Jim Ryan's 30 years at PlayStation has officially ended. Says PS5 "on track" to be Sony’s most successful & PS2 sold 160 million (PS official podcast)

Vertigo

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And? Why does it matter? Nintendo has been the one able to sell the most console for a while now.


Wrong. Sony has whipped their ass for home consoles for the last 30 years. It’s why they quit making them and consolidated their business to handheld.

Switch isn’t a home console. End of story.
 

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Wrong. Sony has whipped their ass for home consoles for the last 30 years. It’s why they quit making them and consolidated their business to handheld.

Switch isn’t a home console. End of story.
Seems like you can't face the reality that Nintendo sells more consoles than Sony, so you need to find a way to frame it so you can claim Sony is on top when it comes to console sales.
 
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Seems like you can't face the reality that Nintendo sells more consoles than Sony.


The reality is that handhelds are not home consoles. Sorry if I don’t subscribe to the same stupidity you do.

Parents will buy a switch for each kid in the house. There is no external hardware needed. No TV. They are completely different devices with different demographics.

Saying otherwise is dumb and a lie.
 

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Seems like you can't face the reality that Nintendo sells more consoles than Sony, so you need to find a way to frame it so you can claim Sony is on top when it comes to console sales.
Sony is selling more consoles between those two, because Sony has one.
 
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The reality is that handhelds are not home consoles. Sorry if I don’t subscribe to the same stupidity you do.

Parents will buy a switch for each kid in the house. There is no external hardware needed. No TV. They are completely different devices with different demographics.

Saying otherwise is dumb and a lie.
Sony is selling more consoles between those two, because Sony has one.
So a portable console is not a console? :ROFLMAO:

Pure copium, instead of holding Sony accountable for their poor decision you guys chose to make up excuses for them. Pretty much just the blue version of Xbots.
 
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So a portable console is not a console? :ROFLMAO:

Pure copium, instead of holding Sony accountable for their poor decision you guys chose to make up excuses for them. Pretty much just the blue version of Xbots.
one is handheld console and one is home console, if you want to be overly pedantic, and if we need to repeat ourselves 100 times while communicating the same point. and both are not in the same category the same as mobile is not in the same category.
 
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The reality is that handhelds are not home consoles. Sorry if I don’t subscribe to the same stupidity you do.

Parents will buy a switch for each kid in the house. There is no external hardware needed. No TV. They are completely different devices with different demographics.

Saying otherwise is dumb and a lie.
Of course it's a handheld console, its hardware is 100% from mobile technology.

And the Switch Lite proves it 1000%.


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Either way Switch sales are insane but if we are categorizing I'd categorize it as a handheld as well. That has helped them sell alot more than if it was a traditional console.
 

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Nintendo’s biggest ever is Wii/Ds era and in with that in mind… has Switch matched up against DS yet?

Long time fans recognize the consolidation of their business as a course correction. Nintendo’s devs all now develop to a standard where back when Intelligent Systems was left hanging behind its peers struggling to make 3d games.

Nintendo fans however refuse to accept the truth
 

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Seems like you can't face the reality that Nintendo sells more consoles than Sony, so you need to find a way to frame it so you can claim Sony is on top when it comes to console sales.
It's not as simple as that. If you take a closer look, you'll see that :
  • Sony remains the master of home consoles.
  • Nintendo is still king on handheld consoles.
And Sony still has the best sales average despite having only 7 consoles and only entering the market in 1994.

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Nintendo :
  1. Color TV-Game - 1977 HC
  2. Game & Watch - 1980 HD
  3. Famicom - 1983 HC
  4. GameBoy - 1989 HD
  5. Super Famciom - 1990 HC
  6. Nintendo 64 - 1996 HC
  7. GameBoy Color - 1998 HD
  8. GameBoy Advance - 2001 HD
  9. GameCube - 2001 HC
  10. Nintendo DS - 2004 HD
  11. Wii - 2006 HC
  12. Nintendo 3DS - 2011 HD
  13. Wii U - 2012 HC
  14. Nintendo Switch - 2017 HD
SONY :
  1. PlayStation - 1994 HC
  2. PlayStation 2 - 2000 HC
  3. PlayStation Portable - 2004 HD
  4. PlayStation 3 - 2006 HC
  5. PlayStation Vita - 2011 HD
  6. PlayStation 4 - 2013 HC
  7. PlayStation 5 - 2020 HC
Microsoft :
  1. Xbox - 2001 HC
  2. Xbox 360 - 2005 HC
  3. Xbox One - 2013 HC
  4. Xbox Series X/S - 2020 HC
SEGA :
  1. SG-1000 - 1983 HC
  2. Master System - 1985 HC
  3. Mega Drive - 1988 HC
  4. Game Gear - 1990 HD
  5. Satrun - 1994 HC
  6. Nomad - 1995 HD
  7. Dreamcast - 1998 HC
Atari :
  1. Atari Pong - 1972 HC
  2. Atari 2600 - 1977 HC
  3. Atari 5200 - 1982 HC
  4. Atari 7800 - 1986 HC
  5. Atari XEGS - 1987 HC
  6. Atari Lynx - 1989 HD
  7. Atari Jaguar - 1993 HC
 
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It's not as simple as that. If you take a closer look, you'll see that :
  • Sony remains the master of home consoles.
  • Nintendo is still king on handheld consoles.
And Sony still has the best sales average despite having only 7 consoles and only entering the market in 1994.


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Nice info.
 
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Not sure if you are trolling or you lack basic comprehension skills?

Top selling DS Games,

1.New Super Mario Bros. (30.80)

2.Nintendogs (all versions) (23.96)

3.Mario Kart DS (23.60)

4.Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! (19.01)

5.Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (17.67)

6.Pokémon Black and White (15.64)

7.Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day! (14.88)

8.Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver (12.72)

9.Animal Crossing: Wild World (11.75)

10.Super Mario 64 DS (11.06)

I wasn't aware the DS only had 10 games?

PS2 total software sales are around 1.5 billion give or take and the DS total is around 950 million...

Even the PS3 sold more software than the DS.
 

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Switch is a console, its a hybrid console. But the Switch lite is a handheld, so I think it's fair to subtract the ~20m Switch Lite's from the Switch's overall count. So it's not remotely close to the PS2.
 
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Switch is a console, its a hybrid console. But the Switch lite is a handheld, so I think it's fair to subtract the ~20m Switch Lite's from the Switch's overall count. So it's not remotely close to the PS2.
  • NSW : 92.98M
  • NSW Lite : 23.20M
  • NSW OLED : 23.18M

Total (Handheld) : 139.36M
Total (Hybrid) : 116.16M
 
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  • NSW : 92.98M
  • NSW Lite : 23.20M
  • NSW OLED : 23.18M

Total (Handheld) : 139.36M
Total (Hybrid) : 116.16M
yep not even close. Nintendo fanboys can argue that the Switch is a console, but no one can argue that the Switch Lite is, it's a pure handheld. So either way, they look silly. Switch as a console is barely doing better than the PS4.