The Game Awards: Expansions, DLC, Remakes, Remasters All Eligible for All Categories

[Vertigo]

The way from gates dlc content in the middle of an active run that you can miss is … annoying. Did old hunters on NG+ run.

Wukong should win Goty with Helldivers 2 as runner-up. The rest doesn’t come close tbh. Easily the two biggest releasss of the year (outside of pal world).

 

[ethomaz]

Play more games. You describing every online game that does more major sweeping changes to their game in a year than Zelda did with a copy annd paste rehash over 5 years of development. Then again I notice you have to asterisk the debate with “single-player games.”

Totk could have easily been an expansion and continue Botw and layered all these changes into the game.

Nor is this a slight against it. That’s what most sequels are; looking at Spider-man 1 behind rehashed 2x over already.

Did you ever saw an expansion that takes place in another time period, with tons of news areas, new game mechanics, new weapons, over 250 hours of new content, etc.

Man if you call TotK a DLC then all sequels ever created are just that DLCs lol

 

[ethomaz]

The way from gates dlc content in the middle of an active run that you can miss is … annoying. Did old hunters on NG+ run.

You need to have beaten Vicar Amelia to open the DLC in Old Hunter…

And yes if you start a NG+ you need to play a large portion of the base game to access the DLC.

Sadly it is story/events tied like Elden Ring’s DLC.

Lore wise Old Hunter allow you to replay in a nightmare old hunters battles but it is being replayed on the present and it doesn’t change past events… it is just a nightmare after all created by Kos.

 

[Vertigo]

Did you ever saw an expansion that takes place in another time period, with tons of news areas, new game mechanics, new weapons, over 250 hours of new content, etc.

Man if you call TotK a DLC then all sequels ever created are just that DLCs lol

With modern technology and service aspirations? Yes, many sequels can now easily be done as dlc content if a dev chooses to do such.

Like what are you saying? Each new Destiny expansion is a new area, a new campaign, with new game mechanics if not complete overhauls to gameplay and portions of its engine and systems. Yearly… in perpetuity.

There’s no t much that sequels do now that can’t be accomplished by building on the previous release. I believe the only concerns are time, technology and turnaround time on successive product releases.

Meaning… it may serve the dev and pub better to cook a new game even if much of it is a rehash. The more time players wait between new content the better off you are just making a new game too.

Do you remember the Ragnarok debates? A sequel DOES NOT need a new engine. In fact, it can rehash as much as they want. Or they can flip the script and pull a crysis 2.

It’s an issue of semantics and expansion content should never be discredited when stuff like Witcher 3’s and From’s dlcs embarrass most full product releases.

 

[ethomaz]

With modern technology and service aspirations? Yes, many sequels can now easily be done as dlc content if a dev chooses to do such.

Like what are you saying? Each new Destiny expansion is a new area, a new campaign, with new game mechanics if not complete overhauls to gameplay and portions of its engine and systems. Yearly… in perpetuity.

There’s no t much that sequels do now that can’t be accomplished by building on the previous release. I believe the only concerns are time, technology and turnaround time on successive product releases.

Meaning… it may serve the dev and pub better to cook a new game even if much of it is a rehash. The more time players wait between new content the better off you are just making a new game too.

Do you remember the Ragnarok debates? A sequel DOES NOT need a new engine. In fact, it can rehash as much as they want. Or they can flip the script and pull a crysis 2.

It’s an issue of semantics and expansion content should never be discredited when stuff like Witcher 3’s and From’s dlcs embarrass most full product releases.

Destiny expansions are just a few hours of content before enter in the end gaming loop… like very few hours.

It is a very small part of the whole game.

That is how live service games works…

 

[Vertigo]

Destiny expansions are just a few hours of content before enter in the end gaming loop… like very few hours.

New content and new areas and more major sweeping gameplay overhauls that most games don’t see in sequels year over year. In the 5 years it took to make totk how much was added and rebuilt in d2? Everything?

Most sequels are in fact rehashes and when Totk repurposes the first game entirely and just adds layers to it… they could’ve still made it an expansion and still charged $70. Totk didn’t even touch combat aside from fuse being a shitty new addition to their loot system.

Totk is this weird situation where it just replaces the first game to where I wish I hadn’t played it. It feels like a remake or goty deluxe edition.

 

[ethomaz]

New content and new areas and more major sweeping gameplay overhauls that most games don’t see in sequels year over year.

