Starfield | Review & Discussion Thread

[ethomaz]

Why does having or not having ambient occlusion matter? The game is not gorgeous by any stretch of the imagination, it just isn't. The lighting is not great, it's decent enough. Textures are great in some places, not all - New atlantis comes to mind as a place where some sections look great, while others look Fallout 4 levels of bad. And no, I'm not comparing its colours to HFW, I'm comparing graphical quality. HFW has much better lod and above all, is much more consistent.

It is inconsistent.

The opening few hours are good (not jaw dropping... seems like they put more effort here) but after that the quality drops a lot.
And some places remember PS360 graphics level.

 

[Airbus]

Think you can put this into starfield review thread man too many starfield thread recently been avoiding starfield thread like a plague but cant help if new one keep coming up

 

[Darth Vader]

This statement shows your ignorance actually. Ambient occlusion is one of the most important things in lighting. It's not something that games can do without.

Hello, VFX Veteran. Yes, I know it's you, and we both discussed before that just because a technology is present it doesn't mean something looks good.

For example, here is RE4 without AO on EVERYTHING like I mentioned.. The wooden planks need to cast shadow on the wall and it doesn't. I can find this all over HFW as well (we all know HFW doesn't have a good lighting model).

Besides the point, I did not talk about RE4

And here is Starfield using AO on every single object.

Inside your ship, which is a very small linear section where most objects are baked into the scene. Amazing. And there's objects in the scene whereby either AO is missing, or it's just casting a shadow in the wrong direction. Impressive how such a respectful veteran like you missed this.

Here, 14:20, what impressive light looks like in an open world game that is consistent visually.

 

[Sircaw]

This is what I'm saying. I'm enjoying the game so far. They used a lot of Expanse designs in the game from what I can tell. Also, the quests are what take you across the galaxy. I would have never hyped the game up to be a free-roaming scifi like Bethsoft did because it's really just an open world RPG that isn't going to be entertaining unless you follow and go specifically where the quests take you.

I just can't get over these videos of the graphcis because what I'm playing (MAX settings) it's a gorgeous game. They have ambient occlusion on everything -- and I mean EVERYTHING! Something most games just don't have

I am sure there are some nice sections, Neon in my eyes looks particularly lovely but I really don't see a lot of things in videos that make me think god damn that's a stunner.

And is that you V, welcome back lol

 

[BlueLyria]

Nah there was a peak on the first few days of starfield early access, 90% or so of these requests are refunds but it won't all be for starfield

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p.s. no big wave of refunds after Baldur's Gate 3 launched

I was quite curious about that as well:

Here's the release slate for June 2023 :

Spoiler

June 2023 video game release schedule​

• Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection (PC, Switch) - June 1
• Killer Frequency (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 1
• Street Fighter 6 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S) - June 2
• Super Mega Baseball 4 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 2
• We Love Katamari Reroll + Royal Reverie (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 2
• Diablo 4 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - June 6
• Loop8: Summer of Gods (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 6
• MotoGP (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 8
• Harmony: The Fall of Reverie (PC, Switch) - June 8
• Greyhill Incident (PC, PS5, PS4) - June 9
• Heist Kitty: Multiplayer Cat Simulator Game (PC) - June 14
• Layers of Fear (PC, PS5, Xbox Series X|S) - June 15
• Fall of Porcupine (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 15
• Park Beyond (PC, PS5, Xbox Series X|S) - June 16
• F1 2023 (PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 16
• Crash Team Rumble (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 20
• Aliens: Dark Descent (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - June 20
• Trepang 2 (PC) - June 21
• Final Fantasy XVI (PS5) - June 22
• Sonic Origins Plus (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 23
• Revival: Recolonization - Steam Early Access (PC) - June 28
• Noob – The Factionless (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 29
• AEW: Fight Forever (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 29
• Master Detective Archives: Rain Code (Switch) - June 30
• Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 30
• Inner Ashes (PC, PS5, PS4, Switch) - June 30
• Crime O'Clock (PC, Switch) - June 30

I have no idea which one of these games was broken enough on pc to get a big refund wave

and here's july as that also had a big bump :

Spoiler

• Synapse (PlayStation VR2) - July 4
• Gylt (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - July 6
• Scarf (PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 7
• The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie (PC, PS4, PS5, Switch) - July 7
• The Valiant (PS5, Xbox Series X|S) - July 11
• Oxenfree 2: Lost Signals (PC, PS4, PS5, Switch) - July 12
• Atelier Marie Remake: The Alchemist of Salburg (PC, Switch, PS5, PS4) - July 13
• Touhou: New World (PC, Switch) - July 13
• Ed-0: Zombie Uprising (PC, PS5, Xbox Series X|S) - July 13
• Exoprimal (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 14
• Earth Defender - Steam Early Access (PC) - July 14
• Jagged Alliance 3 (PC) - July 14
• Coreborn: Nations of the Ultracore (PC) - July 18
• Lisa: Definitive Edition (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 18
• Cross Tails (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 20
• Nobunaga's Ambition: Awakening (PC, PS4, Switch) - July 20
• Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes - Definitive Edition (PC, Switch, PS4) - July 20
• Pikmin 4 (Switch) - July 21
• Crymachina (Switch, PS5, PS4) - July 27
• Koa and the Five Pirates of Mara (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 27
• Double Dragon Gaiden: Rise of the Dragons (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 27
• Rightfully, Beary Arms (PC) - July 27
• The Expanse: A Telltale Series Episode 1 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 27
• Disney Illusion Island (Switch) - July 28
• F1 Manager 23 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 31
• Rise of the Triad: Ludicrous Edition (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - July 31
  
  not on the main list but also released were
  
  -Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart
  -Remnant 2

At least July I can see Exoprimal, Remnant 2 and Ratchet and Clank being refunded.

