Totoki PS President wants to improve margins with releases outside console.

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Andrew House released Sony games on PC, like the other SIE CEOs. The current strategy of bumping their GaaS business and PC ports started with him.

He and Shuhei Yoshida greentlighted and published Sony games that released in PC like Helldivers 1, Guns Up!, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture. They also greenlighted games that have been published by other CEOs like Predator Hunting Grounds or Helldivers 2.
None of those are big PS titles. Im fine with the Gaas business, never complained about it and welcomed Factions 2.
Im complaining about the likes of God of War, Spiderman, Horizon, TLOU, Uncharted going to PC etc.

I also believe Everybody’s gone to Rapture is owned by the developers themselves, the Chinese Room. It was being developed before Sony helped them
 

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Man how the tides have changed. All all thought that this was the week that bad news was coming to Xbox. Instead the PS news that we got a couple of hours ago, made ya’ll lose ya’ll shit. LMAO
 
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I think Gran Turismo would benefit greatly from pc release. Dealing with car licenses, live service demands from players, it’s surely expensive and has long dev times. It’s also best in class and will dominate.
Can't wait to see how Polyphony will handle a PC port and how long it would take.

To me it seems obvious that of all the Sony games it would be the one to make the most money on PC, I'm impressed they have resisted the temptation so far (or is simply taking a long time to port it most likely).
 
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We've got a real dopey idiot here

First party is not the revenue maker, it never will be. It is the keys to getting userbase momentum and driving massive amounts of revenue through third party royalties

He is trying to tell us the value to a house by making extra copies of the keys and giving the keys fancy engravings while the house itself is catching fire

If he doesn't get that much he needs to be out the door ASAP

Playstation saved Sony and the morons from Japan's old school who ruin everything they touch still consider it some sort of anchor on the business
 

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People think it's all jim ryans fault.

You will understand the problem is much higher up and deeply rooted.
Your probably right.
I still put some responsibility on Hermen for studio output
 

Nhomnhom

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I literally spoke to a old Destiny buddy today, I asked him if he’s got a PS5.
He said no, no point he’s gonna play the games on PC and got a PC for game developing, no need for a PS5 ( we always spoke about making an indie game )

So 3 friends, plus my brother who were all hardcore PS gamers have migrated to PC… Compared to the new teens who come and by 1-2 games a year like GTA or Fifa, thats money lost.
I will join them as soon as PS does day 1 releases on PC.

These heads see numbers but dont think long term
How common it is for a kid or college student these days to own a Notebook? The igpu on your average notebook is getting pretty good these days, Sony should be glad Apples sucks at supporting games and that Nvidia/Intel/AMD never cared too much about making eGPU an viable option.

Given how little proper AAA games taking advantage of PS5 hardware are, the office notebook is going to be able to run the bulk of most popular games, the 780m probably already beats the Series S.
 

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Meh day and date on PC is literally kill playstation like xbox. Let them do it and see how turns out
Exactly. I remember when it happened and the comments on the other forum. “Who cares I can play your games on PC”
 

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Meh day and date on PC is literally kill playstation like xbox. Let them do it and see how turns out
Helldivers 2 is a sensation BECAUSE OF PC. Even if it sold twice as much on PS5 (unlikely), the headlines about its success are derived from Steam live numbers.
 

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Meh day and date on PC is literally kill playstation like xbox. Let them do it and see how turns out
It might not be actually do to the fact that even though most households have pcs they don't all have have them built to run high quality games especially with the ever increasing spec requirements nowadays. It's still simpler and much cheaper to manage just a console.
 
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Helldivers 2 is a sensation BECAUSE OF PC. Even if it sold twice as much on PS5 (unlikely), the headlines about its success are derived from Steam live numbers.
It would have been a success regardless.. The preorder numbers were #1 on PSN in US and UK. Not against gaas going to PC day one bcus if you look at my past post I wanted it to to keep the online alive in perpetuity but just saying.
 

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We've got a real dopey idiot here

First party is not the revenue maker, it never will be. It is the keys to getting userbase momentum and driving massive amounts of revenue through third party royalties

He is trying to tell us the value to a house by making extra copies of the keys and giving the keys fancy engravings while the house itself is catching fire

If he doesn't get that much he needs to be out the door ASAP

Playstation saved Sony and the morons from Japan's old school who ruin everything they touch still consider it some sort of anchor on the business
There’s someone on here that said that the Japanese execs need to take PS back. Lol
 
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It would have been a success regardless.. The preorder numbers were #1 on PSN in US and UK. Not against gaas going to PC day one bcus if you look at my past post I wanted it to to keep the online alive in perpetuity but just saying.
I didn't say it wouldn't be successful on PS5. I said it's a sensation because of PC. If there was no PC version and PS5 still made up 100% of those sales, we wouldn't know it, and it wouldn't be driving the enthusiast news cycle for weeks.
 

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It might not be actually do to the fact that even though most households have pcs they don't all have have them built to run high quality games especially with the ever increasing spec requirements nowadays. It's still simpler and much cheaper to manage just a console.
Majority of pc players have pc. People will skip playstation instead of waiting for pc release. Helldivers Is an example were games like gow and others didn't manage to get the same players. Just watch and see the decline of pc hardware. Xbox literally manage to sell less than xbone which is literally better hardware
 
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Helldivers 2 is a sensation BECAUSE OF PC. Even if it sold twice as much on PS5 (unlikely), the headlines about its success are derived from Steam live numbers.
It's not. Helldivers is a a great game regardless. People with pc and ps literally skip playstation when there is no reason to get on ps
 
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We've got a real dopey idiot here

First party is not the revenue maker, it never will be. It is the keys to getting userbase momentum and driving massive amounts of revenue through third party royalties

He is trying to tell us the value to a house by making extra copies of the keys and giving the keys fancy engravings while the house itself is catching fire

If he doesn't get that much he needs to be out the door ASAP

Playstation saved Sony and the morons from Japan's old school who ruin everything they touch still consider it some sort of anchor on the business
What's worse is he will probably put in charge some one who agrees with him.

They aren't willing to address issues to improve the console business, but want to put a band aid over it by thinking going more multiplat is going to solve their issues. When in reality that strategy will further damage the console business 🙃
 

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We've got a real dopey idiot here

First party is not the revenue maker, it never will be. It is the keys to getting userbase momentum and driving massive amounts of revenue through third party royalties

He is trying to tell us the value to a house by making extra copies of the keys and giving the keys fancy engravings while the house itself is catching fire

If he doesn't get that much he needs to be out the door ASAP

Playstation saved Sony and the morons from Japan's old school who ruin everything they touch still consider it some sort of anchor on the business
Meanwhile the likes of Sony Pictures and Sony Music are treated as their crown jewels.
 
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