Most sequels are in fact rehashes and when Totk repurposes the first game entirely and just adds layers to it… they could’ve still made it an expansion and still charged $70.

It is not possible to make TotK DLC without break everything you created for BotW.

If it was a DLC and you installed it you couldn’t back to BotW anymore.

They are separately games… time period, characters, world, story, etc etc etc… it is all new.

They are not parallel events happening in the same world… TotK events are not part of BotW events… BotE events are the past of TotK events.

Again if TotK is a DLC for you then all sequels or prequels since Atari are just that DLCs lol

 

[Vertigo]

It is not possible to make TotK DLC without break everything you created for BotW.

If it was a DLC and you installed it you couldn’t back to BotW anymore.

They are separately games… time period, characters, world, story, etc etc etc… it is all new.

They are not parallel events happening in the same world…

Why do you assume a new story wouldn’t just continue after the events of the first game? Why would it break the original content?

Underworld and skyzone could’ve been built still. They still used the same hyrule map.

The narrative serves the game ideas. None of that matters especially for Zelda.

Memory limitations is also a major reason. It’s the switch. They weren’t gonna make a 200 gig game. Nor is it wise — so once again sometimes it makes more sense for a new boxed sequel for technical reasons.

Ideally today the Mass Effect trilogy can be pulled off within one game.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

You can’t play the DLC before beat Starscourge Radahn and Mohg… it is story tied… it is influenced by the main events lore… you can’t access it before.

And the events happens before you beat the Elden Beast… I know From Software allowed to you to access the DLC after beat the Elden Beast but that is just to not lock the DLC for these that already beat it and choose to continue without start a NG+… it was purely a game design decision and not a lore one.

But the events happens before… it is part of Elden Ring’s lore.

Starscoure Radahn and Mohg are optional bosses for the main game, they are not required for advancing the story. And again, the DLC does not need to take place during the events, it can be after, you can beat the final boss and then enter the DLC. Also it matters if you kill Elden Beast, you will be recognized as Elden Lord in the DLC if you've beaten Elden Beast. So you're talking out your ass again.

Halo Reach is part of Halo CE lore, so let's go back to that one, dude, you really want to keep up with these stupid arguments?

 

[ethomaz]

Starscoure Radahn and Mohg are optional bosses for the main game, they are not required for advancing the story. And again, the DLC does not need to take place during the events, it can be after, you can beat the final boss and then enter the DLC. Also it matters if you kill Elden Beast, you will be recognized as Elden Lord in the DLC if you've beaten Elden Beast. So you're talking out your ass again.

Halo Reach is part of Halo CE lore, so let's go back to that one, dude, you really want to keep up with these stupid arguments?

You are wrong again.

The DLC events story wise happens before you beat the Elden Beast.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Arguing with Jahgamer IQ with common sense never works lol

Anyone who thinks a game with 40-60 hour main quest, followed by 200+ hours of content, follow on story, new levels, new crafting mechanics, new engine, new map is DLC and not a sequel knows nothing about games. Theres nothign else to it.

Nintendo and everyone else calls it a sequel.

Miyzaki the creator of Elden Ring calls Fromsofts DLC this year…DLC.

"I would say the story itself was something that we were hoping to originally put in the base game, but it just didn't work out and didn't fit," Miyazaki said. "As a result, Miquella's entire story arc, which is part of the original lore, is something that the DLC explores quite thoroughly."

Either, game of the year is gonna be Astrobot, Final Fintasy 7Remake or Elden Ring DLC lol. All either PS exclusives, or part owned by Sony. There is no loss for Playstation here, only Astrobot and Final Fantasy not getting what they deserves.

Doesnt matter what some retartd online thinks a game isnt DLC or is DLC. The creators clearly say whats what. Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree is DLC, and TOTK is a Full game and sequel

We really got someone arguing what is and isn't DLC based on... MAIN QUEST LENGTH. My bad, TOTK is one of only a few Zelda games ever made that ISN'T DLC apparently, since it's padded. Then again I guess every MMO's expansions are full new games???

 

[Explosive Zombie]

You are wrong again.

The DLC events story wise happens before you beat the Elden Beast.

And you're basing this on what? Is this from the same source that said the game mirrors the map of the regular game (it doesn't, btw)

 

[RE4-City]

Did you ever saw an expansion that takes place in another time period, with tons of news areas, new game mechanics, new weapons, over 250 hours of new content, etc.