 

[Sircaw]

Imagine, ending up in prison with real inmates having to explain what crime you had to do to get there

Great movie if you have not seen it btw.

 

[Darth Vader]

Think you can put this into starfield review thread man too many starfield thread recently been avoiding starfield thread like a plague but cant help if new one keep coming up

Agreed.

 

[Sircaw]

I was quite curious about that as well:

Here's the release slate for June 2023 :

Spoiler

June 2023 video game release schedule​

• Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection (PC, Switch) - June 1
• Killer Frequency (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 1
• Street Fighter 6 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S) - June 2
• Super Mega Baseball 4 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 2
• We Love Katamari Reroll + Royal Reverie (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 2
• Diablo 4 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - June 6
• Loop8: Summer of Gods (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 6
• MotoGP (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 8
• Harmony: The Fall of Reverie (PC, Switch) - June 8
• Greyhill Incident (PC, PS5, PS4) - June 9
• Heist Kitty: Multiplayer Cat Simulator Game (PC) - June 14
• Layers of Fear (PC, PS5, Xbox Series X|S) - June 15
• Fall of Porcupine (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 15
• Park Beyond (PC, PS5, Xbox Series X|S) - June 16
• F1 2023 (PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 16
• Crash Team Rumble (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 20
• Aliens: Dark Descent (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - June 20
• Trepang 2 (PC) - June 21
• Final Fantasy XVI (PS5) - June 22
• Sonic Origins Plus (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 23
• Revival: Recolonization - Steam Early Access (PC) - June 28
• Noob – The Factionless (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 29
• AEW: Fight Forever (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 29
• Master Detective Archives: Rain Code (Switch) - June 30
• Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - June 30
• Inner Ashes (PC, PS5, PS4, Switch) - June 30
• Crime O'Clock (PC, Switch) - June 30

I have no idea which one of these games was broken enough on pc to get a big refund wave

and here's july as that also had a big bump :

Spoiler

• Synapse (PlayStation VR2) - July 4
• Gylt (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - July 6
• Scarf (PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 7
• The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie (PC, PS4, PS5, Switch) - July 7
• The Valiant (PS5, Xbox Series X|S) - July 11
• Oxenfree 2: Lost Signals (PC, PS4, PS5, Switch) - July 12
• Atelier Marie Remake: The Alchemist of Salburg (PC, Switch, PS5, PS4) - July 13
• Touhou: New World (PC, Switch) - July 13
• Ed-0: Zombie Uprising (PC, PS5, Xbox Series X|S) - July 13
• Exoprimal (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 14
• Earth Defender - Steam Early Access (PC) - July 14
• Jagged Alliance 3 (PC) - July 14
• Coreborn: Nations of the Ultracore (PC) - July 18
• Lisa: Definitive Edition (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 18
• Cross Tails (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 20
• Nobunaga's Ambition: Awakening (PC, PS4, Switch) - July 20
• Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes - Definitive Edition (PC, Switch, PS4) - July 20
• Pikmin 4 (Switch) - July 21
• Crymachina (Switch, PS5, PS4) - July 27
• Koa and the Five Pirates of Mara (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 27
• Double Dragon Gaiden: Rise of the Dragons (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 27
• Rightfully, Beary Arms (PC) - July 27
• The Expanse: A Telltale Series Episode 1 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 27
• Disney Illusion Island (Switch) - July 28
• F1 Manager 23 (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One) - July 31
• Rise of the Triad: Ludicrous Edition (PC, PS5, PS4, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, Switch) - July 31
  
  not on the main list but also released were
  
  -Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart
  -Remnant 2

At least July I can see Exoprimal, Remnant 2 and Ratchet and Clank being refunded.

i thought Remnant 2 was pretty good and well received by a large section of the public

 

[KiryuRealty]

i thought Remnant 2 was pretty good and well received by a large section of the public

Are you new to the internet? Every game is the absolute worst EVER, and EVERYONE hates EVERYTHING.

 

[Evilms]

eurogamer portugal 3/5

https://www.eurogamer.pt/starfield-review-analise-promessas-nao-cumpridas-xbox-series-x-pc

not yet added to metacritic

 

[KiryuRealty]

Didn't the poor bastard already suffer enough by being required to play Starfield in the first place?

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Hello, VFX Veteran. Yes, I know it's you, and we both discussed before that just because a technology is present it doesn't mean something looks good.

 

[BlueLyria]

i thought Remnant 2 was pretty good and well received by a large section of the public

I didn't mean to single out those games as bad or anything, I personally am quite divided on the first Remnant and choose to skip the sequel. They were singled out for being the biggest releases at that particular time.

 

[Sircaw]

I didn't mean to single out those games as bad or anything, I personally am quite divided on the first Remnant and choose to skip the sequel. They were singled out for being the biggest releases at that particular time.

Nothing but a GOD DAMN HATER.

 

[Dabaus]

Phil's Cult.

 

[Darth Vader]

eurogamer portugal 3/5

https://www.eurogamer.pt/starfield-review-analise-promessas-nao-cumpridas-xbox-series-x-pc

not yet added to metacritic

Ooooof.

 

[arvfab]

Man people should chill.

Death threats because of an inflated score

 

[Darth Vader]

Death threats because of an inflated score

 

[arvfab]

it's a gorgeous game

 

[Summer Nightmares]