Starfield | Review & Discussion Thread

[arvfab]

Those particular trees look bad but that's not representative of all the foliage in the game. Here is a vid of foliage looking like most current gen games look. It's a mirage on a moon on Tau Ceti.

You probably haven't played many current gen games if you think these trees look good. And what about the stuttering? Is the performance really this bad or is slowed down on purpose?

 

[Kokoloko]

This is nothing compared to FF16. This place is small.

GAF/ERA had 3-4 threads going with thousands of members and 30-40 pages each. It went on for weeks.

You reap what you sow.

FF16, TLOU2, God of War Ragnarok, Returnal, Horizon 2, GT7 all got so much FUD before it was releasd and then so much hate after.
Spencer and his fans + the ambassador discord created a environment in the last 5 years that is coming back to haunt them.

 

[anonpuffs]

You probably haven't played many current gen games if you think these trees look good. And what about the stuttering? Is the performance really this bad or is slowed down on purpose?

He's just trolling. There's no need to give that dude an earnest response. Just ignore and move on.

 

[Doncortez77]

Phil must be happy with this Game Pass ambassador


Most relatively recent MS or Bethesda games have been GaaS. Make sure Starfild will get several paid DLCs.

Even Phil didnt want to deal with his foolishness

 

[Box]

David Jaffe says it's in his top three games of all time though

Wasnt he fired From sony After Twisted Metal Flopped hard on the ps3?

 

[Nimrota]

Steam user reviews are the industry standard to estimate Steam sales. Depending on different things such as the release year, game size or genre the multiplier changes. To get a quick and easy rough estimate, for a current big SP AAA you have to multiply reviews by 25 (or 30 depending the case). Meaning the estimate for Starfield sales would be around 850K-1M on Steam.

Since on average users take a few days to make their reviews, this method works better waiting at leaset some days after the release, so that estimate is a bit too early, because real sales numbers may be a bit higher.

Starfield CCU all time peak was 269,177 users 15 hours ago, and since release almost every day has a new all time peak. It isn't true that the average player left the game. On average most players start to play a game and quit after a few hours, or buy it and don't play it. That's normal, nothing special about Starfield. Just look at the percentage of trophies in most games.

"Since almost everyday has a new all time peak." What are you talking about? There have been 3 peaks: early access launch, release, a day after release. That's not "everyday" having a new peak. Even then, it is the scale of the growth that matters, not peaking by 1 person. 7% growth from early access to launch, 15% from early access to day 2, I guess if this scales exponentially, in one week they'll have over 1m CCUs on Steam since it'll peak everyday!

But the crux is trying to downplay how bad the numbers are. If it isn't true the average player left the game, why the low growth? Because the low growth from early access could be from one of a few reasons:
1. Lots of EA purchasers refunded, meaning the EA CCUs therefore decreased, then lots of post-launch sales made that shortfall and account for the growth.
2. Nobody refunded, all the Starfield potential buyers purchased in EA period, with only a smaller amount of semi-interested parties, or those affected by word of mouth, purchasing accounting for the growth.
3. 100 million people bought the game, played 15m (all staggered as to not count in CCUs) agreed the game was good and decided to stop playing.

Option 1 seems the most likely considering very split perspective on the game and the Steam support spike. I would give it a maybe 66% chance of exceeding 300k CCUs on the weekend, but that is still barely over Skyrim, barely over Fallout 4. It's a regression. SteamDB estimates like 1-1.5m sold on Steam, based on Phil's CCUs comment, if Steam accounts for 1/4 of the players, that is 4-6m potential players (not sales because of Game Pass) which is half of Fallout 4's 12m day 1. And you know what is funny about the 6m number? It lines up with the estimations I had earlier when criticisng Peter Ovo who said the game had 20m players. 6m, maybe a majority playing for free on Game Pass, is again a regression.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

You guys have so many threads going about Starfield. Why not condense the threads. This forum has turned into "Hate Starfield" forum. Carry on.

We need a bunch of Starfield spoilers hate thread.

 

[Nimrota]

Those particular trees look bad but that's not representative of all the foliage in the game. Here is a vid of foliage looking like most current gen games look. It's a mirage on a moon on Tau Ceti.

The ugly blurry filter is so horrible. I assume this has the in-game filter mod applied BTW.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

I don’t see it discussed here much but I do wonder if the whole forced pronouns thing is a much larger deterrent for people to care about Starfield more than the jank gameplay vids. I’ve seen a lot of commentary about it, none of it positive. I do wonder with all the Jank gameplay videos, non shills able to review the game now, and the forced pronouns stuff, starfield just finds itself too Medicore from a gameplay perspective to inspire much excitement and people that might be curious heard about the pronoun stuff and just say no thanks.

I don’t think I articulated that as well as I could have but hopefully you get my gist.

The doctor disrespect and the bald guy having a meltdown have at least a 40 million view count on Twitter. That’s probably the most viral thing starfield had going for it.

I spoke to a hacker friend who mined the install data and found that there is 114GB of data just in the pronouns folder.

 

[Arc]

I’m excited for Phantom Liberty. A complete rethink could be just what a previously troubled game needed. I just hope it doesn’t lose anything that’s currently fun about the game, and the changes are all for the better. That’s a risk with radically changing a known game.

 

[Deleted member 223]

Lies of P better be good. Plan to drop money on it.

 

[Airbus]

Cyberpunk phantom liberty

 

[Sircaw]

Those particular trees look bad but that's not representative of all the foliage in the game. Here is a vid of foliage looking like most current gen games look. It's a mirage on a moon on Tau Ceti.

Take that goddamn helmet off and breathe the air ffs.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

Only snowflakes care that they are present. I just got the default he him and moved on, doesn't affect my life lol.

I don't want that garbage forced on to me.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

We told them the hype was manufactured. It was nowhere near on the level of Cyberpunk or RDR2. No matter how many fake hype threads they made.

1 million CCU across all platforms when big releases do that on STEAM ALONE with no free version.

No lie I was expecting 3 millions CCU on Day 1 (1m on steam and 2 millions on PC+Xbox+Game Pass). That would be about what Fallout 4 did back in 2015 and you had to buy it full price.

250k on Steam and 750k on GP+Xbox/PC is a disaster.

What was the CCU number for Forza Horizon 5? Halo:I?

 

[Sircaw]

Btw her talking annoys me.

So damn sexist, this is not 1850s m8, women have rights you know, keep your masochistic "make me a sandwich" views out of this forum.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

Wasnt he fired From sony After Twisted Metal Flopped hard on the ps3?

He hasn't done anything good since God of War.. I would love to peak at 1/10th of this.

Still, now he's mostly an old dude trying to get clicks with his foule mouth.

 

[FatKaz]

I would have thought phil would have gone with the total user count.

But perhaps he went with concurrent user count to damage control the stream concurrent user numbers as that's what people are talking about now.

 

[Sircaw]

i have yet to play Cyberpunk, was put totally off it by its original release but from what i have seen in videos, its turned around alot to where it is now a pretty good game.

Will be looking to see how this expansion goes

 

[Darth Vader]

I don't want that garbage forced on to me.

It wasn't? The game has 2 body types, male and female. It picks the common pronouns for each. You literally don't have to interact with the pronoun choice, snowflake.