Man if you call TotK a DLC then all sequels ever created are just that DLCs lol

this is what is tripping me up.
Is Spider-Man 2 a DLC?
Is God of War Ragnorok a DLC?
Why is it only tears of the Kingdom being called a DLC al of a sudden?

Developers a literally praises a lot of new mechanics the game gave us:

No One Understands How Nintendo Made ‘The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom’

As The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom sails toward its destiny at 2023 GOTY, there’s one consistent question that keeps coming up. How did Nintendo make this game?

www.forbes.com

 

[Explosive Zombie]

this is what is tripping me up.
Is Spider-Man 2 a DLC?
Is God of War Ragnorok a DLC?
Why is it only tears of the Kingdom being called a DLC al of a sudden?

Developers a literally praises a lot of new mechanics the game gave us:

No One Understands How Nintendo Made ‘The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom’

As The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom sails toward its destiny at 2023 GOTY, there’s one consistent question that keeps coming up. How did Nintendo make this game?

www.forbes.com

You could always ask one of the people actually claiming it's a big DLC if they consider any other games to just be glorified DLCs. It's not all of a sudden either, I was saying it prior to release and turned out to be right when it came out and continued saying it then. I don't have any interest in Spider-Man 2 but I DO have an interest in pointing out how long it took Nintendo to make a game that is just multiple DLCs packaged together as admitted by their own devs. It's lazy trash especially if you didn't want Minecraft shit added to a Zelda game.

 

[Vertigo]

When you have stuff like Iceborne that pulls in thousands of hours for players with new content.

Yeah man, most sequels rehash so much that expansions and dlc content (semantics - same shit) shouldn’t be discredited when often huge overhauls are made that represent bigger leaps you see from game to game in most boxed and iterative sequels.

All games should be in the running. Especially when they’re all hard at work in creating full priced content for players.

Should original titles be valued a bit more? Yes.

Wukong and Helldivers 2 deserve the top spots this year. Expansion content being in the running just goes to show how much western game development collapsed in 2024. Good!

 

[Explosive Zombie]

When you have stuff like Iceborne that pulls in thousands of hours for players with new content.

Yeah man, most sequels rehash so much that expansions and dlc content (semantics - same shit) shouldn’t be discredited when often huge overhauls are made that represent bigger leaps you see from game to game in most boxed and iterative sequels.

All games should be in the running. Especially when they’re all hard at work in creating full priced content for players.

Should original titles be valued a bit more? Yes.

Wukong and Helldivers 2 deserve the top spots this year. Expansion content being in the running just goes to show how much western game development collapsed in 2024.

I was thinking comparing launch No Man's Sky to the No Man's Sky of today is probably far more content than TOTK has that's "new" compared to BOTW.

 

[ethomaz]

And you're basing this on what? Is this from the same source that said the game mirrors the map of the regular game (it doesn't, btw)

From the lore of both Elden Ring and Shadow of the Erdtree… the game tells you lol

 

[Kokoloko]

this is what is tripping me up.
Is Spider-Man 2 a DLC?
Is God of War Ragnorok a DLC?
Why is it only tears of the Kingdom being called a DLC al of a sudden?

Developers a literally praises a lot of new mechanics the game gave us:

No One Understands How Nintendo Made ‘The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom’

As The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom sails toward its destiny at 2023 GOTY, there’s one consistent question that keeps coming up. How did Nintendo make this game?

www.forbes.com

Your trying to find logic where there is none lol.
No1 thinks any of these are DLC apart from certain mental gymanstic experts

 

[ethomaz]

this is what is tripping me up.
Is Spider-Man 2 a DLC?
Is God of War Ragnorok a DLC?
Why is it only tears of the Kingdom being called a DLC al of a sudden?

Developers a literally praises a lot of new mechanics the game gave us:

No One Understands How Nintendo Made ‘The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom’

As The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom sails toward its destiny at 2023 GOTY, there’s one consistent question that keeps coming up. How did Nintendo make this game?

www.forbes.com

Exactly.

I’m one of the strongest Sony fans here but people like to trash Nintendo and their games for no actual reason.

Just to discredit TotK and credit Elden Ring DLC that the guy can even understand the story as GOTY lol

 

[Explosive Zombie]

From the lore of both Elden Ring and Shadow of the Erdtree… the game tells you lol

you are simply egregiously wrong, like I already said the DLC has different dialogue to acknowledge if you have become Elden Lord prior to entering.