this format even if the game allows 60fps, because the difference is not felt after a couple of hours, and it increases battery life).

Also, the SD1 can even run some PS5 games in decent quality, such as Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart and Returnal at 30fps.

And now imagine that SteamDeck 2 will be much more productive, and other Sony games will be released on it... There's no way a "portable PS4" can compete with it, especially considering that SD2 will offer the opportunity to get Sony games "for free".

PS: Also in my opinion, the SD2 hardware will allow the NS1 and PS3 emulator to work well, and this will also be its significant advantage, Valve will do nothing to prevent this, it's beneficial for them, and they will not be legally involved.
 

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The really huge thing here is if your back catalog and PS4 games on PS+ carried over.

Imagine all those games on the go.

Wish they'd put the LBP3 servers back up though...my son would be delighted with that combination.
Unfortunately, Sony doesn't care about old hits.

PS2\3 classics, including releases like GTA VC and SA (PS2 versions were sold on PS4, but Sony did nothing to convince T2\Rockstar to keep them), still look good and may interest new buyers, but Sony is not interested.

They'd rather make a PC port and have another flop than work on content for PS5.

At the same time, SteamDeck is a great place to play PS1\2\PSP games, and SD2 will surely add PS3 to this lineup.
 
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Valve should stick to clipping the ticket. PlayStation in a non-holiday month sells what Steam Deck does in a year
The steam deck is fantastic. We got one last month and it's really nice to be able to play there. We travelled and took it with us, streets of rage 4 and coromom ran perfectly, as well as a few other games.
 

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The problem is that SteamDeck1 runs PS4 games better and more stable than PS4, including such hits (in my personal opinion) as The Witcher 3 (no update, it's terrible because CDPR just made a compilation of mods), AC Origins, Valkyrie Chronicles 4, and many more. In most cases, if you roughly set the console preset, you can achieve stable 40fps (although not always)!

Thanks to the 40Hz screen, everything works perfectly and comfortably at 40fps (personally, I choose this format even if the game allows 60fps, because the difference is not felt after a couple of hours, and it increases battery life).

Also, the SD1 can even run some PS5 games in decent quality, such as Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart and Returnal at 30fps.

And now imagine that SteamDeck 2 will be much more productive, and other Sony games will be released on it... There's no way a "portable PS4" can compete with it, especially considering that SD2 will offer the opportunity to get Sony games "for free".

PS: Also in my opinion, the SD2 hardware will allow the NS1 and PS3 emulator to work well, and this will also be its significant advantage, Valve will do nothing to prevent this, it's beneficial for them, and they will not be legally involved.
Nobody cares, look at the Switch and how many people still play on the PS4.

People pirating games on emulators are not the type of audience Sony would want to capture.

This new device could do half as well as the Vita did and that would still be far more units sold than what the first Steam Deck will have managed. You seem too attached to the wrong details, this is for the PlayStation and general audience not for the portable PC niche.

The top dog is the Switch not the Steam Deck and its not even close. Power is not that important even Valve showed that when they made the OLED Deck.
 
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Nobody cares, look at the Switch and how many people still play on the PS4.

People pirating games on emulators are not the type of audience Sony would want to capture.

This new device could do half as well as the Vita did and that would still be far more units sold than what the first Steam Deck will have managed. You seem too attached to the wrong details, this is for the PlayStation and general audience not for the portable PC niche.

The top dog is the Switch not the Steam Deck and its not even close. Power is not that important even Valve showed that when they made the OLED Deck.
The PSP 3.0 CAN sell well with a lineup of exclusive games and the ability to run games from the PS5.

But Sony killed its exclusive games, and moved them to its competitor in the form of PC\Steam, and a competitor of the potential PSP 3, in the form of SteamDeck and its analogs.

Sony can't support the PS5 properly now because of its stupidity and shortsightedness, so the likelihood of a successful PSP 3.0 is very low.