Sony say inclusion of their first party onto PS+ has had a big (negative) effect on traditional sales

Vertigo

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Sony launched a competing service but they’re not directly copying gamepass. Sony’s business model isn’t destructive to sales like day one gamespass is. Extra is just the bargain bin; games that exhausted their retail run or lack thereof

Gamepass been slacking with notable day one releases since Starfield and before then since… what… Halo? Now they NEED to leverage ABK for all it’s worth.

Then again… I think we owe the gamepass disaster for Microsoft being forced into a position to go third party. This is the better result since now at least these studios have a chance to actually sell a game and actually survive.
 

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This was the same Sony that thought it was a good idea to buy bungie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll never understand why they didn't buy a mobile developer with live service experience and pivot more there. Mobile is infinitely more profitable than PC. Sony even makes Phones it would of been great synergy.

Because they were doing it up until very recently?

PC port destroyed Xbox consoles yet Sony copied it anyway.

Modern Sony is speedrunning the destruction of the company. Unlike Microsoft they cannot afford to that this hit
 

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I'll never understand why they didn't buy a mobile developer with live service experience and pivot more there. Mobile is infinitely more profitable than PC. Sony even makes Phones it would of been great synergy.



Modern Sony is speedrunning the destruction of the company. Unlike Microsoft they cannot afford to that this hit
PlayStation has one life left, Xbox was able to try again and again because of MS deep pockets and willingness to accumulate major losses.

These Sony accountants that are in charge will lose their minds at the first signs of lack of growth or struggle (they are already sort of acting like that despite PlayStation being more profitable than ever).
 

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Horizon was put when they introduced extra and premium. To make people jump or sub at all. Along with returnal etc.

Maybe they learned the lesson cinsidering ragnarok, gt7 re not on plus. Maybe not.
We saw a leaked document where they analized diferent cases and made different estimations and projections of the impact of including a game in PS+, analizing different cases and being the HFW experiment.

It was made just after including HFW there, but made a projection and thought it highly boosted the userbase of the game (good for selling the DLC they were releasing soon after that) but at the cost of obviously almost flatlining the tail/year 2 little sales.

In other examples where they included the games to PS+ later the effect on sales got highly reduced. So as we saw in the games released after it, they didn't include them on PS+ that quickly after launch, but instead waited more.
 
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I'll never understand why they didn't buy a mobile developer with live service experience and pivot more there.
In our dimension they already did it. It's called Savage and they rebranded it to Neon Koi.

Modern Sony is speedrunning the destruction of the company.
Sure, they break many (positive) records being more successful than ever in most areas, proving that this is true.

This was the same Sony that thought it was a good idea to buy bungie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes, being a company they love to get money, and also want to expand to GaaS, multiplatform and MP. So they acquired Bungie, one of the most successful, sales record breaking teams in these areas, to almost double their manpower since acquisition until now, generate a lot of money from them in multiple platforms with GaaS/MP and also support/guide their other teams doing that.

Destiny 2 continues making a lot of money, the Marathon teaser was very succesful and also are GT7, MLB and Helldivers 2. So yes, so far was a great idea.
 
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Put Sushi Yoshitta into CEO position. Man lives the games, not like fake suit Spencer letting his butler rack up the game time.
 

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Put Sushi Yoshitta into CEO position. Man lives the games, not like fake suit Spencer letting his butler rack up the game time.

The same man that is responsible for Sony not buying FromSoft and almost cancelling Demon Souls
 
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The same man that is responsible for Sony not buying FromSoft and almost cancelling Denon Souls
He at least admitted his error. It's a big one, sure, but he knows that.

Let's he who of current leadership will admit being wrong regarding PC ports and focus on GaaS.
 

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He at least admitted his error. It's a big one, sure, but he knows that.

Let's he who of current leadership will admit being wrong regarding PC ports and focus on GaaS.

His better off being in charge of indie games, it seems to be his passion.
 
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His better off being in charge of indie games, it seems to be his passion.

Oh I agree with you. He seems to have mostly a good intuition about that. Nevertheless he or someone with his passion should be in charge.
 

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The same man that is responsible for Sony not buying FromSoft and almost cancelling Demon Souls
yes, one mistake in 15 years, you can't forget about that, so mature.

but whole clan of Ceos and SH right now killing PS is okey with you :ROFLMAO:
 
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yes, one mistake in 15 years, you can't forget about that, so mature.

but whole clan of Ceos and SH right now killing PS is okey with you :ROFLMAO:

We could of had Elden Ring,Sekiro and Dark souls as exclusives.

Idk about you but that would of been huge for thr brand
 

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how do you know those games would have been created under Sony? do you checked millions of alternative worlds where it existed?

Under Sony We had Bloodborne which is arguably one of the greatest games of all time, if anything having access to Sony Tech would have made dark souls,Sekiro and Elden Ring even better.
 

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Under Sony We had Bloodborne which is arguably one of the greatest games of all time, if anything having access to Sony Tech would have made dark souls,Sekiro and Elden Ring even better.

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