What really is first party nowadays? Definition of first/second/third party games.
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That does t change anything at all.I know I'm talking to a thicko
You continue being wrong no matter what you believe I’m…
It does lol
You are wrong… a published game by Sony can indeed be 3rd-party.
And that has nothing to do with what you think about me.
Of course we don't know the details of the deal, and I know that Shift-Up mentioned the "2nd party agreement" with Sony, but it's also the first time they entered such an agreement, therefore it's very possible it was just bad wording. On the other hand we have two things pointing that the IP is Shift-Up's and therefore the game being 3rd party:
STELLAR BLADE Trademark Application of SHIFT UP Corporation - Serial Number 79362013 :: Justia Trademarks
Computer programs for pre-recorded games; computer game software, recorded; downloadable game software; downloadable simulation software for use with digital computers; electronic publications, downloadable; downloadable computer game programs; video game cartridges; computer game software for...
trademarks.justia.com
And:
While if we look at Helldivers 2 we have:
And:
HELLDIVERS Trademark of SONY INTERACTIVE ENTERTAINMENT LLC - Registration Number 4756623 - Serial Number 86042209 :: Justia Trademarks
Computer game software; Video game software
trademarks.justia.com
You are right at time of these games Psygnosis were already part of Sony.
I’m coming with the truth.If you think this makes sense no wonder you're coming out with so much nonsense
3rd-party games published by Sony doesn’t make them first-party lol
Nope.
Like I said the truth is there is games published by Sony that are 3rd-parry.
You are just creating wrong narratives.
They bullshit that being published by Sony makes them first-party is suck nonsense that is very dumb to see somebody claiming it lol
Another nonsensical post. "Suck nonsense" - people will lose braincells reading this shite.
Have you been drinking heavily, or maybe this is the norm. Hard to tell
Again you are wrong…Another nonsensical post. "Suck nonsense" - people will lose braincells reading this shite.
Have you been drinking heavily, or maybe this is the norm. Hard to tell
Like I said the truth is there are games published by Sony that are 3rd-parry.
You come here with these weird and fake takes lol
You saying anything about me has zero weight in the reality.
I doubt it was bad wording since it's official press release but also I did not disagree about IP ownership, just that there is a broad grey area with variables that are not one and the same. That's why I gave that Spiderman example.
He's talking about first/second/third party studios, which is a completely different thing and a misnomer in my opinion.
A first party game is a game that is published from an entity on the platform belonging to that same entity. That's all there is to it.
The whole "first party" monicker got completely distorted from people who wanted to distinguish games made by a platform owner studio or not, and then "second party" term got invented to make the distinction.
Studio ownership has nothing to do with it.
IP ownership has nothing to do with it.
Whether Sony devs helped the studio make the game or not, is completely irrelevant.
For example :
Bloodborne is a first party game on PS4/PS5. Why? Because SIE publishes the game on PSN.
SIE publisher = PSN storefront --> First party game
If the game ever gets ported to Steam, the game would be a third party game from the perspective of Steam.
SIE publisher =/= Steam storefront --> Third party game
Think about it, how does it make sense for a Steam player to buy a SIE published game on Steam and call it a "first party" game? It doesn't make sense, because the only first party games on Steam are the Valve published ones. You can say it is a "Sony made" game, but not that it is a first party game.
Talking about who owns the studio and Sony's involvement in the development and who owns the IP are all different subjects that has nothing to do with what a first or third party game is.
If you go to Costco, and you buy a bag of Kirkland branded almonds, that is a "first party" product. If Costco sold Kirkland products at Walmart, from Walmart's point of view, it is a "third party" product. If Walmart sold Great Value branded products at Costco, that would be a "third party" product from Costco's point of view, but the same product sold in a Walmart is a "first party" product.
Costco doesn't have to own the farm from which the almonds were made, they don't need to have farmers be Costco employees, they don't need to have patents for the production of almonds, they just need to distribute it in their store. That's it.
Stellar Blade is a first party game on PSN
Rise of the Ronin is a first party game on PSN
Astro Bot is a first party game on PSN
FF7 Rebirth is a third party game on PSN
Until Dawn Remake is a first party game on PSN, but a third party game on Steam
Schrödinger's game: you only know if a game is a Playstation 1st party title, once you look at the platform it's running on. Ridiculous.
Might make up other terms to determine it. 1st party on Mondays, Wednesday and Fridays. If it's full-moon, also on a Sunday, otherwise it depends on what you ate the day before.
It's just games dude.
But in general if you're correct, let being right be your weapon of choice.
And keep it fun, reading a forum isn't fun like this.
Not speaking of one person, just in general.