The Doomers and Gloomers, Sony is dying thread.
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We only have Steam data but it keeps over 20k peak CCU per day there.
Peak is happen again with the big update release (maybe even bigger).
Yall the same folks whining about Sony only focusing on tentpole series? How dare they gamble on a new IP, how dare they give believe in a group of creatives to deliver their own IP? Let me catch one of yall sending strays to horizon i swear
Also, you would make a horrible businessman.
Helldivers 2 servers was a full fledged case of amateur hour.
more people than Concord will ever have, that you can be sure
what title would sell more controllers and consoles... Helldivers 2 or Concord? why even despite 12 million copies sold, being the fastest selling PlayStation title in history, Helldivers 2 has no console bundle, no limited edition controller... no marketing? you can't convince me this is a smart leadership choice, Hermen Hulst saw Concord and FairGame$ and found it amazing to a point of buying these studios, this concerns me 100%, even tho Concord is not bad, it's not even remotely close to the quality we tend to expect from PlayStation Studios titles, specially in character development, they believed in a group of "creatives" who copied Guardians of the Galaxy and Overwatch instead of believing in Arrowhead which did something actually more uniqueYall the same folks whining about Sony only focusing on tentpole series? How dare they gamble on a new IP, how dare they give believe in a group of creatives to deliver their own IP? Let me catch one of yall sending strays to horizon i swear
Also, you would make a horrible businessman.
they had no faith in the game, that's why, game still has no marketing til today... no console bundles... no limited edition controller... no nothing, it honestly surprises me how it still has more than 25k people playing it daily according to Steamdb
yeah, ignore completely the poor leadership choices that'll end up in the closure of the studio who made the game, all the matters is the game, which will probably cease server support after 3 years
Please apply to video game company for work and make them very very rich instead of complaining here via armchair business. It is a controller release, and you are in here acting like you understand the studio relations between sony, firewalk, and arrowhead.
no marketing, no console bundle, no limited edition controller... 12 million units sold, something is not clicking here, i know it hurts for y'all to admit the poor leadership choices playstation is having this gen, which resulted in a lacking 2024 first party wise, but c'mon, let's not be blind here
i'll continue to complain here and confront blind people like you, because i know i'm right at the end of the day, there are no studio relations, Sony owns both IPs, they control what they make with the distribuition of it, not the studios
ok buddyThe only point you have made to me with these weirdly specific posts is that you are clearly autistic. Have a nice one.
What exactly is your point here?
Everybody in the industry wants to have a hit like Helldivers 2 and the less you put money to make it a hit better... it is the dream of every publisher... Sony did it and they are very happy with that and people are all praising them.
In another case if a game is not putting the world on fire and needs help in marketing... why a company should not invest it? I mean it is crazy the ideia you thing Sony should had used the more marketing money on Helldivers 2 (an stabilized franchise that sold itself) than a new IP (that needs a better marketing push).
That is why I don't understand your complain.
Usually companies have a big market budget to new games than already stabilized franchises.... unless that stabilized franchise see a big drop in sales that needs a help with a big marketing push (not Helldrivers 2 case at all).
Why are you comparing Helldivers 2 with Concord at all? They have nothing in common at all.
1st vs 3rd-party studio.
Sequel vs new IP.
FPS vs 3rd-person over the top game.
Maybe you think both similar is that they are $40 Live Service games? BTW That makes the whole only F2P is successful in today market to feel like a made up excuse lol
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Helldivers became more associated with PC than with PlayStation because of Sony themselfs, imagine having the biggest GAAs title of the year AND NOT FUCKING MARKETING IT? the same company who was complaining about losing marketing rights to Call Of Duty last year? you can't be real if you think this is smart, the question you should be having is why they're willing to spend millions and millions on a completely third party game like COD but are not willing to invest millions on a second party game in which they own the IP like Helldivers, that's the point here, 12 million units was an amazing achievement, but Helldivers 2 could've achieve even more with proper investment
AGAIN: SONY OWNS BOTH HELLDIVERS AND CONCORD IPS, it's not about studio ownership
I not just imagine it as it is the dream of every single publisher / developer in the industry.
Creating a big GaaS title is already a hit and miss.
Creating a big GaaS title without having to invest too much in marketing?
Sony is just laughing right now about that.
Why that seems to be bad for you? I don't understand why having a big massive success with a GaaS title without investing in marketing is a bad thing? That is really a good thing to be fair because hows players loved your game... that players are coming to play your game without you need to show it to them... that is the best case scenario when you sell a product.
It is called the product sells itself.
And not invest several $ millions in marketing to sell it.
Not all products needs a big push in marketing... in fact companies aim to not need to invest big in marketing.
Helldivers 2 is a case of study of successful product... something that others will try to replicate.
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because they could've grown their IP EVEN MORE with proper investment, having Helldivers 2 on every PlayStation 5 on the shelves of Wallmart, Target and Best Buy, creating hype and enthusiasm around the IP, having ads everywhere with Helldivers and PS5, specially in North America where the game has a very big playerbase, sell themed Helldivers 2 controllers to both the console and PC audience, the game is now dead in active players due to negligence from PlayStation themselfs
I agree they can sells themed products but that is not marketing.
These are products based in the IP... these products doesn't increase the game sales but instead it is another way to monetize using the IP success.
Now more ads I don't think it should help Helldivers 2 at all.
It will be a money lose with low impact in the sales.
Or better the amount of investment in marketing to increase just a little in sales is not worth of it... in this case it is better to work with the game selling itself.
Now if you have a product with low sales and can thought marketing investment make it sell well the return is better... you can even end having a successful and high profitable product.