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Ampere Analysis / Console Sales: PS5 (21.7 million), Xbox Series X|S (13.8 million)
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Went to a Walmart today to do some shopping. No ps5s to be found, but did see about 3 or 4 series s and x each there. Guess if you want the latter they've become relatively easy to find ( in comparison to the ps5). If I hadn't already got a ps5 and Starfield hadn't been delayed, might have been tempted to get it.
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@DynamiteCop and @Bernd Lauert - Present evidence for your claims, talk to your peers with respect ("clown game" remarks, etc..) and argue gracefully - OR leave the thread. We are tired of having to tell you guys how to argue in good faith.
Who cares anymore, point being this is all wrong. Aaron retweeted this back in April which undoubtedly means Ampere is wrong and VGChartz is actually accurate.
13.87 million in APRIL, so that 16.4 million figure is the actual representation of the Series consoles.
That five year backlog you have must be full of classics. Ooh let's see what's next, Powerwash Simulator and Hot Wheels, with Deathloop to comeI see you're working towards your second permaban. Keep up the good work
Yes because we know from the data that there are lot of people subbing to GamePass to play on their tablets and phones, not to mention PC GamePass is a roaring success. Console sales don't really matter to MS
Never thought I'd live to see VGChartz heralded as the most accurate source for tracking sales figures.
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The most funny think it to check VGC in some weeks to see the numbers being ajustes to match the data Ampere showed.
Well we're in weird times but it is what it is.
Fake data has no place here even if it makes you happy lol
Fake data lmao? It's an employee confirmation. Don't be sour.
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@VFX_Veteran / mods aren't demanding source for this data because there is no source. They are asking for your claim that Xbox 360 had sold 15 million+ units by this time frame.
I respectfully corrected you, and you called everyone a clown instead and ran away from the thread. Here are the receipts.
And when mods asked you to present the source, you called them a Nazi. (What is wrong with you?!)
This doesn't invalidate a senior employee citing their numbers this time around as accurate though. Cute logical fallacy though.Greenburger
I'm starting to think that maybe the VGChartz, Zhuge, Welfare etc. numbers and even Nadella's statement may've been in reference to sold-in. Sold-in only takes into account what the retailers themselves buy in terms of stock, but not what eventually gets sold to the customer. That would be sold-through, which are the numbers Sony and Nintendo report.
Maybe the MS-related ones switch back and forth between reporting (or well, suggesting since hard numbers are rarely given) sold-in and sold-through, but I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers they site are sold-in because even with the surge of Series X units earlier in the year (which did contribute to higher sales in NA during that period), the majority of Series systems out are the S model with has noticeably less demand than the X and I don't see how that notion can be refuted. There's probably a reason MS are doing the free game promotional deal with Series S and not Series X, for example, in NA.
...In the middle of August...
But that's just me taking a guess. Anyway, time to catch up on the rest of the thread.
He got the Gamepass number from Microsoft. We're talking about XBLG. And no, compared to your "0" number, he was not overestimating.
I think so, yes. Other analysts have the number quite a bit higher. And before you try for another desperate gotcha, I'm not talking about VGChartz
Hope you're not talking about Zhuge then, that dude's made some embarrassing, practically fanboy-esque post(s) in light of the announced PS5 price increase on Twitter.
And Welfare AFAIK doesn't have sales industry connections or anywhere near low-level data access the likes of Piers or Ampere would (Zhuge either for that matter, tho they're in-between a Welfare and Piers/Ampere in that regard).
Only thing I can hold against Ampere were the GamePass numbers, mainly because they had two sets of data with two different graphs of measure but the article itself didn't differentiate between the two (and if anything, made the GamePass percentages look better. In fact I think the recent quote from Sony on GamePass's percentage of the subscriptions market is from that Ampere article xD).
Here you go. Another source. @Bernd Lauert @DynamiteCop . Look at the top. "Based on official financial reports."
I'll wait for the apology@DynamiteCop Also, now you should either accept your mistake or present your source for that 15 million number you threw with no data to backup.
Dang where'd you find this? I know it's Wikipedia but I was not able to find these official numbers.
This makes the Piers/Ampere figures line up very strongly then in terms of the actual numbers. Which aren't bad, IMHO; it is still tracking ahead of 360. However it should hopefully bring the more ridiculous claims of it "vastly" outpacing 360 down to earth; never saw that as realistic considering the difference in AAA software output between 360 and Series for the first two or so years as things are right now.
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I don't have a good memory, so excuse me if I'm wrong. But I think the article that you're referring to was from a third-party "gaming news" website. The writer took two different sets of data (one of which came from Ampere) and made weird assumptions that inflated Gamepass's revenue numbers and market share.
I don't it was Ampere fault (assuming I'm remembering things correctly).
What a clown, this is why Xbox execs are an embarrassment.Greenburger
Then add spencer who instead of getting his studios to make good games, he crys about fanboys while interacting with them and puffing his chest out with statements about the what is good for the industry when he has delivered fuck all decent games since taking over.
Say what you say about jimbo and his decisions, but that dude doesn't need to do any of this weak shit.
Vivid imagination you have there, read the tweet you posted, it validates nothing.
Cute try but..
The fact that he posted it validates it lmao. We're not having a debate here.Vivid imagination you have there, read the tweet you posted, it validates nothing.
Cute try but..